How do you get that Daft Punk throbbing compression?

[tonyvose]

Hello -- Sorry for asking this, but.... I'm using Digital Performer, and I want to know how to get that throbbing compression like on the Daft Punk track "One More Time," where it sounds like the kick track is somehow controlling the compression of everything else.... If anybody knows this technique, would you please enlighten me? Thank you in advance.
Nick

[Kestral]

I think what you're looking for is called sidechaining. Do a search on that or just "sidechain" and see what you get.

[cajonezzz]

Aleses 3630

[alphajerk]

put a comp on the mixbuss [or mult of elements you want to effect].... mix the kick way loud. comp like hell, fast attack, fast release.

i dont know if i have heard the track in question. just guessing to your description.

[Kestral]

Originally Posted by cajonezzz

Aleses 3630

[TheReal7]

Originally Posted by cajonezzz

Aleses 3630

hahahah that made me laugh thumbsup

[Lindell]

They are using an Alesis 3630 and a Mackie 1604 (atleast on the first album).... no kidding

[cajonezzz]

Originally Posted by Lindell

They are using an Alesis 3630 and a Mackie 1604 (atleast on the first album).... no kidding

Tis true. I wasn't kidding.

I have one, and love it on certain stuff.... laugh if you will!

[u b k]

Originally Posted by Lindell

They are using an Alesis 3630 and a Mackie 1604 (atleast on the first album).... no kidding

please tell me homework wasn't their first album! i love the sound of that record.


gregoire
del ubik

[bunnerabb]

Hit records are songs, not gear lists. Record. Listen. Adjust as necessary.

Use what works.

[shapemod]

Check this tread!

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/showt...ghlight=alesis

[tweaknads]

YOU NEVER GET A SECOND CHANCE TO MAKE A FIRST SIDE-BAND COMPRESSION

Nic Fanciulli’s mix of “Flashdance” Deep Dish track, which was my peak time track in a DJ set for like six months. You just play that track, and people go spastic, 10,000 people going mental, right? And you go, what is it about this that’s so breathtakingly powerful? It’s the loudest record I’ve ever had. What happens when your ears are bombarded with really loud sound is they saturate, they naturally compress. People that are the best at using compression, people like William Orbit — I don’t think there’s anybody better at using compression — you can listen to one of their records really soft, and it still sounds ridiculously loud. So listening to that record, I thought, what the hell is it in this record that makes it sound so loud?

What they did, and it took me a long time to figure this out, is, it’s a straight eighth-note bass line, and it’s moving in octaves, so it’s like the low note first, and then the octave above on the “ands.” Straight four-on-the-floor kick drum, right? So the bass note is emphasizing the kick drums, right? The sound is a really buzzy saw sound, like 16 Saw Oscillators??? Obviously an analog synth, right? But then underneath it they’ve also put a sine wave, which is like the old drum-and-bass trick, which is another trick that I poach, where you’ve got a high-pass filtered bass line that’s a really buzzy or distorted sound — like high-pass filter or even band-pass filter, when they sweep the band pass — but you’ve got a high-pass filter on it at, you know, 120 Hz, and then you get all the ass end in the sound from the sine wave. That’s like, an awesome trick, and I’ve used that on “Hip-Hop Phenomenon,” “Fibonacci Sequence,” tons of tracks.

Anyway, they side-band compressed it to the kick drum. So you get this incredible, sucking sound on the “and,” so it’s like, bvvahhhbvvahh, like that. It pulls into every beat, and you hear it, and I swear to God you can listen to it on laptop speakers, so soft, and it feels like it’s gonna tear your head off. It’s ridiculous. It’s something I stole in a track I’m working on right now. It’s an awesome trick that you can apply to so many things. Side-band compressing an important synth sound, or a hooky lead synth to a loop is wicked sounding, man.

BT

[jonnyclueless]

Originally Posted by Lindell

They are using an Alesis 3630 and a Mackie 1604 (atleast on the first album).... no kidding

It certianly sounds like it. I love the song, but have to wear a vomit bag because of that compression on the whole mix. It makes me feel sea sick. They should really have released a version without that, it probably would have been much more successfl than it even was.

[shapemod]

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It certianly sounds like it. I love the song, but have to wear a vomit bag because of that compression on the whole mix. It makes me feel sea sick. They should really have released a version without that, it probably would have been much more successfl than it even was.

This is like you would prefer a version of Hendrix 'Foxy Lady' with less Feedback and less distorted guitars. Daft Punk and Clubmusic is not about HIFI!!! It's about energy and the DaftPunk Stuff works great on the Dancefloor!

[max cooper]

Ahhh... I was looking for that BT article. Thanks, tweaknadz.

[7 Hz]

I read that for the "Homework" album, daft punk were wanting a sound like USA radio, so they looked up what was used, and put the album thru that.

I bought "Homework", but all the shit after that went too far with that effect IMHO.

[jonnyclueless]

Originally Posted by shapemod

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This is like you would prefer a version of Hendrix 'Foxy Lady' with less Feedback and less distorted guitars. Daft Punk and Clubmusic is not about HIFI!!! It's about energy and the DaftPunk Stuff works great on the Dancefloor!

Bullcrap, we're not talking about hifi, we're talking about listenable. When I say I get seasick, I am not being smart, I am saying I honestly feel naucious from the constant pumping. Bad and lofi are not the same thing. And I honestly believe it would pump a lot more and work a lot better on the dance floor if they hadn't done that. Foxy ady wasn't so full of feedback it was drowning everything else out, it was done with taste. :=D

[shapemod]

First of all, most of us are talking about 'Homework', DaftPunks first album and this one isn't so much on the extrem than 'Discovery', that is really on the edge to have too much comression overhypedradiobitcrushsounds etc. What I want to say:
This guys are mixing their stuff themselfes and it's not by accident that they use that much of comprssion, it's part of what they want to express with their music, that's why I compared it to Feedback, Distortion and Hendrix!

[TedF]

Mis-use one of mine.
(But please don't pass it on.)

[Billster]

I use the eventide clockworks omnipressor plug for this kind of pumping sound. Nice aggressive sound. If I want it softer I use the Vari-Mu.

Bill