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Audio Interfaces for Cubase 5

Just looking for a good audio interface that works seamlessly with Cubase on a PC. This will sit with the desktop at the home studio and will not move. Using the outputs to monitors and probably rarely going to use the inputs. Currently just hip hop production with a midi controller, MPC, etc. Maybe at some point in time I will have a Motif or Fantom, etc. At that point I would probably need the audio in. Should I use a Yamaha like Steinberg recommends? I want top of the line, and only want to buy it once. Like I said, I won't be doing a ton of recording but would like to be able to incorporate small vocal introductions/effect at some point.

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All you need is a stereo interface, a focus rite or lexicon interface would work very well. focusrite interfaces incorporate good pre's and lexicon is a respectable company in dsp's. i dont think youll go wrong with neither.
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Steinberg recommend yamaha because yamaha own steinberg.

That said, the converters and pres on those units are supposed to be top notch, but lots of driver problems with the rack units. You could do a lot worse than go for an N12.
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If you go top of the line, I don't think you'll need to worry much about integration...even the mid-level firewire interfaces all seem to play nice. That said, those N12s add a few bells and whistles that make a few things more convenient if you use Cubase...but all in all, I haven't heard of a top of the line interface that has problems with Cubase.
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I guess you gotta pay to play with that N12, eh?

It does look nice, though.

I read up on these and apparently Firewire is the way to go (unless you get USB2 instead of USB1)

Is this Focusrite unit good? It's only like 400 but the video sells it!

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The focusrite is good. My friend has one and I've played with it. I personally think you can go cheaper with some little EMU 0404 or Audiofire. They will give you the same quality with less inputs... and you said you don't need the inputs so you'll be fine.
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dude. value, intergration, sound- Steinberg MR816CSX. If i had to start over i would TOTALLY get one of these. Go and watch a youtube video demo. The integration with software is dope.
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If I was looking at the same price range as the Saffire, I think I'd probably opt for an Echo Audiofire (great sound and even better stability...THAT counts for a lot) or a Konnekt 24D. I have the Konnekt and really like it a lot. Zero issues with Cubase 4, and I haven't read about any issues with 5.

If you're on a Mac, I'd probably get an Apogee.
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I have an audiofire. It's a good unit.

But, I just got the MR816X and there is no comparison. I downloaded new drivers instead of using the CD that came with it and flashed a firmware update. From that first time, it has run flawlessly on my Quad Phenom PC with Reaper. It works perfectly and the sound is killer. Don't miss the rebates while they are available. In addition to killer AD/DA, you get nice, useable pres. The price is silly.
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I would also recommend the 816 from Steinberg, but I would go for the version without the channel strip. I guess it´s call MR816X instead of the CS.
Can´t do wrong with it. Neither sound wise nor integration wise. Good stuff

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The MR816 is very good, as others already said.

However, you seem to be relying heavily on MIDI-based stuff, so just remember it has no MIDI in. It's no biggie - after all, you can buy a MIDI->USB converter for just 30$ if needed, but anyways...
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That Focusrite Saffier Pro 24 seems to have a midi in and midi out. Same with the Konnekt 24D.

Wondering if I should start out with one of those and just worry about a really good interface for vocals down the road? That Steinberg one is super nice, but maybe these guys have a point about the functionality being too much for me right now?
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MR816 sounds superb great intergration and stable as hell on Mac and Pc using latest Drivers and Firmware
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The Novation XStation 61 has an audio interface built in.... 24-bit... are the pre's junk?
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the n12 works great for me. it's the same as the mr816 csx (i'm fairly certain), but without all of the extra goodies.
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The yamaha stuff is great. I know, I have the N12. But look what he's asking for... "Using the outputs to monitors and probably rarely going to use the inputs." Does he really need an N12 or MR816? I think that saying the MR816 is good advice... but it doesn't answer his question for just something cheap with a good DA and no need for more than maybe 1 or 2 inputs.
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The Novation XStation 61 has an audio interface built in.... 24-bit... are the pre's junk?
Matters what you call junk but probably. They probably were put in as more of an after thought. Still, you don't have to look too high to get some decent outputs. Look at threads on things like the EMU 0404 and stuff in that area. Simple but great audio interfaces with inputs and outputs, decent preamps, headphone outs, etc. for $100 on ebay. Get the novation if you're looking to buy a synth, it's kind of a different product (looks great though).
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Just got a Steinberg MR816X here. LOVE the sound quality so far. Major step up from my MOTU 828MKii and my DIGI002Rack (Sold Both). I could have gotten an RME FF800 for 3 times the cost.

$1,000
Less 15% online coupon
$849
Less $300 Rebate
$549 Total

Cant beat the price for sure. Im diggin it. Id get TWO if I had the dough

The quick connect to Cubase is cool. Hit the sig button on the front and your track input switches right to that input. Good deal to check out.

Whats YOUR budget is the big question?

Plenty of option , just depends how much you want to throw down
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Just got a Steinberg MR816X here. LOVE the sound quality so far. Major step up from my MOTU 828MKii and my DIGI002Rack (Sold Both). I could have gotten an RME FF800 for 3 times the cost.

