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Old 27th May 2009   #31
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The Presonus Livestudio looks sweet but I wish they made it with lightpipe I/O because I don't want to part with my RME soundcard. USB/MIDI for controlling the DAW parameters would be sweet. They can still keep the firewire option if one would want to record live with a laptop etc.

Would be nice to bypass the internal pre's to and use my own stuff when recording. A couple of more aux sends, inserts on every channel...
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Old 27th May 2009   #32
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I don't suppose it would be possible to hear proper WAVs?
I can only upload 5megs at a time, sorry no wavs.
I'll look into the Furman, but I've seen boxes that mount on mic stands that have the monitor section built in. I looked up the furman and can't seem to figure out what it does, just seems like a digital box???

As far as the Presonus... I you can't bypas the pres I would not be interested. I have some high end stuff I'm keen on using.
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Examples of live in studio stuff I've done, these were all live to 2 track mixes (you can hear a couple bad fades here and there). Actually I think I got one extra pass on the Heavy because I only had the left channel of their samples, again why I said mix live but multitrack to cover your ass.

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search for artists: We Are Scientists, Antony and the Johnsons, The Heavy, The Submarines.

All the live tracks I engineered, there's video for We Are Scientists and The Heavy.
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I have the Furman HDS-6. and I love it! It sends the hp mix via ethernet cable to little remote boxes that clamp onto a mic stand. Everyone has their own box and can control their own volume. The boxes also daisy-chain, which is a great feature. The system can also set up four separate submixes, so each person can control their own mix.
Ok, its starting to make a bit more sense to me know.
How to you get Cubase to send 4 outs viat ethernet?
The Hearback system looks like the ticket too.
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Examples of live in studio stuff I've done, these were all live to 2 track mixes (you can hear a couple bad fades here and there). Actually I think I got one extra pass on the Heavy because I only had the left channel of their samples, again why I said mix live but multitrack to cover your ass.

My Rock Network - The Ultimate Online Rock Community

search for artists: We Are Scientists, Antony and the Johnsons, The Heavy, The Submarines.

All the live tracks I engineered, there's video for We Are Scientists and The Heavy.
Hey, I tried searching in My Rock Network, no go.
Do you have links? Thanks!
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Ok, its starting to make a bit more sense to me know.
How to you get Cubase to send 4 outs viat ethernet?
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The ethernet connection is used to connect the base station to the individual musician's headphone stations. We used to use a Mackie Onyx mixer, and assign an aux send for each instrument. That is, drums were on aux 1, Bass on aux 2, guitars/keys on aux 3, and vox on aux 4. Then we sent the individual aux mixes to the corresponding inputs on the HDS6. Then you connect the HDS6 base station to the HD headphone stations via ethernet. Then the musician has a knob for each instrument, and can mix each instrument at his station as he pleases... And you can daisy chain them off of each other (up to six I think). So it's very easy to set up, and alot less hassle than having to do the headphone mix for each musician yourself...

Just research it on the net. I can tell you from experience that it is awesome from a musicians point of view. I HATE having to constantly ask for changes in my headphones...
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The ethernet connection is used to connect the base station to the individual musician's headphone stations. We used to use a Mackie Onyx mixer, and assign an aux send for each instrument. That is, drums were on aux 1, Bass on aux 2, guitars/keys on aux 3, and vox on aux 4. Then we sent the individual aux mixes to the corresponding inputs on the HDS6. Then you connect the HDS6 base station to the HD headphone stations via ethernet. Then the musician has a knob for each instrument, and can mix each instrument at his station as he pleases... And you can daisy chain them off of each other (up to six I think). So it's very easy to set up, and alot less hassle than having to do the headphone mix for each musician yourself...

Just research it on the net. I can tell you from experience that it is awesome from a musicians point of view. I HATE having to constantly ask for changes in my headphones...
now it makes sense, gottcha!
Yeah, next investment is going to be heaphone stations for each musician, thanks!
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search artists, unfortunately I tried to post links but it all comes up as my rock network, i guess it's an imbedded unstealable type thing. I'm looking at it right now, it's in the center of the page under search there's artists, click on that and type in the names.

Sorry, I have no control over this page and it's kinda annoying.
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Ok, so I updated 2 things in my studio thanks to some GS feedback.
I wall mounted my snakes in the band room and vocal booth.
The 24 channel snake is permenately connected to the headphone amp in the band room.
I racked the headphone amp with a tuner, sweet!
I did the same in the vocal booth.

Thanks to a tip from tINY, I used L brackets to wall mount these puppies.
I feel like a pro now, I've got mic inputs in the wall!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then I ran both snake ends into the control room patchbay.
I spent 4 days rewiring the studio feeds but it should pay off.
Gonna have to raise the rates at leat $1 per hour for all that work

It should take off some setup time seeing as though I don't have to pull the headphone amp back into the band room (Its also doubles as an hourly rehearsal with PA). It keeps stuff off the floor, I'm stoked!

We have 4 Live band sessions this week, I'll let you know how goes it!

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