Dangerous D-Box Summing Quality

[Keith Moore]

How good do you think the summing is in the D-Box? I have it, I use it, I like my mix's but am wondering if there's something else I should be summing through. I bought the D-Box mainly for the monitor control but am taking advantage of the summing option because it's there.

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[Phroggy]

Originally Posted by Keith Moore

How good do you think the summing is in the D-Box? I have it, I use it, I like my mix's but am wondering if there's something else I should be summing through. I bought the D-Box mainly for the monitor control but am taking advantage of the summing option because it's there.

dfegad

Would like to know about this as well.

[tomdarude]

if you´re okay with 8ch. (or don´t have more D/A´s anyway) the summing in the d-box is perfectly fine!

it´s pretty much half of a Dangerous 2-Bus LT so to speak!

don´t worry about the summing, start adding outboard in front or after the d-box 8-2!


try an API 2500 / a fatso on drums, a Sta-Level or Retro 176 on vocals and or bass or a Chandler Curve Bender the master out for a nice touch to your mixes e.g.

money and thoughts better spent imho.

[Jim Williams]

Consider opening it up and dropping some new IC's in there. They used a BB chipset, including the INA input amps, the DRV output amps and a OPA134 opamp as the suming opamp. The that 1646? output driver is an improved replacement and a great single opamp can be used for the OPA134. Try a LT1357, AD8597, OPA211, OPA827, ADA-4898-1 etc. Some are S0-8 only and require an adaptor.

Jim Williams
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[Doc Mixwell]

Originally Posted by Keith Moore

How good do you think the summing is in the D-Box?

I think its great! It is, 1/2 a 2-buss LT summing amp, as suggested. What do you think? I think It has loads of headroom, sounds very wide, clean, without any color/inter modulation distortion in the amp. Its great when you start involving all your characterful outboard equipment.

I have it, I use it

Hmmmm......This would say to me you like it, but reading your post, it might be construed that you don't think its the dawgs dangelers.

I like my mix's but am wondering if there's something else I should be summing through.

This would squarely depend on your hopes/aspirations/goals for the sonic result of your MUSIC, which you have yet to start discussing with us. The only thing that matters is the music. If the DBOX ain't doing your music justice, let us help you find what will. But remember, this game is all about the magician, and not so much the wand, though you need the wand to wave some magic around. Of course there are other summing amps to be had, but what are talking about specifically? What do you want, texturally, or aesthetically? Would be the question to ask.

I bought the D-Box mainly for the monitor control but am taking advantage of the summing option because it's there.

Well, that's oK, but really, do you like it, or does it suck? I'm lost. The great thing about the DBOX is that its ALL of these things in 1RU, meant for the task at hand. Yes, there are better summing units, but the DBOX is a great piece of kit, that sounds really excellent to me.

[Keith Moore]

Thanks everybody for all your answers. I def like the way all my mix's are sounding. I've been summing everything through the D-Box then into my stereo VT-737sp's. I only ask about the quality because I never got to demo any other Summing units. As far as the mention of it being half of the 2bus lt, how does the 2bus lt compare to the original 2bus?

[Doc Mixwell]

Originally Posted by Keith Moore

Thanks everybody for all your answers. I def like the way all my mix's are sounding. I've been summing everything through the D-Box then into my stereo VT-737sp's. I only ask about the quality because I never got to demo any other Summing units. As far as the mention of it being half of the 2bus lt, how does the 2bus lt compare to the original 2bus?

The only difference between the 2-Bus and LT is the 2-bus offers a precise Stepped Volume control, the +6 switch, along with all XLR jacks. The LT has a continuously variable volume pot, with all DB25 for analog connections. They have the same amplifier topology, so the sonic quality and headroom spec are the same [without using the +6 switch of the DAN2BUS].

[Keith Moore]

Originally Posted by Roc Mixwell

The only difference between the 2-Bus and LT is the 2-bus offers a precise Stepped Volume control, the +6 switch, along with all XLR jacks. The LT has a continuously variable volume pot, with all DB25 for analog connections. They have the same amplifier topology, so the sonic quality and headroom spec are the same [without using the +6 switch of the DAN2BUS].

ok thanks. So essentially the D-Box is 8 channels of a 2bus + the monitoring features? Thanks again everybody. I'm feeling very glad with my purchase.

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[AMIEL]

Originally Posted by Keith Moore

ok thanks. So essentially the D-Box is 8 channels of a 2bus + the monitoring features? Thanks again everybody. I'm feeling very glad with my purchase.

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it is basically also the same sonic quality of the Dangerous ST Monitor Section, without the remote control .

The DBox is just such a great piece , excellent as summing box and monitor section.