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#91 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Eagle Rock, CA
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Originally Posted by Zooben  He did insist on running everything through this weird black box he called the Vertical Extrapolater... | just watch, a cardboard (empty) box will suddenly go up on ebay as a "vertical extrapolater" for 500 bucks and the auction will end at 1900
that reminds me of when we used to send runners out for "drum strings" or have them call rental companies for an spx90 with the "tennis racket mod"
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#92 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Eagle Rock, CA
Posts: 258
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Originally Posted by Zooben WHOA!! Thomas! Laying it on thick!! Oh man am I in trouble. 
Thank you for that rush pair. Tre is now a proud owner of his very own set of Barefoots.
It's nice to see you here. We must catch up for a beer when I get back in town!
As always keep up the great work!!
-Chris | +1 for the Barefoot micromains. sounds like the great product is backed by great support... win-win situation...
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#93 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles
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Chris,
Thanks so much for all of this info, it's great that an amazing engineer would share such secrets with the slutz. Been a fan of Green Day since the 1039/smooth disc..
Joshua
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#94 | | Gear addict
Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Palm Harbor, FL
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Chris,
Awesome job man. I must ask though, about the 414's being used on electric guitar...How loud was the amp and how much gain was used? I have a pair of 414 b-uls, but never ever tried them on an amp, always scared I would fry them. Also, were most of the songs written before tracking or did they write the album in the studio?
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#95 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 852
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Vertical Extrapolater ??? what is that unit?? or is just an studio joke?
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#96 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 158
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#97 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jan 2003 Location: Wisconsin,USA
Posts: 270
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Originally Posted by zak7 Vertical Extrapolater ??? what is that unit?? or is just an studio joke? |
Joke. I think.
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#98 | | Gear Head
Joined: May 2009 Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 61
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Originally Posted by bryancook are you not a fan of the delcon? everyone i've talked to says the console sounds equally as amazing as the room its paired with.
just to echo everyone else, great work. | yeah well I'm not a big fan. The "Dalcon", athough made very clean and nice, was not my thing. I saw it as a bit to clean. Not trying to sound stupid but I like the coloration different preamps have. It was perfect to monitor playback through. AND had tons of API EQ  !!
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#99 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: Beverly Kills |
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#100 | | Gear Head
Joined: May 2009 Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 61
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Originally Posted by alexamk Chris,
Awesome job man. I must ask though, about the 414's being used on electric guitar...How loud was the amp and how much gain was used? I have a pair of 414 b-uls, but never ever tried them on an amp, always scared I would fry them. Also, were most of the songs written before tracking or did they write the album in the studio? | Yeah use your 414's with the pad if you're concerned, they can handle it.  <==what is this?  <====or this? these "smilies" are killing me!
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15th May 2009
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#101 | | Gear interested
Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Beantown
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Just listened to the record front to back. Wow. I mean thats all i can really say. Good f&#king job man. Oh, and Chris Lord-Alge is a beast...
thumbsupthumbsupthumbsup
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#102 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Nov 2008 Location: Germany, Europe
Posts: 576
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Originally Posted by chrislago If Butch Vig starts answering questions here, I might crap my pants. | He's been here some years ago answering some questions. I think it was about the Pumpkins.
I'd also love to see him here! *waits*
hey, it's my birthday so come on!
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#103 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2009 Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 4,471
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Originally Posted by Ciaccona He's been here some years ago answering some questions. I think it was about the Pumpkins.
I'd also love to see him here! *waits*
hey, it's my birthday so come on! | HAPPY B-DAY Ciaccona thumbsup  | |
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#104 | | Gear addict
Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Palm Harbor, FL
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Chris,
I bought the cd this morning and then listened to half of it while taking my son to school. OMG those are the best drums I have ever heard! The whole album kicks some major ass. I think this is going to be my new reference cd . What pres did you use for the drums? Thanks for all of your posts, they have been very helpful.
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#105 | | Gear addict
Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Palm Harbor, FL
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Oh yeah on more question Chris, does Butch plan on continuing Garbage? What I great band, they actually inspired me to use the studio as an instrument.
