Phase cancellation between vocals and guitar??/

[Storyville]

automate the volume of the vocal up in the areas where it seems to get masked?

[S.Filpansick]

Originally Posted by Storyville

automate the volume of the vocal up in the areas where it seems to get masked?

Thanks! That was the first thing that came to mind, but I've never done any automation, so I wasn't sure if that was the "right" answer.

Anybody else have any info???

[s.d.finley]

Were the vocals and guitar recorded at the same time in the same room?

[S.Filpansick]

Originally Posted by s.d.finley

Were the vocals and guitar recorded at the same time in the same room?

Separate tracks, not a "live" recording.

Same room, same session, about 15 minutes apart.

[s.d.finley]

Originally Posted by S.Filpansick

Separate tracks, not a "live" recording.

Same room, same session, about 15 minutes apart.

Then no true phasing, as the guitar track is phasing with the guitar bleed in the vocal track, or viceversa. You may have some frequency build up at the point in the song your are talking about. Automation is your friend. Remember, whatever works is right.

[S.Filpansick]

Originally Posted by s.d.finley

Then no true phasing, as the guitar track is phasing with the guitar bleed in the vocal track, or viceversa. You may have some frequency build up at the point in the song your are talking about. Automation is your friend. Remember, whatever works is right.

Well it was tracked through phones, and there is no audible bleed... the guitar track by itself, sounds fine; as does the vocal track; but when they are played pack together, those parts where the vocals and guitar hit the same note get funky.

[Fletcher]

What happens if you flip the GTR or Vocal 180˚ in polarity?

[drtechno]

if cancellation still exists after panning them, flip phase of guitar signal. put them back to mono, observe mix . then pan them like you want to

[demel]

Originally Posted by Fletcher

What happens if you flip the GTR or Vocal 180˚ in polarity?

[Storyville]

It's not a phase problem. It's a masking issue. Automate the volume. If that doesn't work right, automate an eq cut in the guitar to open up the vocal.

Kind of feels like one of those times when you visited the school nurse... don't worry, this may seem strange but it's actually very normal.....

uh oh. 2am gs posts while waiting for sendspace to upload files...

[S.Filpansick]

Awesome... thanks for all of the info guys! I'll screw with it later today and see how it goes!