v76 as compared to the v72?

[Marlowe]

I am familar with the v72 and know that the v76 is one of the all time greats but I don't know what the difference is between the two.

Also, why is it that no manufacturers are attempting to clone the tube v series pre's from Telefunken? We see tons of 1073 clones, etc. yet there are only a few people out there restoring the original units and no-one is cloning. This seems strange considering these are seriously classic preamps.

-Marlowe

[Tetness]

Mercury M76 clones the V76.

[oliver archut]

Hello Marlow,

when the V72 was introduced in 1953 only Condenser mics were used in the German studio scene, to be specific the V72 was specially made for the M49/50 mics.
With the introduction of high quality dynamic mics by Sennheiser and the export of American made ribbon mics, a mic pre with more gain was needed, so the IRT started with the V76 project at the end of 1953.
Technical speaking the V76 is nothing else than two V72 cascaded, with a minor modification to the output stage, very low impedance and of course the filter and gain control.

Soundwise? Most of my customers comment on V72s like that:

Great low end, incredible resolution in the mids, and silky smooth high end.

The typical response to a V76 is:
Killer low end, great mid range and muffled high end.

Even the frequency specs overlay identical and the sounds quite varies.

Cloning? There is no real cloning going on; other than for the Neve and and transistor mic pres in general, were you can get x-formers from several different vendors, there are no x-formers commercial available.
There standard tube in and output x-formers you can get off the self won't give you the right tone.

Best regards,

Oliver

[Tetness]

Olvier, I sent you a PM

[KIDBILL]

Originally Posted by oliver archut

Hello Marlow,

when the V72 was introduced in 1953 only Condenser mics were used in the German studio scene, to be specific the V72 was specially made for the M49/50 mics.
With the introduction of high quality dynamic mics by Sennheiser and the export of American made ribbon mics, a mic pre with more gain was needed, so the IRT started with the V76 project at the end of 1953.
Technical speaking the V76 is nothing else than two V72 cascaded, with a minor modification to the output stage, very low impedance and of course the filter and gain control.

Soundwise? Most of my customers comment on V72s like that:

Great low end, incredible resolution in the mids, and silky smooth high end.

The typical response to a V76 is:
Killer low end, great mid range and muffled high end.

Even the frequency specs overlay identical and the sounds quite varies.

Cloning? There is no real cloning going on; other than for the Neve and and transistor mic pres in general, were you can get x-formers from several different vendors, there are no x-formers commercial available.
There standard tube in and output x-formers you can get off the self won't give you the right tone.

Best regards,

Oliver

Old thread but I never heard a v76 have a muffled high end before, did you guys experienced this as well?

[toneguru]

How bout the dif tween a V72 and a V72a?

[bgrotto]

Originally Posted by Tetness

Mercury M76 clones the V76.

And for whatever it's worth, the M76 is my favorite mic amp in the studio. It's the best we got for when you wanna capture a sense of space or a feeling of depth.

EDIT: I should add, we also have the Mercury V72s, and they're good, but don't have the same "wow" factor.