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#106 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2006 Location: Chicago | Quote:
Originally Posted by alexamk Chris,
I bought the cd this morning and then listened to half of it while taking my son to school. OMG those are the best drums I have ever heard! The whole album kicks some major ass. I think this is going to be my new reference cd . What pres did you use for the drums? Thanks for all of your posts, they have been very helpful. | Yes, those drums are amazing sounding. Sick!
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#107 | | Locked away
Joined: Jan 2008 Location: In the shed
Posts: 1,005
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Yeah, I got it!!!
Very, very cool album! So much impact, and what a great job!
I feel its a real masterpiece on the engineering side of things!
Thanks for that!
Cheers!
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#108 | | Guitar/Vox of Skyway Ave.
Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Bournemouth, UK
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One last question, does Billie double track his vocals often or is that a post-effect?
Thank you soo much
Mike
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#109 | | Gear addict
Joined: Dec 2007
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Great, loud, clear, and crunchy. One of the better engineered new albums I've heard in awhile. Thanks for sharing and giving me some more food for thought on recording guitars.
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#110 | | Gear Head
Joined: May 2009 Location: Oakland, CA
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It's great to hear you guys are enjoying the record. I'm headed out to officially buy mine now.
Got questions for Butch? Post them.
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#111 | | Gear addict
Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Palm Harbor, FL
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Chris,
How many tracks per song on this record did you guys have?
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15th May 2009
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#112 | | Gear addict
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 300
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Chris...
Good thread you've started here!
We we're having a great slutty conversation last night over a few drinks, until we were rudely interrupted by Tre Cool!
Jules has asked me to do a Q & A session, probably starting in June. I'll try to chime in with a few comments until then.
Glad some of you like 21st Century Breakdown!
We worked f**king hard on it!
BV
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#113 | | Guitar/Vox of Skyway Ave.
Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Bournemouth, UK
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Woah hey Butch. Huge fan of your work. Just finished up listening to the record. I LOVE East Jesus Nowhere and Little Girl. Excellent songwriting and perfect engineering. You guys are legends. Will definitely get some questions lined up for you in the near future
I really appreciate everything you guys are doing, it's awesome.
Thanks so much
Mike MySpace UK | |
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#114 | | Gear addict
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 300
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Originally Posted by zak7 Vertical Extrapolater ??? what is that unit?? or is just an studio joke? | It's a joke! Years ago, we had a journalist at Smart Studios, we were playing rough mixes of a Garbage album, and we had a lot of custom outboard gear laying around the control room.
I don't remember what song it was, but when he asked "how we got that sound" I pointed to a black box in the rack and said "we run it all through the vertical extrapolater"...
and I think he believed us!
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15th May 2009
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#115 | | Gear addict
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 300
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Originally Posted by MikeTSH Woah hey Butch. Huge fan of your work. Just finished up listening to the record. I LOVE East Jesus Nowhere and Little Girl. Excellent songwriting and perfect engineering. You guys are legends. Will definitely get some questions lined up for you in the near future
I really appreciate everything you guys are doing, it's awesome.
Thanks so much
Mike MySpace UK | East Jesus Nowhere is one of my fave songs on the new album.
I has a crazy arrangement, and the boys put down a CRUSHING groove!
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15th May 2009
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#116 | | Gear nut
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 105
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Just a heads up if anyone was going to buy mp3s instead of the CD, Amazon is selling the whole album digital release for $4.99 today.
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#117 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,354
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Hi Butch and Chris. Thanks for coming here and joining us.
Would either of you be able to share with us the order which you recorded the songs for 21st Century Breakdown. And were any songs tracked live?
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15th May 2009
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#118 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 219
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Butch, the album sounds great. Kudos to you and Chris. Also thank you for Nevermind. I used to listen to that album everyday when I was a young kid. I didn't know what a record producer was at the time, but I knew the name Butch Vig. Keep on keepin on brotha.  | |
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#119 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Birmingham, UK
Posts: 175
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butch and chris, great work on the album, looked over your drum and guitar techs, really cool to know how everything is done.
where was the drums and guitars recorded?
i think the toms sound fantastic!
D
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#120 | | Gear interested
Joined: Oct 2006 Location: Oakland, CA
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Hi Dugan,
Nice work on the record! I usually only lurk and read, but seeing you on GS I had to chime in on some props to a old friend! I'm glad all you guys are enjoying the 27's and clearly putting them to excellent use! I'm in on the beer meeting!
-Suzanne
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