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FATSO before and after UBK

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There is a lot of talk about how people like the UBK FATSO but I have not found much before and after mod comparison from users.
Any things that are lost by having the mod or are all the goodies still there?
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Hi
There is a lot of talk about how people like the UBK FATSO but I have not found much before and after mod comparison from users.
Any things that are lost by having the mod or are all the goodies still there?
cheers
i think unless you have 2 its hard to compare before and after. i find the compression easier to set up, the warmth and tranny sound the same to me. what things were you worried about "losing" ??
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i think unless you have 2 its hard to compare before and after. i find the compression easier to set up, the warmth and tranny sound the same to me. what things were you worried about "losing" ??
I really like the tracking compressor on vox and bass - that was the main one.
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I used the unit a ton before the mod. I only had one unit.

Answer: The compression portion of the UBK differs from stock, everything else is exactly the same.

Also, since every other circuit interacts with the compression, the behaviour of the other circuits will differ when compression is engaged. That said, with improved compression going into the other circuits, in my opinion the whole package is enhanced.

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I used a lot before too. I can't find words to describe the incredible deal that this is. It was a very nice box before, now it's amazing.
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can anyone else chime in?

and even better yet - anyone who owns both the stock fatso and the UBK fatso - maybe post some clips that show the differences?

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I found that they respond different but also they can sound pretty much the same in certain settings..
but again after that, they start to respond different then the sound and character differs.

both are great!
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I had both units side by side. The origjnal fatso has more "options to screw up the sound". The ubk seems to be for people who do want a unit to take care of them..

And it has a brown faceplate..
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I had both units side by side. The origjnal fatso has more "options to screw up the sound". The ubk seems to be for people who do want a unit to take care of them..

And it has a brown faceplate..
Yep brown and says UBK !
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I could not be more pleased with the ubk mod. I miss the
general/ 2 buss setting on the original, which was good for
a hi- fi unobtrusive "bright" compression. The other presets didn't
grab me, except for spank, which remains in the ubk mod.

What I gainied in the mod is overwhelmingly positive. Glue is a killer comp for
voc and bass that for me has a 1176 vibe. It also can do excellent
bus work, depending on the source. Smooth is a superfast comp that
puts a sparkle on acoustics that I love. And for drums, splat
and for me, splat+ spank, are incredible. The later gets
awfully close to a Chandler TG 1 on room drums.
So... I lost a little, and gained a veritable arsenal of great compressors.

For me, it was overwhelmingly worth it.

Good luck with it all

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I could not be more pleased with the ubk mod. I miss the
general/ 2 buss setting on the original, which was good for
a hi- fi unobtrusive "bright" compression. The other presets didn't
grab me, except for spank, which remains in the ubk mod.

What I gainied in the mod is overwhelmingly positive. Glue is a killer comp for
voc and bass that for me has a 1176 vibe. It also can do excellent
bus work, depending on the source. Smooth is a superfast comp that
puts a sparkle on acoustics that I love. And for drums, splat
and for me, splat+ spank, are incredible. The later gets
awfully close to a Chandler TG 1 on room drums.
So... I lost a little, and gained a veritable arsenal of great compressors.

For me, it was overwhelmingly worth it.

Good luck with it all

I started this thread and I got the mod done - fantastic result.
Wonderful collection of compressor types in one box
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I could not be more pleased with the ubk mod. I miss the
general/ 2 buss setting on the original, which was good for
a hi- fi unobtrusive "bright" compression. The other presets didn't
grab me, except for spank, which remains in the ubk mod.

What I gainied in the mod is overwhelmingly positive. Glue is a killer comp for
voc and bass that for me has a 1176 vibe. It also can do excellent
bus work, depending on the source. Smooth is a superfast comp that
puts a sparkle on acoustics that I love. And for drums, splat
and for me, splat+ spank, are incredible. The later gets
awfully close to a Chandler TG 1 on room drums.
So... I lost a little, and gained a veritable arsenal of great compressors.

For me, it was overwhelmingly worth it.

Good luck with it all

ahhhh very cool! Thanks for the good info!
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i caved.

