Sad Moments In Audio History

[joeq]

it's the 80's
kid opens up an older preamp and looks inside and sees a tube

"wow it's just like a transistor - but made out of glass!"

is that sad, too?

in the 50's a kid sees an Edison phonograph and says "hey it's just like a record, but it's cylindrical!"

My techy young nephew saw his great-grandmother's Rotary phone and got all excited 'wow, what is THAT?"

But we should not 'expect' young people to somehow magically possess this background and historical perspective.

It is up to us who have lived through the history to impart it to them.

We have no right to be 'sad' about it unless we have truly made the effort and somehow failed.

[carllock]

My moment came two years ago when I gave my "future superstar rapper" an album to put on the turntable so I could sample it....I kept hearing clicks and I was like WTF and turned around and the rapper put the needle at the very end.

[eusagc]

Originally Posted by Knox

that's no "engineer" . . . . if he let's someone else set up the vocal mic or at least doesn't check to make sure it's set up properly before they do a "take". The vocal is 'semi' important. *smile*

Semi-important... LOL! Yep, you gotta point there dude...

[Toro]

My son just "found" my CD collection in my music room, he started at it with his friends, and than said to one of them "i told you the stuff is huge" and papa keeps saying that they sound way better than mp3's but i don't think he knows what he's talking about

[Resis]

Hahaha. Great!

[Karloff70]

Originally Posted by joeq

it's the 80's
kid opens up an older preamp and looks inside and sees a tube

"wow it's just like a transistor - but made out of glass!"

is that sad, too?

in the 50's a kid sees an Edison phonograph and says "hey it's just like a record, but it's cylindrical!"

My techy young nephew saw his great-grandmother's Rotary phone and got all excited 'wow, what is THAT?"

But we should not 'expect' young people to somehow magically possess this background and historical perspective.

It is up to us who have lived through the history to impart it to them.

We have no right to be 'sad' about it unless we have truly made the effort and somehow failed.

Badabing thumbsup

[Levi]

It is up to us who have lived through the history to impart it to them.

The only problem with this is that 90% of them don't WANT to hear about it, because they know what's best!

[Karloff70]

Originally Posted by Levi

The only problem with this is that 90% of them don't WANT to hear about it, because they know what's best!

Well, then you go to the time honoured practice of 'planting seeds' which may hatch later on, when the "I know everything" wears off..........

[Acko]

Originally Posted by Fletcher

I wonder which thought is sadder?

C'mon Fletcher admit it, you know wich one is sadder

[lotus1]

Originally Posted by Silver Sonya

Young band being given a studio tour. Upon surveying the control room, a member excitedly marvels over the console. Grabs a fader and moves it up, just for the sensation.

Exclaims "It's like Pro Tools, but... in physical form!"

No joke.

You are now free to hang your head in shame.

- c

Why is the joy of discovery always interpreted as negative...another moment of possible education/possible client interface lost.Oh well.M

[Levi]

Well, then you go to the time honoured practice of 'planting seeds' which may hatch later on, when the "I know everything" wears off..........

Exactly! You know, it's interesting... I'm now 40, done some pretty amazing things in my career, been through some crap stuff as well. BUT, I'm ALWAYS looking for mentoring situations for myself, where I can really sit down and learn from a master, gather some wisdom, apply it, grow, etc. In EVERY area of life! I just don't see that attitude as often now with the next generations.

I did an interview with an audio engineering student the other day and he asked what would propel him to the top of his field. My answer was "Show up 5 minutes early and be willing to stay 5 hours late, all with a smile on your face and kind words from your mouth!" Seriously, I've set folks up with intern situations with some of the best studios in town, only to find out they've left the owner in a lurch, didn't bother to show up to sessions, etc. Man, where did integrity disappear to?

[Karloff70]

Originally Posted by Levi

Exactly! You know, it's interesting... I'm now 40, done some pretty amazing things in my career, been through some crap stuff as well. BUT, I'm ALWAYS looking for mentoring situations for myself, where I can really sit down and learn from a master, gather some wisdom, apply it, grow, etc. In EVERY area of life! I just don't see that attitude as often now with the next generations.

I did an interview with an audio engineering student the other day and he asked what would propel him to the top of his field. My answer was "Show up 5 minutes early and be willing to stay 5 hours late, all with a smile on your face and kind words from your mouth!" Seriously, I've set folks up with intern situations with some of the best studios in town, only to find out they've left the owner in a lurch, didn't bother to show up to sessions, etc. Man, where did integrity disappear to?

lol thumbsup

40 in may myself.......I think integrity just isn't too high on the fashion list of desire just now....all want to get somewhere desirable without investing the necessary sweat. Not realising that without the paying in sweat EVEN IF they get there by some other means, it won't have much value once there. But it does still exist, and will no doubt make a comeback. Cycles. Always cycles.

[redrue]

Originally Posted by Levi

I did an interview with an audio engineering student the other day and he asked what would propel him to the top of his field. My answer was "Show up 5 minutes early and be willing to stay 5 hours late, all with a smile on your face and kind words from your mouth!"

Perhaps the most important key to success -- regardless of your path...

[beanface]

Originally Posted by narcoman

i do . Daily !!

Same with "guitar VSTs" etc ......ughhh

Hideous aint they? The first time I heard that Refx thing i almost p*ssed my pants laughing.

[joeq]

Originally Posted by Levi

The only problem with this is that 90% of them don't WANT to hear about it, because they know what's best!

