TiK ToK by Ke$ha

[Keire]

Originally Posted by Kenny Gioia

Let's kill her!!!!

Id rather go after the money guys behind her.

No girl talk about brushing her teeth with jack would ever choreograph a dance.

This is a contrived, market researched, professionally constructed product as far as I can tell. There is no doubt that the brand identity created has consistency and uniformity. But the substance, or lack their of has nothing to do with anything I'm interested in. Tik TOk is pretty much an anthem for being completely useless and proud.

I would love to hear that her whole life she was sitting in her room practicing so that one day she would be able to share with the world

"in't got a care in world, but got plenty of beer
Ain't got no money in my pocket, but I'm already here
And now, the dudes are lining up cause they hear we got swagger
But we kick em to the curb unless they look like Mick Jagger

I'm talking about everybody getting crunk, crunk
Boys tryin' to touch my junk, junk
Gonna smack him if he getting too drunk, drunk

Now, now, we go until they kick us out, out
Or the police shut us down, down
Police shut us down, down
Po-po shut us"

[MikeyMike]

Originally Posted by Keire

Id rather go after the money guys behind her.

No girl talk about brushing her teeth with jack would ever choreograph a dance.

This is a contrived, market researched, professionally constructed product as far as I can tell. There is no doubt that the brand identity created has consistency and uniformity. But the substance, or lack their of has nothing to do with anything I'm interested in. Tik TOk is pretty much an anthem for being completely useless and proud.

I would love to hear that her whole life she was sitting in her room practicing so that one day she would be able to share with the world

"in't got a care in world, but got plenty of beer
Ain't got no money in my pocket, but I'm already here
And now, the dudes are lining up cause they hear we got swagger
But we kick em to the curb unless they look like Mick Jagger

I'm talking about everybody getting crunk, crunk
Boys tryin' to touch my junk, junk
Gonna smack him if he getting too drunk, drunk

Now, now, we go until they kick us out, out
Or the police shut us down, down
Police shut us down, down
Po-po shut us"

^This^

[narcoman]

Originally Posted by Keire

This is a contrived, market researched, professionally constructed product as far as I can tell.

absolutely. It couldn't be anything else!!

[audiogeek]

Originally Posted by Keire

She's everything I can't stand about the Hills and those other MTV shows personified.

Ironic, take everything for granted, spoiled, entitled brat = check

I read this adbusters article sometime ago that pretty much sums up my feelings on the subject.

https://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html

that's an excellent article.

[Podgorny]

Originally Posted by Keire

I read this adbusters article sometime ago that pretty much sums up my feelings on the subject.

https://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html

Wow. That article is every bit as hollow and posed as the hipsters he's speaking against.

"An amalgamation of its own history, the youth of the West are left with consuming cool rather that creating it. The cultural zeitgeists of the past have always been sparked by furious indignation and are reactionary movements."

Excessive wordiness cannot hide a lack of substance.
But I'll bet a lot of people think what this guy wrote is some kind of revelation.


Here's the truth (and the author hit the nail on the head with this one point):
"it is rare, if not impossible, to find an individual who will proclaim themself a proud hipster."

The author spent all night hanging out at a hipster club. So that makes him what, a scenester?
Insipid.

[Darwin James]

Some people have the taste of a 8 year old girl, pretty much the only thing learned here. Close this worthless thread.

[OceanMan]

Yes, worthless thread. I'd bang ke$ha any day, but goddamn is that song aweful

[Id Ridden]

It's not Keesha or Ketchup, It's Ke$ha, like Ke$ha haha

Respect where respect is due, that's a well done track, and album in general. It's been awhile since I've first heard a song on the radio and thought, wow that is gonna be big. Super catchy. The Nintendo style beats, love it. The Production is good. Her whole package is well done really and you have to at least give props for that, regardless if it was contrived or not, which it was. Lyrical content?? It is what it is...Perfect for the intended market, and as sad as that is, it's reality...