Ordered one up. This will definitely fill a void for me, I'm hoping.
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Hell, I was just in Venice, sippin' a cup at Equator with a ubk under my arms! I miss that place already.

If I get my way, I'll be there again this time next year; the only difference will be that rather than flying home, I'll just walk a few blocks back to my house.

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Hell, I was just in Venice, sippin' a cup at Equator with a ubk under my arms! I miss that place already.

If I get my way, I'll be there again this time next year; the only difference will be that rather than flying home, I'll just walk a few blocks back to my house.

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I could not be more pleased with the ubk mod. I miss the
general/ 2 buss setting on the original, which was good for
a hi- fi unobtrusive "bright" compression. The other presets didn't
grab me, except for spank, which remains in the ubk mod.

What I gainied in the mod is overwhelmingly positive. Glue is a killer comp for
voc and bass that for me has a 1176 vibe. It also can do excellent
bus work, depending on the source. Smooth is a superfast comp that
puts a sparkle on acoustics that I love. And for drums, splat
and for me, splat+ spank, are incredible. The later gets
awfully close to a Chandler TG 1 on room drums.
So... I lost a little, and gained a veritable arsenal of great compressors.

For me, it was overwhelmingly worth it.

Good luck with it all
Can you please elaborate more on the 'Glue' in relation to bus work? What kind of sources is it good and/or bad on? I am recording everything from rock music to very bass heavy electronic synth music. Will the glue setting work well for my usage? I am now testing an original FATSO, and I quite enjoy Dave Derr's BUSS comp. If glue is an improvement on the original BUSS setting, then I'll definitely get a UBK.

Cheers,
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.....(the) original FATSO, and I quite enjoy Dave Derr's BUSS comp.....
Cheers,
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I also like the stock FATSO buss compressor.

I'm also curious as to how the UBK modded FATSO equivalent setting sounds....... (is it called glue? i think yes..... ?)

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If I get my way, I'll be there again this time next year; the only difference will be that rather than flying home, I'll just walk a few blocks back to my house.

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Wow G, are you planning a move to Cali??
...how can you leave NYC? tutt
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Wow G, are you planning a move to Cali??
...how can you leave NYC? tutt

I already left.

I still have my place up there, and do a lot of business there, but spend about 95% of my time down in the country, 9 acres, horses for neighbors. Love it, but will be ready to live among people again pretty soon, and I'm so over winter it's not even funny.

NYC is just too loud and fast for me, and everyone's too damn busy to hang out!

I do like autumn and spring there, it can be very pretty. But, call me nuts... I like having more than 600 sq. ft. and I don't want to pay $400,000 for the privilege anymore.



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I still have my place up there, and do a lot of business there, but spend about 95% of my time down in the country, 9 acres, horses for neighbors. Love it, but will be ready to live among people again pretty soon, and I'm so over winter it's not even funny.

NYC is just too loud and fast for me, and everyone's too damn busy to hang out!

I do like autumn and spring there, it can be very pretty. But, call me nuts... I like having more than 600 sq. ft. and I don't want to pay $400,000 for the privilege anymore.



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UBK (and anyone else who has both, and has compared....)

I also like the stock FATSO buss compressor.

I'm also curious as to how the UBK modded FATSO equivalent setting sounds....... (is it called glue? i think yes..... ?)
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I'm also curious as to how the UBK modded FATSO equivalent setting sounds....... (is it called glue? i think yes..... ?)

Glue is extraordinary, but it's no Buss. There is no equivalent to the Buss comp on the UBK; Buss has a crazy slow attack (like 100ms) and gentle knee/ratio so it excels at gentle, unobtrusive compression. My version of unobtrusive compression is lightning-fast el-op style hard limiting (Smooth), a very different beast.

If you're attached to your Buss comp, you will miss it. This is definitely a 'can't have your cake and eat it too' situation!


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UBK (and anyone else who has both, and has compared....)

I also like the stock FATSO buss compressor.

I'm also curious as to how the UBK modded FATSO equivalent setting sounds....... (is it called glue? i think yes..... ?)
I didnt like the stock FATSO on the mix buss but I like glue very much!
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