$1,000
Less 15% online coupon
$849
Less $300 Rebate
$549 Total

Cant beat the price for sure. Im diggin it. Id get TWO if I had the dough

The quick connect to Cubase is cool. Hit the sig button on the front and your track input switches right to that input. Good deal to check out.

Whats YOUR budget is the big question?

Plenty of option , just depends how much you want to throw down
where did you get that deal for the Steinberg MR816X? I might pick up one.
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Chris, I use an M-audio card, i think i paid $100 for it and an RME ADI-2. I mainly use the maudio card as a digital in and out and occasionally the midi input. The RME may not be top of the line converters like Lavry or prism, but better than many of the others. I use it as the master clock, and my inputs and outputs go through there, also has a headphone jack. I would have probably just bought an RME card but they weren't available or in stock at the time. Whatever you do, I would start at the a/d converters and go from there as for what inputs and outs you need, and what fits your budget.
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Dan,

Music123 Coupon Codes for discounts at Music123.com, all Music123 coupons & promotional source codes

If you wait till tomorrow it looks like you can get 20% off
Code=BLACK
if not the 15% code will work 15OFF4U

Just click on the coupon and it will take you to their site.
I think Music 123 is guitar center

Once on the site just type in MR816X in the search box and it will take you to the page. Add it to your cart and go to checkout and enter your COUPON CODE and hit apply.
THe coupon percent will deduct.

Once you get your unit you can send in the REBATE form for another $300 off by Jan 31
http://steinbergnorthamerica.com/wp-...form_20101.pdf

You can get your retailer to price match as well
I ended up getting mine at Sweetwater but it doesnt matter
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I didn't want to start a separate thread for my simple question about the 816, so ...

The back of the 816 shows mic inputs 3-8 and 2 inserts. So, if you got 8 mic cables coming say from a drumkit, then mic cable 1 and 2 goes in ..... where? in the "insert" slots? or do you bring the cables over the top and stick'em in the front?
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Another satisfied MR816 user here.

Its ridiculous at it's current price- people are talking about getting them for $600ish after the currently available rebate.

Seriously they are as good or better then MH, RME, or Apogge Ensembles which rung 1500-2k. At $600 it's just a no-brainer for the original poster to grab one.
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I didn't want to start a separate thread for my simple question about the 816, so ...

The back of the 816 shows mic inputs 3-8 and 2 inserts. So, if you got 8 mic cables coming say from a drumkit, then mic cable 1 and 2 goes in ..... where? in the "insert" slots? or do you bring the cables over the top and stick'em in the front?
There are mic inputs on 1-8 but inserts on 1 & 2 if you want to use them.
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There are mic inputs on 1-8 but inserts on 1 & 2 if you want to use them.
Yeah, but mic input 1-2 is on the front. If you're going to use all 8, will you have to come over the top with 2 mic cables and put them in on the front, while mic 3-8 goes in the back? If so, it makes it sound cumbersome to have it rack mounted.
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I didn't want to start a separate thread for my simple question about the 816, so ...

The back of the 816 shows mic inputs 3-8 and 2 inserts. So, if you got 8 mic cables coming say from a drumkit, then mic cable 1 and 2 goes in ..... where? in the "insert" slots? or do you bring the cables over the top and stick'em in the front?
Yeah, you'd just stick 'em in the front.

You could use the insert (= singular, but it affects both channels 1 and 2) to hook up a separate preamp (ref. the manual: "in the internal circuitry, these jacks are positioned immediately before the A/D converters" and SB administrator Eckhard Doll: "Indeed, only the inserts bypass the pre amps. Everything else goes right through them. If you need to use your own additional preamps, the digital inputs are the only way to bypass our preamps.").
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With the MR816, I see that it has no midi I/O.

Would I just hook up my MPK61 via USB cable to my DAW without going through the interface?

Then I see midi I/O to USB cables which I figure would do identically the same thing as above?

Or do I have to go midi cable to interface, interface to computer? Is there any benefit?
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You don't need to go through the interface.
Interfaces usually have midi i/o which is why people do that, also 'native' hardware midi ports often offer lower latency figures than usb.

Your akai kb has usb midi so just use that straight to the computer.
No point complicating the matter with an adapter cable, you won't see a benefit.

One thing to remember though is that with your keyboard, it's either midi over usb OR din, so if you have a usb connection established, you can't use the din port as an extra port for hooking up any other modules.
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So how stable are those Steinberg Interfaces under Windows 7 / OSX 10.6.2 using Cubase 5 theses days ?

How big is the min buffersize / latency you cabn get without hickups ?

I plan To integrate some external effects. Will the Steinberg be ok or sould I rather take the RME ...400... ?
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So how stable are those Steinberg Interfaces under Windows 7 / OSX 10.6.2 using Cubase 5 theses days ?

How big is the min buffersize / latency you cabn get without hickups ?

I plan To integrate some external effects. Will the Steinberg be ok or sould I rather take the RME ...400... ?
I'm the OP on this thread. Since then, I have made a DAW that consists of the following below... I am using the MR816x on Windows 7 64-bit with the latest Cubase 5 update. Running the Win 7 Legacy drivers on my PCI firewire card, works like a charm!

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It's ridiculously fast/reliable. I love it!
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