Originally Posted by Karloff70

Well, then you go to the time honoured practice of 'planting seeds' which may hatch later on, when the "I know everything" wears off..........

Mark Twain: "When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years."

[Nishmaster]

Not audio but it made me sad,

I was upstairs in my apartment playing some 8bit original Zelda not too long ago. One of my roommates' drum students, who is 12 years old, walks in and looks at the tv for a moment.

"What is that game you're playing? It's funny looking."

"Oh, it's just some old school Zelda."

The kid is incredulous, I'm not even sure he believed me. "That's Zelda!? It doesn't look like the one I have." A long pause. "It looks really old."

I suppose I should look on the bright side. At least I wasn't playing Pitfall on my old 2600.

[Karloff70]

Originally Posted by joeq

Mark Twain: "When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years."

lol thumbsup

[BillytheMTN]

Originally Posted by Nishmaster

I suppose I should look on the bright side. At least I wasn't playing Pitfall on my old 2600.

I actually laughed out loud on that one. I guess you really had to be there to love that game the way I do.

[Grumblefoot]

Originally Posted by Nishmaster

Not audio but it made me sad,

I was upstairs in my apartment playing some 8bit original Zelda not too long ago. One of my roommates' drum students, who is 12 years old, walks in and looks at the tv for a moment.

"What is that game you're playing? It's funny looking."

"Oh, it's just some old school Zelda."

The kid is incredulous, I'm not even sure he believed me. "That's Zelda!? It doesn't look like the one I have." A long pause. "It looks really old."

I suppose I should look on the bright side. At least I wasn't playing Pitfall on my old 2600.

mmmmmm........ Pitfall.

[colinmiller]

Originally Posted by inthere

A guy samples my record, then sues a group that samples his sample of me......and they pay him instead of me.

Odd as it is, that's the way it should work. Now you can sue him. They can't pay you because you haven't claimed damages. Of course I am sure you already know this and explaining it the way I have kinda takes the fun out of the story.

But when it comes to sad moments in a session I have a bookmarked URL that I recommend everyone else bookmark so that at that exact moment happens, you can bring up this site:

Sad Trombone

Everyone else in the room might not get it, but that doesn't matter.

[gainreduction]

A client called me asking for a quote on producing one track. The first thing he said after hello was "will you edit the drums ?".

[Chrislpp]

Originally Posted by Levi

The only problem with this is that 90% of them don't WANT to hear about it, because they know what's best!

You're talking about kids in every decade of every century of every millenia of every......etc.

[sscannon]

The OP is pretty funny. I had a band tour the studio, and a kid looks at the console and says, "Wow! They made it look just like the Pro Tools mixer!" Arggggh.

[Silver Sonya]

This thread was meant as lighthearted. Some of the people in this thread took it more seriously/darkly than was intended. I was just having fun with a real-life anecdote.

It was just an amusing moment. Almost psychedelic reversal of causality. That's pretty much it. Y'know?

- c

[u b k]

You wanna feel old? Try tutoring a high schooler in Algebra II. They don't do long division or multiplication the way I'm used to, they make these diagonal matrices and everything gets added crosswise. But it doesn't really matter because they use calculators on tests.

Have a conversation about music, bands, downloading, and ipods/cellphones with a 15 year old girl sometime. Everything you think you know about how it is and what it's all become... you don't know sh¡t!

Or, as it is now correct to say... what-EV.


Gregory Scott - ubk
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[sweetmojo]

Postcard/flyer thingy that came in the mail today from Guitar Center:

Front side tag line: "Experience the new Logic Studio: A Studio on your Mac as big as your ambition"

Back side tag line: "Be a musician. Sound like an engineer."

[sam guaiana]

Originally Posted by Levi

Seriously, I've set folks up with intern situations with some of the best studios in town, only to find out they've left the owner in a lurch, didn't bother to show up to sessions, etc. Man, where did integrity disappear to?

This makes me so sad to be a part of my generation. I'm 19 and would kill for an internship at a huge studio to hone my craft. I've been working with Pro tools since I got a used 001 when I was 13, and built all my skill from the ground up, none of that stuff has never come my way yet!

I talk to other people my age or older who are "recording" bands about outboard gear, routing, modding my 002, converters, clocks and their eyes go all

Someone come rescue my ass! Give birth to me in the early to mid-80's please!

[bugs]

http://http://www.gearslutz.com/boar...ey-closin.html

[Brocken]

The only thing we can learn from that anecdote: Boy, we're getting old. But you know what? Get over it. I bet your grandparents were disappointed that no one among you and your friends listens to Brahms' symphonies. Instead: all this guitar noise! Crazy.

[IonicBreed]

Originally Posted by sam guaiana

This makes me so sad to be a part of my generation. I'm 19 and would kill for an internship at a huge studio to hone my craft. I've been working with Pro tools since I got a used 001 when I was 13, and built all my skill from the ground up, none of that stuff has never come my way yet!

I talk to other people my age or older who are "recording" bands about outboard gear, routing, modding my 002, converters, clocks and their eyes go all

Someone come rescue my ass! Give birth to me in the early to mid-80's please!

The only problem with studio's today is all they want is free labor. It's getting harder stay a-float with our current economic problems. So if all you want to do is run errands, clean windows etc...you will have your chance! However for some one who has work ethic and the desire to learn, as well perform tasks exceeding expectations, it seems the best way to learn is on your own! Mentors are harder to find these days and if you can get yourself in a position where you can learn from one of these individuals; do all you can to stay in it.

No one ever said chasing a dream was easy, but its fun as hell.