Overstayer Stereo Compressor

[sdrr00]

Originally Posted by SWAN808

Here you go

I actually prefer the FET on this example-its thicker and more coloured...here I ran the FET pretty heavy peaking around -6db and you can hear me switch in the 'DIRT' button after 4 bars I think...unfortunately I didnt account for the increase in peak level which got slightly clipped on the A/D but I think its no huge problem for the example...

For the VCA I chose medium short attack, fast auto release (non-auto release is 'very' fast on the VCA and this example had too much ambience to have a very fast release)...anyways - you can hear as I start to tweak the behaviour knob and the compression gets more aggressive. I go full range then back to start...and then tweak the attack so its very short...hence the level goes low due to more compression...anyways - also sounds good - but cleaner.

agreed, FEM shines even on an un-EQ'ed raw sample like this. the ambiance defintely kills the beat but you notice the character through it anyways, but these clips definetely helped me decide which one to get! you have the release-mod version, ya? thanks again for the clips!

[guze]

Yeahh, the FET gives more "attitude" to drums than the VCA, but they are different "animals" with different purposes.

I love to have the FET with fast attack and the VCA with slow attack and the eq after it. I'll post some samples when i have some more time.


I've put these also in the VCA page , but no comments yet, i'll leave them here also. Later i will bring different samples also

i've made these samples for showing a little bit what it can do.
I'm loving it , it's so so versatile.
It can handle huge amounts of compression.
The behavior makes it like a tone shaper.

I'll speak more later, hope you enjoy the samples. This is from a music i'm making, it's not a master, but it can show a little about the potential of the VCA.

basicdrums_flat.wav - basicdrums_flat.wav
basicdrums_lowratio_slowatt.wav - basicdrums_lowratio_slowatt.wav
basicdrums_lowratio_slowatt_eq.wav - basicdrums_lowratio_slowatt_eq.wav
basicdrums_limit_slowatt_blend_eq.wav - basicdrums_limit_slowatt_blend_eq.wav
basicdrums_lowratio_fastatt.wav - basicdrums_lowratio_fastatt.wav
basicdrums_lowratio_fastatt_eq.wav - basicdrums_lowratio_fastatt_eq.wav
basicdrums_behavior_blend_eq.wav - basicdrums_lowratio_fastatt_behavior_blend_eq.wav
fulldrums_flat.wav - fulldrums_flat.wav
fulldrums_lowratio_slowatt.wav - fulldrums_lowratio_slowatt.wav
fulldrums_slowatt_limit_behavior_blend_eq.wav - fulldrums_slowatt_limit_behavior_blend_eq.wav
fulldrums_lowratio_fastatt.wav - fulldrums_lowratio_fastatt.wav
fulldrums_lowratio_fastatt_eq.wav - fulldrums_lowratio_fastatt_eq.wav
fulldrums_lowratio_fastatt_behavior_blend_eq.wav - fulldrums_lowratio_fastatt_behavior_blend_eq.wav
fulldrums_lowratio_fastatt_behavior_blend_eq.wav - fulldrums_lowratio_fastatt_behavior_blend_eq.wav

leads_flat.wav - leads_flat.wav
leads_lowratio_fastatt.wav - leads_lowratio_fastatt.wav
leads_lowratio_slowatt.wav - leads_lowratio_slowatt.wav
leads_medratio_fastatt_behavior_blend_eq.wav - leads_medratio_fastatt_behavior_blend_eq.wav
leads_slowatt_medratio_behavior_blend_eq.wav - leads_slowatt_medratio_behavior_blend_eq.wav

mixbasic_1db_slowatt.wav - mixbasic_1db_slowatt.wav
mixbasic_1db_slowatt_eq.wav - mixbasic_1db_slowatt_eq.wav
mixbasic_limit_5db_fastatt_behavior_blend_eq.wav - mixbasic_limit_5db_fastatt_behavior_blend_eq.wav
mixfull_1db_slowatt.wav - mixfull_1db_slowatt.wav
mixfull_1db_slowatt_eq.wav - mixfull_1db_slowatt_eq.wav
mixfull_flat.wav - mixfull_flat.wav
mixfull_limit_4db_behavior_blend_eq.wav - mixfull_limit_4db_behavior_blend_eq.wav

