SSL Summing and stereo strips

[pigpen]

Ok so here is good one...This looks cool. However I cannot find out any info about the way the 5000 series sounds compared to the SSl we all love .
They are cusotm building summing racks also! Could be awesome, could be shiat!. I am waiting for a price right now for a 16in, 2 out, 2 eq, 2 comps.

Any thoughts????

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Check out the way their Telefunken racks look!!! Sexy!

[pigpen]

noone?

[Ziggy!!]

The SSL 5000 series were designed as broadcast desks if i remember correctly.


Thats about all i can add.

How much to the custom summing racks go for?

[pigpen]

waiting to hear back....

[BB Bill]

Originally Posted by pigpen

Ok so here is good one...This looks cool. However I cannot find out any info about the way the 5000 series sounds compared to the SSl we all love .
They are cusotm building summing racks also! Could be awesome, could be shiat!. I am waiting for a price right now for a 16in, 2 out, 2 eq, 2 comps.

Any thoughts????

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Check out the way their Telefunken racks look!!! Sexy!

the 5k series don't sound like the classic 4k series, in particular the EQ sections are inferior to the good old 242 EQ.

might sound decent, but it won't give you that SSL 4000 feeling you're (probably) looking for.

i've toyed with the idea of having a custom 8ch summing unit/mixer built out of 4k modules with black 242 EQ's. doable, but expensive.

now THAT would be the shiat, my friend.

[Ziggy!!]

You can get prebuilt SSL 8 & 16 channel sidecars but im sure they cost a pretty penny.

http://www.aesproaudio.com/nev_sslpro.htm

[Reptil]

http://gearslutz.com/board/showthrea...hlight=SSL+502

[pigpen]

Thanks for all your posts..looks like everything else in the pro audio world. If it sounds too good to be true...it is.
Thanks
daniel

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by Big Bad Bill

the 5k series don't sound like the classic 4k series, in particular the EQ sections are inferior to the good old 242 EQ.

.

A big part of the sound of the 242 EQ are the filters.


The 5K doesn't have them.

[DrDeltaM]

Originally Posted by Big Bad Bill

i've toyed with the idea of having a custom 8ch summing unit/mixer built out of 4k modules with black 242 EQ's. doable, but expensive.

now THAT would be the shiat, my friend.

You'll be able to do this easily soon, all new from SSL. It'd be a 9k tho. Watch out for the XRack.

[Dirty Halo]

I too have emaled twice now and asked for quotes on both a rack of pres/compressors AND their 8 channel summing.

I've heard NOTHING...

It might be too good to be true and ya know what they say, so if ANYONE has heard from them, please share... even email me.

andrewsj@redbuttoncreative.com

-a

[Jim Williams]

Looks like SSL is going the way of MCI, DDA, AMEK, etc.

Put a fork in them.

I guess they will be out of biz within 2 years.

The new business model. Adapt or die.....

Won't miss them here. Too cloudy.

Maybe they can go back to automating pipe organs.


Jim Williams
Audio Upgrades

[ajcamlet]

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

Looks like SSL is going the way of MCI, DDA, AMEK, etc.

Put a fork in them.

I guess they will be out of biz within 2 years.

The new business model. Adapt or die.....

Won't miss them here. Too cloudy.

Maybe they can go back to automating pipe organs.


Jim Williams
Audio Upgrades

I thought Peter Gabriel Just bought the company was was retooling it?

[Soldier777c]

How are the 510 dynamics modules?

[Dirty Halo]

Looks like good products, but have not heard of them before (this begins with the orignal post on this thread)

www.audiojunkie.co.uk

If anyone knows ANYTHING about these guys or if they are legit, please let us know.

-a

[pigpen]

Hello agian Dirty halo...nah man, I dropped them 2 emails now, 1 even including this link to no avail. I will not try again....
I'm over it already......what to buy now???Hmmmm!

[raal]

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

Looks like SSL is going the way of MCI, DDA, AMEK, etc.

Put a fork in them.

I guess they will be out of biz within 2 years.

The new business model. Adapt or die.....

so much hate... i personally hope SSL, Neve and Digi are doing very well in two years... and see good chances of that happening.

[Ziggy!!]

Originally Posted by raal

so much hate... i personally hope SSL, Neve and Digi are doing very well in two years... and see good chances of that happening.

yeah I agree...



Perhaps SSL's are too complex for jim to mod... either that or everyone likes the sound of them

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by Ziggy!!

Perhaps SSL's are too complex for jim to mod... either that or everyone likes the sound of them

Oh no... battle of the geekslutz!

[Jim Williams]

Originally Posted by Ziggy!!

yeah I agree...



Perhaps SSL's are too complex for jim to mod... either that or everyone likes the sound of them

Where did you'all get the idea there is hate in my message? It's just the facts, mamm. If you don't like that, it still doesn't make it false. I would like to see the company re-tool and make smaller high quality analog consoles, but who thinks that will ever happen?

Look, the new business model no longer includes mondo analog console makers. I don't like it, because the alternative is more cheap crappy sounding digital consoles. There appears to have been enough of these big boys made to satisfy that end of the market and used consoles are readily available for those that still want to go in that direction.

