Beesneez James vs Jade ? same mic ?

[jlsgear]

In comparing the Jade and James ... I can't figure out what the technical differences are ... of course the James has that SOR switch and pads ...

But aside from those switches - aren't they the same mic in terms of parts ? ie capsule and caps , components ??

The other thing is , why would the Jade be housed in a different sized body ? is there a technical reason for this ??

Thanks all.

[hobson]

check this GS posting from Anguswoodhead with attached PDF review of all (3) Beez Neez Microphones: Jade / James / Arabella.

[mics]

Originally Posted by jlsgear

In comparing the Jade and James ... I can't figure out what the technical differences are ... of course the James has that SOR switch and pads ...

But aside from those switches - aren't they the same mic in terms of parts ? ie capsule and caps , components ??

The other thing is , why would the Jade be housed in a different sized body ? is there a technical reason for this ??

Thanks all.

Hi there, how are you?

The Jade and James are very different microphones, the only commonality between the 2 is the transformer, other than that, all is very different.

The Jade uses a Subminiature Pentode Tube, the James uses a Dual Triode Miniature tube.

The Jade has a standard K47 Single backplate capsule, the James uses a Very modified version of the K47 Capsule.

The Characters of these microphones are totally different and could not be any more sonically different. I hiope this helps.

cheers.

[jlsgear]

Hi Ben,

I've read in the past about M7 and K47 capsules ... and it seemed that the M7 sound is more what Im looking for ...

I know your capsules are K47'ish ... but perhaps one model is closer in sound to an M7 based mic.

ie. Since the mic would be for male vocals ... I'd be interested in the mic that had the warmer sound of the two - (bigger bottom) and perhaps the most proxity effect .

Last but not least, since my pre is colourless (AEA TRP), the more colour in the mic the better!!

Thanks, John.

[lynyrd]

I'm curious to see which mic Ben recommends for you.

[jlsgear]

I should also add that the type of recordings is roots/folk with usually SPARE mixes ... so I don't need a mic that has to cut thru so much.

So A mic that throws a bigger image for my vocals is always what I'm after.

Thanks again,
Jls.

[mics]

hi again. I thinkk that if you are an M7 fan, then a Jade with a small modification will be the trick. I'll just add a few components to tailor the frequency response for you.

cheers.

[jlsgear]

Thanks Ben,

When I get my tx refund cheq in the mail I'll likely be giving you a call ... although shipping costs are an issue ESPECIALLY if the mic has to go back for whatever reasons (for waranty repair or simple disatisfaction).

Along those lines ... Are there any US or Canadian distribution/dealership possibilities in the near future ??

Jls.

[MadGuitrst]

I sent a Sebatron mic preamp for repair to Australia (What GREAT service from Sebatron, the best I've ever experienced).

UPS and FedEx were/are very expensive.
The estimate I got was around $240.

The United States Postal Service (USPS) was only $60, not much more than the shipping estimate for California (I live in Philadelphia, PA). The preamp arrived in 5 days, around the same amount of time to get to California (UPS is down to about 4 days now now from east to west coasts).

[jlsgear]

USPS is good for us Canadians too ...

Having said that, lets say the shipping from Australia is 130 usd each way ... (not sure ben has cheaper options).

I don't like the sound for some reason ... back it goes for 130 usd ... so I'd be 260 usd = $304 Canadian bucks.

Thats not including duty which may be another $80 lost ... so if there's a cheaper way of getting it here i'm all ears ... something like USPS PRIORITY (or equal).

This clearly has to be considered for purchase - Ben's mics are probably worth the risk tho (-:

jls.

[MadGuitrst]

USPS would be about $60.

For Australia, if the gear is returned for warranty, and the dollar amount is no more than say $400 , it should not be a problem on either end and the shipping should still be affordable.

Now, the issue is whether or not USPS could be used from the Australian side.
Australia Post is certainly less expensive than UPS and FedEx.

Anyway, I have to run now and take my daughter out to play......
I'll look into this further. That said: Ben, if you've already done this, let me know.

[mics]

Shipping is usually pretty good. The 130 i charge is also includung full insurance which takes up $35 of the shipping cost per microphone. I am yet to have anyone that has had to pay duties on the mics when they land.

cheers

[shobud]

Hey jls,
I'm in Ottawa as well (maybe we know each other???) and was thinking of one of Ben's mics as well. If you get one can you let me know how it goes?
email me at teleDOTthinlineAThotmail.com
I'm assuming you have a studio in town?

Dan

[lynyrd]

I am in Canada (Calgary) and I can tell you fellow Canucks that are worried about duty that I paid a small fee (I can't remember but it seems to me it was only about15- 20 bucks) on my Jade, certainly worth it. You have to remember, say Ben got a Canadian distributor for his products. That distributor is only going to pay any taxes or duties up front and pass on the expense to you, hidden in the retail price. By the way, its too bad you both live in Ottawa, I'd be more than happy to let you check out my Jade first hand.Any Slutz in Calgary, if you are interested in the Beesneez Jade, give me a shout, we'll do some shootouts or something.

[jlsgear]

Hi ya,

Do you recall how long shipping took ? ie. shipping only not including build time ...