I still like Britney and Lady GaGa more though, although I think Ke$ha might be a bit catchier, she just doesn't have something the other 2 do...

[author]

Originally Posted by Id Ridden

I still like Britney and Lady GaGa more though, although I think Ke$ha might be a bit catchier, she just doesn't have something the other 2 do...

I don't know... I think Gaga is more like Elton John.

Ke$ha has an edge. There's this Jerry Lee Lewis/Jagger/early-Elvis thing about her. And people can tell, they react like they did back then. She may use an 808, but her soul is rock'n roll.

[thiagoabreu]

the song is good, the lyrics are shit, the girl is hot.
thats about it. it's not gonna change the world or something.

[travisbrown]

Originally Posted by thiagoabreu

the girl is hot.

Yeah, but I still wouldn't do her because I'd be worried that stupid is contagious.

[travisbrown]

Originally Posted by Podgorny

Wow. That article is every bit as hollow and posed as the hipsters he's speaking against.

"An amalgamation of its own history, the youth of the West are left with consuming cool rather that creating it. The cultural zeitgeists of the past have always been sparked by furious indignation and are reactionary movements."

Excessive wordiness cannot hide a lack of substance.
But I'll bet a lot of people think what this guy wrote is some kind of revelation.


Here's the truth (and the author hit the nail on the head with this one point):
"it is rare, if not impossible, to find an individual who will proclaim themself a proud hipster."

The author spent all night hanging out at a hipster club. So that makes him what, a scenester?
Insipid.

That's Adbusters for you.

Look at this ****ing hipster

[Keire]

Originally Posted by Podgorny

Wow. That article is every bit as hollow and posed as the hipsters he's speaking against.

"An amalgamation of its own history, the youth of the West are left with consuming cool rather that creating it. The cultural zeitgeists of the past have always been sparked by furious indignation and are reactionary movements."

Excessive wordiness cannot hide a lack of substance.
But I'll bet a lot of people think what this guy wrote is some kind of revelation.


Here's the truth (and the author hit the nail on the head with this one point):
"it is rare, if not impossible, to find an individual who will proclaim themself a proud hipster."

The author spent all night hanging out at a hipster club. So that makes him what, a scenester?
Insipid.

Um, wheres your substance? That quote is fantastic in my opinion.

The article brings about many great points concerning the sense of entitlement of middle America and the problems with a culture primarily centered around irony. Its a culture without substance. He's not being wordy. The article is astute.

[travisbrown]

Originally Posted by Keire

Um, wheres your substance? That quote is fantastic in my opinion.

The article brings about many great points concerning the sense of entitlement of middle America and the problems with a culture primarily centered around irony. Its a culture without substance. He's not being wordy. The article is astute.

It's a little narcissistic, which is in itself a little ironic given the subject and thesis.

The quote is pandering to those who already agree. Not poorly written, nor wrong, or anything.

[author]

Originally Posted by travisbrown

Yeah, but I still wouldn't do her because I'd be worried that stupid is contagious.

That's very considerate of you. thumbsup

[Keire]

Originally Posted by travisbrown

It's a little narcissistic, which is in itself a little ironic given the subject and thesis.

The quote is pandering to those who already agree. Not poorly written, nor wrong, or anything.

hmmm, dont think i agree with you there. He's simply writing like an academic.

His point is that there is a lack of authenticity within the hipster culture.

Also, it's a concluding point. And a strong one. Most conclusions tend to pander to those who agree.

Anyway, to flip sides for a minute, the thing I find a little short sighted about the argument is that maybe there isn't much wrong with the hipsters. Maybe it is sincere. Spoiled kids appropriating everything they see in the movies is what happens when they arn't under circumstances that challenging and intuitive. Maybe, its a culture created out of boredom.

My point is irony is something the well off do. When your struggling, you dont tend to have much sense for things ironic. There's no time.