01-BASS_flat.wav - 01-BASS_flat.wav
basscomp.wav - basscomp_eq.wav

Review VCA.rar - all files minus the bass

[SWAN808]

Originally Posted by guze

I've put these also in the VCA page , but no comments yet, i'll leave them here also. Later i will bring different samples also

thanks for these examples dude - if you export them to 320 mp3 and then upload them using the attachment form on the Gearslutz post - it will be much more easy for people to play and demo them via the GS post...I suspect thats why no comments...

[guze]

Thanks, i didn't knew how to do it

[delongej26]

Thanks for the samples. I've been thinking about checking out the new VCA comp. I love the FET comp. It is a no brainer for drum buss with the blend knob. And the dirt switch can really add some awesome distortion too.

[dieauslander0]

does anyone have both the standard FET and the release mod version? is there any difference in the sound? or is the release mod just the standard version plus more? im looking to use this comp mainly for drums and want to know if the release mod will help me any or if just to go with the standard

[SWAN808]

Originally Posted by dieauslander0

does anyone have both the standard FET and the release mod version? is there any difference in the sound? or is the release mod just the standard version plus more? im looking to use this comp mainly for drums and want to know if the release mod will help me any or if just to go with the standard

Ive not tried the standard but for drums it helps to have a release knob to adjust how quick it bites the transient...can make a difference between punchy drum hits...for just bass, keys and channel compression standard would be ok IMO...but for bus work and drums Id go with release Mod version.

[Deckdaddy]

YES!

I'm most DEF gonna get this half rack mini-VCA and have it next to the FET. I bet they'll be friends. I've been wanting to play with that behavior knob, but the stereo VCA bus comp was a little to big and too much $ at the moment. I guess I get the time to save up some dough before it's available for purchase.

[sdrr00]

Originally Posted by Deckdaddy

YES!

I'm most DEF gonna get this half rack mini-VCA and have it next to the FET. I bet they'll be friends. I've been wanting to play with that behavior knob, but the stereo VCA bus comp was a little to big and too much $ at the moment. I guess I get the time to save up some dough before it's available for purchase.

ya, just as i was about to order the FET, they come out with a VCA in my price range... **** it ill get both...

[Deckdaddy]

It's put up on the page now aswell, with info, pricing ($549) and an extra low preorder price ($499) Will begin to ship within 2-3 weeks! I'm saving up for an iMac, but I might have to cop this $50 cheaper while I can.

http://overstayer.squarespace.com/st...ics-processor/

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[tylergarcia]

What do you guys think would be better suited towards the mix bus, the FET or VCA model?

[rhythminmind]

Well VCA's are more commonly used on a full mix then FET's
VCA's are typically cleaner.

[guze]

VCA for the mix bus

[Deckdaddy]

I use both. I think the FET is soo good sounding (phat and warm to use no-no words, tho' a little mid-forward) and it doesn't kill the lows like the VCA does (don't like the sound of hi-pass filter either) but I like what the VCA does too (I have the half rack one) so I use 'em both! FET first then VCA in low 2:1.

PLEASE note that I'm a hobbyist doing mainly Hip Hop and that I'm more into character and phatness rather than super clean stuff, but I think the FET has something to offer if you care for that type of sound (as a mix buss comp colors the whole ... mix! Duh...)

The FET one sounds more round and old school to me when it just cuddles with the peaks (only green LED flashing) and the VCA is glue and tight IMO, and a bit more 80's plus modern sounding. Compressed a lot is modern sounding in a way, ain't it? ...

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[Charlez]

Sorry if this is a dumb question (noob here) Can you use only one of the channels of the Overstayer on a Mono source?