I love moding SSL consoles because there is so much improvement to be had. Unfortunately, the name alone still seems to draw in some biz without the owners feeling the need to improve things. Most of the SSL's I've worked on were done to satisfy a owner whose ears were bleeding, not to hot rod some business model company that is already happy with the name draw.

Personally, I don't know how anyone could squeeze a high quality jazz recording out of a stock one, what a filter!

One reporter's opinion.

Jim Williams
Audio Upgrades

[pigpen]

At the same time I inquired the Audio junkie company, I found this as well. I am going with a Shadow Hills console when they hit so I am out, but I thought you might find this info good....cheaper anyway.

"RECYCLED AUDIO SSL RACKS

Here are some of the standard combinations that have proved most popular with our customers.

We are happy to consider other permutations but be aware that custom racks can be complex to assemble and this is reflected in the price. As these racks are made using pre-owned components some items have limited availability.

All racks are 4U, 19” with removable feet and rack ears. Prices are quoted exclusive of VAT and postage.

The EQ Rack - £1450
4 x 502 mono eq cassettes with 4 x 505 line/line cassettes.

The Channel Rack - £1850
2 x 502 mono eq cassettes with 2 x 505 line/line input cassettes, and 2 x 510 mono dynamic cassettes.

Both these racks are also available with Mic Input cassettes, replacing 505’s with 501 mic/line cassettes, at an extra cost of £250 per 501 module.

The Stereo Channel Rack - £1650

1 x 522 stereo eq cassette with 1 x 521 stereo input cassette and 1 x 520 stereo compressor limiter.

This leaves space in a rack for future expansion eg: room for a second stereo channel.

The SSL 5000 series are not very well known in the recording industry
because
they were sold mainly to film and broadcast studios.They have only
recently
been decomissioned as these studios favour digital products. They are
similar
in design to the later E-series 4000. The EQ circuitry looks almost
identical
to the 4K black EQ, however I have heard that its sound is also similar
to
the Neve VR series EQs. The mono dynamics also looks like the 4K but
with
much lower distortion and noise.

These desks were used by oldschool type broadcasters like the BBC and
had to
comply with very high standards so and were built to a high
specification.

I have attached our price list for our standard racks, we do build
custom
racks but do be aware that they cost a lot more. I'm afraid that with
the
current exchange rate the shipping cost to the US will look quite
expensive
to you as it works out at £112.00 plus £30 insurance for airmail, it is
slightly cheaper by surface mail but you can't get any insurance for
loss or
damage if you choose this route.

Cheers Keith"

Hope that is good to someone.
daniel

[Reptil]

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

A big part of the sound of the 242 EQ are the filters.


The 5K doesn't have them.

eumm there is filters in the 5000 series preamp module.
are these different from those in the 4000 series?
anybody have a picture of these 4000 modules? (just to satisfy a green slutz' curiosity thumbsup )

and I think my strip sounds "jumpy" (not a bad thing): Is that the slewrate on these preamp units? These eqs are totally different from any other I have here, pithy is the word I think,... anyway, IMO they are quirky. I like quirky. Quirky is a colour.
Jim, how would these old eqs sound after a mod? I like the lows, but the highs and high mids can when abused indeed cause aural haemorrhage. (that is probably bright red. LOL)

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

Personally, I don't know how anyone could squeeze a high quality jazz recording out of a stock one, what a filter!

also I notice a difference between the 502 and 522 and also the preamps: (except for the latter being stereo units) andah how do new eqs and channelstrips compare? exactly? I did hear some desk, so I have a rough picture in my memory but never had the chance to get intimate with the console. (not many around europe, except UK, we all use beringggher! LOL )

http://gearslutz.com/board/showpost....14&postcount=9

http://www.recycledaudio.co.uk/stere...inch%20web.jpg

Oh and I had email contact with audiojunky. januari this year. I bought from "Recycled Audio", nice unit, fine service, happy camper here...

just read in SOS that Massive Attack got a G desk for their new studio.. I like their sound, especially the first album "Blue Lines". Did they use an SSL for that? They used to have a DDA desk before that in their project studio, but apparantly went to Olympic Studios to mix "100th window". Just curious, I do not want to try to copy that "sound", as I have/am working on my own.
thanks

[Wiggy Neve Slut]

Massive atacks albums were or are all MIXED on SSL..

I assisted the dude who mixed 'Blue Lines' many years ago and just pestered the fcuk out of him about that album, cos im SUCH a M/Attack fan. But he said it was pretty much just a straight mix with minimal FX etc.. and watching him mix the project we were working on at the time it made sense and i got to see where he really came from in his mixing style and perspective.

I really think that 'Spike' has nailed thier sound. I found it interesting that they want him to come to thier studio instead of his palatial mix suite @ Olympic! And Mezzanine still blows my mind.

That album is pure SSL being pushed to the limits with lots of gimickery on top.

Wiggy

[Reptil]

Blue Lines is in my all time top 10. thanks Wiggy for the heads up.