[travisbrown]

Originally Posted by author

That's very considerate of you. thumbsup

Well, you know. There's the burning sensation, embarrassing trips to the medical clinic, the antibiotics from the smug pharmacist, then explaining to my wife how I brought stupid home....

And touché. That was a good reversal. Almost missed it.

[travisbrown]

Originally Posted by Keire

hmmm, dont think i agree with you there. He's simply writing like an academic.

Well, not writing like an academic. He's writing journalistically with a smidge attempt at an academic approach. It's really sort of an op-ed piece. That's not a condemnation, but academic writing is very different.

Originally Posted by Keire

His point is that there is a lack of authenticity within the hipster culture.

Which is an idea that is easy to agree with, seemingly even if you are a hipster.

Originally Posted by Keire

Also, it's a concluding point. And a strong one. Most conclusions tend to pander to those who agree.

The more interesting conclusions are the challenging conclusions. You aren't really forming an argument or being expository by simply setting up a straw man and toppling it with your final sentence. I just got the sense that the lack of a silver bullet conclusion was made up for with a few sentences that really just made us feel good about how we already felt.

I think it sort of backfires in that it's a condemnation of hipsterdom for being facile (is the author a hipster?), when facileness is arguably the thing they seek to embrace. If I were a hipster (am I?), I'd reply with, "Yeah, so?" It leaves a semi-interesting paradox, in any case.

Don't get me wrong. It's an entertaining read and succinct, and he has good turns of phrase. Just think it doesn't need to be read for more than what it appears to be.

Something like Evelyn Waugh's Vile Bodies is a better read on an arguably synonymous culture.

[GearManDude]

haha i love this song. my band did a heavy cover of this!

[lebeato]

I like the way each generation believes that their loose morals corrupts the next. The line about Jack Daniel's refers to Elizabeth Taylor in the 1960 Movie BUtterfield 8 when she wakes up in a strange room & brushes her teeth with last night's scotch. She won an academy award for the role. And all the youth that saw the movie were instantly corrupted. Probably why the '60's happened.

[autologic]

Originally Posted by Keire

She's everything I can't stand about the Hills and those other MTV shows personified.

Ironic, take everything for granted, spoiled, entitled brat = check

I read this adbusters article sometime ago that pretty much sums up my feelings on the subject.

https://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html

Looks like she grew up on welfare and food stamps!

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[aof21]

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[aof21]

[StereoPari]

The song's got a good "gluey" feel to it

[jbsg02]

Originally Posted by aof21

haha that was good

[andersmv]

Originally Posted by Bryan Talbot

Are you fking kidding me???

Ya, really... He's an ugly mo fo!

[audiogeek]

Originally Posted by Bryan Talbot

Right, but the elderly among you might recall an "Andy Griffith" episode where Aunt Bea and her friend decide to write songs: "If you like swimming, golf or tennis, there is no place like Venice"...

'No more rhyming now, I mean it!'

'Anybody want a peanut?'

[dream]

Originally Posted by Keire

Id rather go after the money guys behind her.

No girl talk about brushing her teeth with jack would ever choreograph a dance.

This is a contrived, market researched, professionally constructed product as far as I can tell. There is no doubt that the brand identity created has consistency and uniformity. But the substance, or lack their of has nothing to do with anything I'm interested in. Tik TOk is pretty much an anthem for being completely useless and proud.

I would love to hear that her whole life she was sitting in her room practicing so that one day she would be able to share with the world

"in't got a care in world, but got plenty of beer
Ain't got no money in my pocket, but I'm already here
And now, the dudes are lining up cause they hear we got swagger
But we kick em to the curb unless they look like Mick Jagger

I'm talking about everybody getting crunk, crunk
Boys tryin' to touch my junk, junk
Gonna smack him if he getting too drunk, drunk

Now, now, we go until they kick us out, out
Or the police shut us down, down
Police shut us down, down
Po-po shut us"

It's called facebook. It's called myspace. It's called narcissim.

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