Gear from the states usually takes 8-10 biz days using USPS PRIORITY.

And your shipping was 130 + 20 USD ?

thanks,
jls.

Originally Posted by lynyrd

I am in Canada (Calgary) and I can tell you fellow Canucks that are worried about duty that I paid a small fee (I can't remember but it seems to me it was only about15- 20 bucks) on my Jade, certainly worth it. You have to remember, say Ben got a Canadian distributor for his products. That distributor is only going to pay any taxes or duties up front and pass on the expense to you, hidden in the retail price. By the way, its too bad you both live in Ottawa, I'd be more than happy to let you check out my Jade first hand.Any Slutz in Calgary, if you are interested in the Beesneez Jade, give me a shout, we'll do some shootouts or something.

[mics]

Originally Posted by jlsgear

Hi ya,

Do you recall how long shipping took ? ie. shipping only not including build time ...

Gear from the states usually takes 8-10 biz days using USPS PRIORITY.

And your shipping was 130 + 20 USD ?

thanks,
jls.

Shipping is 130 flat. normally 7-8 days. Good news is that we are increasing staff over the next few weeks meaning that each mic should be in stock and shipping within 7 days of the order placement!

[Kronos147]

Originally Posted by mics

Good news is that we are increasing staff over the next few weeks

That is truly (big picture) good new, sir. Congratulations.

[JoFo]

Hi Ben. Same boat here, and wondering about the difference in your Jade VS James. Which would you recommend more for Vocals, specifically female? No punk rock or anything here, just looking for a very natural sound for a good vocalist.

cheers,

joel

[Recording David]

Originally Posted by mics

I am yet to have anyone that has had to pay duties on the mics when they land.

FYI I had to pay duty on my Jade when it arrived in the UK. About £40 if I remember correctly.

Loving the mic, by the way.

thumbsup

[PlugHead]

IME, the cheapest method to send a mic (in hardshell case) to Ben was $80 (via CanPost/surface) no tracking #. The fact that it never arrived (4+ months now) makes me question actually using this service again. Good thing it was a cheap chinese tube mic!

You will pay HST on declared value of any incoming x-border items. Whether there are brokerage fees depends on the carrier.

I hope this helps,

[bigbone]

I'm canadian, and there are not duty when you buy microphone from outside country,and that info come form the custom agency. i was part of a group buy a couple of years ago, and i was afraid of the duty, i call the canadian custom, and this is what one of the officer
told me, so i didn't pay any duty on the mic. unless that law change in the last year. NO duty on microphone for the canadian.......

[bigbone]

Originally Posted by lynyrd

I am in Canada (Calgary) and I can tell you fellow Canucks that are worried about duty that I paid a small fee (I can't remember but it seems to me it was only about15- 20 bucks) on my Jade, certainly worth it. You have to remember, say Ben got a Canadian distributor for his products. That distributor is only going to pay any taxes or duties up front and pass on the expense to you, hidden in the retail price. By the way, its too bad you both live in Ottawa, I'd be more than happy to let you check out my Jade first hand.Any Slutz in Calgary, if you are interested in the Beesneez Jade, give me a shout, we'll do some shootouts or something.

Like i said in my post, if you pay duty, you were not suppose to, give a call to the custom agency, they will explain it..........

[bigbone]

You don't pay duty, but you do pay tax GST AND PST , to make it clear

[mics]

Originally Posted by joeldadrummer

Hi Ben. Same boat here, and wondering about the difference in your Jade VS James. Which would you recommend more for Vocals, specifically female? No punk rock or anything here, just looking for a very natural sound for a good vocalist.

cheers,

joel

Hi Joel, the Jade does work very well for female vox (modern type sound) an dthe James will work well if you are looking for that sultry timbre.

cheers

[lynyrd]

Just to clarify, I paid a small fee for my mic when it arrived, but perhaps it was GST, not duty. Sorry for the confusion. Once again though, one thing that is clear , these mics sound really good. Cheers!

[jlsgear]

Canucks ... did Ben's mic arrive via UPS or FEDEX or some other carrier ?

Those guys can charge significant BROKER's fees if the service type was not a premium one ... sometimes not always ...

jls.

[JoFo]

Originally Posted by jlsgear

Canucks ... did Ben's mic arrive via UPS or FEDEX or some other carrier ?

Those guys can charge significant BROKER's fees if the service type was not a premium one ... sometimes not always ...

jls.

agreed. Everytime something has been shipped to me Via UPS into canada they charge ridiculous "brokerage" fees, even when there is No duty on the item you've ordered.
SO I'd be curious to know how the mic was shipped as well.

[lynyrd]

The mic arrived here in Calgary via a carrier other than UPS or Fedex. I hate UPS, they absolutely rip us Canadians of with ridiculous brokerage fees. As I said before in a previous post, there was only a small charge on the mic and I believe that to be GST, there was no duty and no brokerage fee. Buy yourself a Beesneez mic and be happy! It will be like Christmas time when it arrives.

Originally Posted by jlsgear

Canucks ... did Ben's mic arrive via UPS or FEDEX or some other carrier ?

Those guys can charge significant BROKER's fees if the service type was not a premium one ... sometimes not always ...

jls.