Varispeed on Big Ben

Gregg Sartiano · 23rd September 2005

Yeeeeeeeeahhhhhh!

I'm doing drums at a sample rate of...ummm...51.35 (44.1 session)

Cooooooool.

Rick Sutton · 23rd September 2005

Yeeeeaaaahhh back at 'ya. The varispeed function is really a plus on the BB and it seems hardly anybody mentions it. When I was researching the BB most of the people (including Apogee) were uncertain if it could be used as a viable varispeed and some didn't even know that it was there. Apogee thought that it only went +-10% of selected sample rate which may be the limitation of some systems ability to lock, but I've found it to be useable way beyond that on my PT HD system.
Yeeeeaaaah and a big YeeeHaaaaaww! You bet, cowboy!

Gregg Sartiano · 23rd September 2005

I held down the key too long -- the VSO speed just started to speed up and I had to restart the PT rig. I was a lot touch-ier with the button the second time. When I started to notice jitter clicks (at 53?), I backed off. Well, I got it almost to 20% VSO.

Does the AD-16x/DA-16x setup do this?

dim light · 23rd September 2005

Tried it but it doesn’t sound that good! What do you guys think?

thenoodle · 23rd September 2005

I get a little confused about this....

If you have some tracks recorded and then want to slow them down ..or pitch them down in order to, say overdub a singer who can't quite make some of the higher notes, I assume you use the Big Ben to vso the daw down...like with the pitch control on a tape recorder. Ok, I get that.

BUT, when you're done overdubbing, and return to the regular sample rate, you now have one track...your new overdub..that is playing back at the wrong sample rate from the rate it was recorded at for the pitch down.

Doesn't that cause problems? Or am I not getting the concept?

max cooper · 23rd September 2005

No, it's playing at the right sample rate. If you're recording at, say, 44.1 and you want to slow the session down to lay one vocal down, then you change to, say, 42.5 and the whole session slows down. Then you lay down the vocal. Then when you speed everything back up, that single vocal that was recorded at 42.5 is now playing back at 44.1, hence the speed change.

I'm hip. Is it worth getting one for my Rosetta 800 just for the varispeed?

I've used PTLE's half speed record feature for MIDI before.

Gregg Sartiano · 23rd September 2005

Yeah, I use that PT shift-space (half speed) thing a lot. I use it for timing edits if I 'm having trouble finding a glitch or deciding which way to go on a tight timing shift.

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Gregg Sartiano Lives for gear Joined: May 2004 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 1,804 Thread Starter	Varispeed on Big Ben Yeeeeeeeeahhhhhh! I'm doing drums at a sample rate of...ummm...51.35 (44.1 session) Cooooooool. __________________ "We need to legitimize peer-to-peer sharing as a business model, because it's already a business. If [the P2P companies] are going to make money on us, we should have a chance to make money along with them." -- Perry Farrell on the failure of national intellectual property policy to keep up with the rapid evolution of online media "Every Internet transmission of a musical work constitutes a public performance of that work. " http://www.ascap.com/weblicense/webfaq.html

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thenoodle Lives for food Joined: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,170	I get a little confused about this.... If you have some tracks recorded and then want to slow them down ..or pitch them down in order to, say overdub a singer who can't quite make some of the higher notes, I assume you use the Big Ben to vso the daw down...like with the pitch control on a tape recorder. Ok, I get that. BUT, when you're done overdubbing, and return to the regular sample rate, you now have one track...your new overdub..that is playing back at the wrong sample rate from the rate it was recorded at for the pitch down. Doesn't that cause problems? Or am I not getting the concept? __________________ *"make multitrack sound for long long time"* *"I don't understand this shootout. May I borrow your ear canals so that we're on the same page?"*

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23rd September 2005	#2
Rick Sutton Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2003 Location: Atascadero, CA Posts: 4,058	Yeeeeaaaahhh back at 'ya. The varispeed function is really a plus on the BB and it seems hardly anybody mentions it. When I was researching the BB most of the people (including Apogee) were uncertain if it could be used as a viable varispeed and some didn't even know that it was there. Apogee thought that it only went +-10% of selected sample rate which may be the limitation of some systems ability to lock, but I've found it to be useable way beyond that on my PT HD system. Yeeeeaaaah and a big YeeeHaaaaaww! You bet, cowboy!

23rd September 2005	#4
dim light Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2003 Location: China Posts: 2,336	Tried it but it doesn’t sound that good! What do you guys think?

23rd September 2005	#6
max cooper Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2004 Location: tx Posts: 8,802	No, it's playing at the right sample rate. If you're recording at, say, 44.1 and you want to slow the session down to lay one vocal down, then you change to, say, 42.5 and the whole session slows down. Then you lay down the vocal. Then when you speed everything back up, that single vocal that was recorded at 42.5 is now playing back at 44.1, hence the speed change. I'm hip. Is it worth getting one for my Rosetta 800 just for the varispeed? I've used PTLE's half speed record feature for MIDI before.