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Old 22nd June 2009   #1
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hardware insert to balanced patch bay question

hey guys,
bit of a noodle scratcher.
so i'm soldering my inserts. they look like this:



and they're going to connect to 2 balanced bantam patch sockets, one for send, one for return (basically a Y cable).

the patch bay has 3 pins on the back of each socket to solder to as shown in my diagram- lets say this is my send socket
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should i connect the socket:
a) without the ground A connected
b) without the ring B connected
c) with all 3 connected but at the insert jack end, the A and B would both be connected to ground

please note that my insert jack has the tip as return also note that the patch bay will be connected to balanced outboard.


I've generally used method c) in the past.
what say you slutz?
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ok....
you need 2 sockets both rows (upper and lower) for one channel of AUX
wire the + signal to the tip of the balanced socket
and the earth to the earth
do not connect the - signal of the patchbay
if you use non transformer balanced gear *that cannot see an unbalanced input (at it's own output)
balance the send and returns before going into the patchbay

half normalise the connections on the patchbay
(insert cable into top socket breaks the connection, insert cable into lower socket doesn't break the connection)

top row socket one
send from mixer

bottom row socket one
input of FX machine

top row socket two
output of FX machine

bottom row of socket two
return to mixer

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cheers! we're on the same wave-length! i was thinking the answer has to be (b)

EDIT: re normalising. yea i am of course going to semi-normalise, didn't want to add that info as it could complicate the problem.
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