[guze]

yes, you can. The meters will only read the left side, if i'm not mistaken.
but it's possible, no problem

[Charlez]

Great, thanks for the reply!

[hereticskeptic]

Originally Posted by SWAN808

Here you go

I actually prefer the FET on this example-its thicker and more coloured...here I ran the FET pretty heavy peaking around -6db and you can hear me switch in the 'DIRT' button after 4 bars I think...unfortunately I didnt account for the increase in peak level which got slightly clipped on the A/D but I think its no huge problem for the example...

For the VCA I chose medium short attack, fast auto release (non-auto release is 'very' fast on the VCA and this example had too much ambience to have a very fast release)...anyways - you can hear as I start to tweak the behaviour knob and the compression gets more aggressive. I go full range then back to start...and then tweak the attack so its very short...hence the level goes low due to more compression...anyways - also sounds good - but cleaner.

Yeeeeaaaaaah!!!! Two EXCELLENT examples of what these two OS compressors do. Word UP! Both it is!! I hate to say it, but this may mean "goodbye DBX units." WOWSERS!

[SWAN808]

there are a few discount FET compressors with release mod available...

Overstayer Recording Equipment - Home

[audiomichael]

Just got my FET comp. It's ridiculous!!! I like it's tone when it's not even compressing. But, it's compression is very very cool. I threw up a video so you can hear. After I did this on the drums, I tried it on guitars and vocals too. I think I'm gonna make it my guitar bus compressor, just for it's tone. Dunno... It crushes drums n' stuff SO nicely!!!

I know I'm a little late to this party, but congrats Jeff on this killer box.

[guze]

nice

[TimS]

Originally Posted by audiomichael

Just got my FET comp. It's ridiculous!!! I like it's tone when it's not even compressing. But, it's compression is very very cool. I threw up a video so you can hear. After I did this on the drums, I tried it on guitars and vocals too. I think I'm gonna make it my guitar bus compressor, just for it's tone. Dunno... It crushes drums n' stuff SO nicely!!!

I know I'm a little late to this party, but congrats Jeff on this killer box.

Thanks for the video! That's the best demonstration of the FET comp that I've seen/heard so far.

If it wouldn't be too much trouble, is there any chance you could make another video with the comp on some other sources (particularly vocals and bass)? I'm sure I wouldn't be the only person who would really appreciate it.

[AKCSTUDIO]

Sounds great!

[OttoPilot]

Have these things made it over to Europe at all?

[Cody]

I kept reading "overstayer" in this forum, and decided to finally see what the big deal was. After all the examples I've heard here, I will be buying the fet and the half rack vca. What a cool company... love what I'm hearing.

[gutr2]

Anybody know the attack range in ms?

[Deckdaddy]

Earlier in this thread, post #89

Originally Posted by overstayer

Though I do like to geek out on the technical aspects, most of the tweaking was done by ear with real source material. Also this being a feedback design you can't really just plug in the numbers for the RC time constants and come up with the actual times, and even if you could the numbers aren't necessarily meaningful.

I will cautiously post some rough figures to give an idea of the timing, but you really just have to hear it! The dials and meter are intentionally arbitrary so you can turn the knobs until it sounds good and not worry about a setting being wrong.

On the Original version:

Attack range is <1ms to 60ms
Release range is 10ms to 100ms

A/Rx10 engaged:
Attack range is <1ms to 600ms
Release range is 75ms to ~1s

and on the Variable Release mod version:

Attack range is <1ms to 60ms
Release range is 5ms to 125ms

A/Rx10 engaged:
Attack range is <1ms to ~1s
Release range is 60ms + ~2s scalable downward to 6ms + 10ms

[gutr2]

Excellent - thank you!

[Rob Coates]

Overestayer SDP on eBay right now.

[prontold]

Wondering if anybody has found any uses they like for the alt release button? I'm always tempted to mess around with it, but I'm never quite sure what difference it makes to my ears.