SUMMARY: The Reason Most ITB mixes don’t Sound as good as Analog mixes

[nyne]

How about a bullet point summary...........

[princeplanet]

Sure! nice of you to offer!

[surflounge]

point one:

[FeatheredSerpent]

I'll have a go at starting, just add to or delete anything patently wrong! But I'll keep it short.

• Many people hear what they want to hear, especially when they have invested so much time, emotion, energy and money exclusively into analogue.

• Investing a massive amount of time, emotion, energy and money into something usually means you are going to be able to get a far better result over something you are less familiar with, however subjective the inherent benefits of your preferred working medium are.

• The technology, some terms, and many of the approaches required for a good itb mix are different to an otb mix. Therefore it is taking time for the knowledge to cross over successfully.

• For those that are new to the game, with no background in analogue, progress has still been slower than would otherwise be the case thanks to the (continuing) proliferation of wholly innaccurate information, especially in those areas that newcomers tradiitonally turn to as learning resources.

• The technology has changed significantly over a very short period of time, compounding the 2 problems listed directly above.

• Most of the bias and pre-judgement arises from the fact that a large majority of 'all itb' users are amateurs.

• I missed this at first, but probably one of the most important it seems to me, is that otb mixing involves a more profound level of aural perception due to fewer demands on the visual cortex, whereby itb mixing has the opposite effect.

[Dean Roddey]

So, could we then have just summed it up even more succinctly with:

1. Stupidity
2. Lack of Magic Juice

I dunno. The whole thing seems pretty obvious to me, but I guess it takes a lot of discussion to figure that out. It's not a tape machine and it's not a console, so don't expect it to do to the sound what a tape machine and console does. If you want those effects, you have to get them in other ways. And you don't need to record super-hot.

[Slipperman]

1.) Gain scheduling is vitally important in any audio transduction system. Even crappy ones.

2.) There are no Polo grounds in Blue Island IL.

3.) Some people in the town apparently don't like tea and crumpets.

4.) Sad current fact appears to be: Most people you will meet in Blue Island have never actually HAD tea and crumpets. Most probably never will.

4b.) Other people in the city actually can't afford tea and crumpets anymore with the collapse of the world polo economy, and would like to conveniently forget this little fact and instead focus on how messy they could be to serve regularly, back when they COULD afford them...

Not surprisingly, those still playing polo and eating crumpets, often have trouble taking these individuals seriously, noting that they issue these statements whilst choking down Dunkin Donuts at the bus stop.

Sadly, many persons there in Blue Island(not so mysteriously) become totally enraged about the whole tea and crumpets subject.

I've been told that some suspect this is because these 4.)type of individuals have seen folks on TV enjoying the living f*ck outta tea and crumpets and have decided "they are elitist bastards".

This reportedly now has also become the unlikely mantra of some of the 4b.) bunch.

That particular group of persons, in fact, seem to get the most hurt in the ass about the subject of all the various polo/tea and crumpet detractors. Some have even been known to purchase plastic blow-up polo ponies and flog them wildly while guzzling snapple and pork rinds. Often shouting various anti-polo rhetoric as they assemble and embark on routine "Crush the Crumpet" street demonstrations.

5.) Ironically, and most tellingly, many folks who have tea and crumpets every day still seem to find them amazing, and are often heard to remark on how a good polo mallet makes an excellent weapon in a pinch.

No really, you can kill somebody with one.

Get away with it too.. if you can prove it was self defense.



SM.

PS. This is supposed to be funny. Kinda.

[dudeitsree]

Originally Posted by slipperman

1.) Gain scheduling is vitally important in any audio transduction system. Even crappy ones.

2.) There are no Polo grounds in Blue Island IL.

3.) Some people in the town apparently don't like tea and crumpets.

4.) Sad current fact appears to be: Most people you will meet in Blue Island have never actually HAD tea and crumpets. Most probably never will.

4b.) Other people in the city actually can't afford tea and crumpets anymore with the collapse of the world polo economy, and would like to conveniently forget this little fact and instead focus on how messy they could be to serve regularly, back when they COULD afford them...

Not surprisingly, those still playing polo and eating crumpets, often have trouble taking these individuals seriously, noting that they issue these statements whilst choking down Dunkin Donuts at the bus stop.

Sadly, many persons there in Blue Island(not so mysteriously) become totally enraged about the whole tea and crumpets subject.

I've been told that some suspect this is because these 4.)type of individuals have seen folks on TV enjoying the living f*ck outta tea and crumpets and have decided "they are elitist bastards".

This reportedly now also become the unlikely mantra of the 4b.) bunch.

That particular group of persons, in fact, seem to get the most hurt in the ass about the subject of all the various polo/tea and crumpet detractors. Some have even been known to purchase plastic blow-up polo ponies and flog them wildly while guzzling snapple and pork rinds. Often shouting various anti-polo rhetoric as they assemble and embark on routine "Crush the Crumpet" street demonstrations.

5.) Ironically, and most tellingly, many folks who have tea and crumpets every day still seem to find them amazing, and are often heard to remark on how a good polo mallet makes an excellent weapon in a pinch.

No really, you can kill somebody with one.

Get away with it too.. if you can prove it was self defense.



SM.

PS. This is supposed to be funny. Kinda.

HAHAHA Awesome.... Well done

[FeatheredSerpent]

Originally Posted by slipperman

Some have even been known to purchase plastic blow-up polo ponies and flog them wildly while guzzling snapple and pork rinds.

LOL! I'm still recovering from that one..

[Suda Badri]

Originally Posted by slipperman

1.) Gain scheduling is vitally important in any audio transduction system. Even crappy ones.

2.) There are no Polo grounds in Blue Island IL.

3.) Some people in the town apparently don't like tea and crumpets.

4.) Sad current fact appears to be: Most people you will meet in Blue Island have never actually HAD tea and crumpets. Most probably never will.

4b.) Other people in the city actually can't afford tea and crumpets anymore with the collapse of the world polo economy, and would like to conveniently forget this little fact and instead focus on how messy they could be to serve regularly, back when they COULD afford them...

Not surprisingly, those still playing polo and eating crumpets, often have trouble taking these individuals seriously, noting that they issue these statements whilst choking down Dunkin Donuts at the bus stop.

Sadly, many persons there in Blue Island(not so mysteriously) become totally enraged about the whole tea and crumpets subject.

I've been told that some suspect this is because these 4.)type of individuals have seen folks on TV enjoying the living f*ck outta tea and crumpets and have decided "they are elitist bastards".

This reportedly now has also become the unlikely mantra of some of the 4b.) bunch.

That particular group of persons, in fact, seem to get the most hurt in the ass about the subject of all the various polo/tea and crumpet detractors. Some have even been known to purchase plastic blow-up polo ponies and flog them wildly while guzzling snapple and pork rinds. Often shouting various anti-polo rhetoric as they assemble and embark on routine "Crush the Crumpet" street demonstrations.

5.) Ironically, and most tellingly, many folks who have tea and crumpets every day still seem to find them amazing, and are often heard to remark on how a good polo mallet makes an excellent weapon in a pinch.

No really, you can kill somebody with one.

Get away with it too.. if you can prove it was self defense.



SM.

PS. This is supposed to be funny. Kinda.

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