Tascam DM24 or DA7 mixer ??

powerestudio · 19th September 2005

Hi

I need advice to buy a used mixer......what do you prefer?

thx

garymusic · 20th September 2005

01V96 - IMHO light years away from the DM24. Just get the MY8AT card and you 24 ADAT I/O. I sold my DM24 becuase of too many issues with the mix buss clipping. I have no experience with the other mixer in your post so I can't comment on that.

-Gary

powerestudio · 21st September 2005

powerestudio · 21st September 2005

I need advice about good quality sound mixer and cheap unit

De chromium cob · 21st September 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerestudio

I need advice about good quality sound mixer and cheap unit

The Da-7 is fantastic for the money- which keeps getting cheaper as we speak. If I had to choose between the two I'd go Da-7. You can find one loaded for under a grand if you look around...

Switchcraft · 21st September 2005

I had a dm24 and sold it. I dont know, its just kinda... not that coo. in my opinion

Unknown soldier · 21st September 2005

I had a DA7 a while back, very nice board. It's of course digital, and has a digital sound which wasn't what I ultimately wanted. But it has clarity, and all the bells and whistles. Easy to work on to. Pro features.

Another thing to consider is value - DA7's can be had under a grand, while the DM24 commands a bit more, since it's still a newer board. The DA7 is discontinued, and you might have trouble finding service (?).

I think the DA7 is just a more solid desk, all around. You don't hear any issues with it really. The DM24 seems to get complaints and less people are happy with it.

Got to DA7.com - great site about this mixer...

Gregg Sartiano · 21st September 2005

Do you need a mixer mostly for input routing and A/D or mostly for mixdown?

What kind of system are you running?

Manfriday · 21st September 2005

It isnt too rough to find service for the DA7, depending on where you live.

I had to have mine serviced last year and there was a center about 40 minutes away.

PlugHead · 21st September 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by De chromium cob

The Da-7 is fantastic for the money- which keeps getting cheaper as we speak. If I had to choose between the two I'd go Da-7. You can find one loaded for under a grand if you look around...

Ditto: still have a DA7 here: can't beat it for the bread, and they are a steal nowadays for what you get - they sound good - all BS aside - clean board, great routing, and no sonic footprint: save your outboard for that...

my .02 cents

powerestudio · 21st September 2005

I´ll use it for monitoring mixdown and mastering

Synth80s · 21st September 2005

I've used a DA-7 on a couple projects (a while back) and I recall that it sounded quite good and it was easy to operate. It's still owned by one of my best friends and he still loves it.

Still, I feel the need to defend the DM-24 here. After much research, I bought a DM-24 ~2 years ago and I'm very happy with it. I also considered the Yamaha 01V96 and the Ramsa DA-7. The Yamaha didn't offer the flexibility and abundance of I/O I needed and I was concerned about the Ramsa having been discontinued.

DM-24 Pros:

1) Extremely flexible routing (best in class, IMO)
2) 3 option slots for significant expandability; many Tascam option cards available
3) Affordable (even more so now)
4) A/D Converters are quite good, pres are fine for most work
5) Flexible monitoring matrix
6) Powerful headphone output (x2)
7) 2 x S/PDIF & 2 x AES/EBU I/O built in (note: only 2 of the total 4 can be used at once) and built-in ADAT I/O (8 channels)
8) Mine has been reliable -- no issues, no surprises
9) Generally sounds great
10) Tascam Forums is a great resource: http://www.tascamforums.com/

DM-24 Cons:

1) OS can take a while to learn
2) Flexible routing can mean complex routing sometimes
3) DAW control is hit or miss -- works better for some DAWs than others
4) A/D and D/A for sends, returns and monitor output are not as good as input channel A/D (I've got the parts list if you're interested). I added an external D/A for monitoring and it made a big difference.
5) Some users who leave their mixers on 24x7 have had LCD screen issues
6) 96KHz operation effectively halves the system's I/O. I believe the Yamaha has the same limitation, but I think the Ramsa can run at 96KHz with full I/O available. I'd confirm this before purchasing any of them if 96KHz operation is important to you (download the manuals). Otherwise, you could be in for an unpleasant surprise....

If I had it to do over, I'd look more closely at the Yamaha primarily on account of their recent purchase of Steinberg and improved integration with Cubase (Yamaha Studio Connections). I don't regret the DM-24 purchase, especially since I'm mixing ITB more and more these days and the DM-24 is the best digital router around.

Note for RAMSA and DM-24: the meter bridge is an extremely useful option, almost necessary for mixing. I wouldn't want to use either unit without one. FYI, I don't believe Yamaha offers a meter bridge for the 01V96.

-Synth80s

spektor · 3rd January 2006

HOw about the Roland c7100 or the c7200 they sound real good and for a digital board it kinda sounds analog.

19th September 2005	#1
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