Allen & Heath Zed GSR24

[tyco]

The ZED R24 is under development!
I've recently confirmed this with A&H. (only going by what I was told)
May not be surprising to anyone, but it is good news.
I suggested an optional meter bridge. (may be built in)
Suggested min 4-6 post fader aux sends?
Asked for the ADAT interface to be optional?
Suggested 0-8 pres standard, sounds like 24 pres standard.
It all sounds promissing. Another option to ATB & Ghost.
We'll see how it all shakes down.
Anyone interested in this?

[Ciozzi]

The ZED 16 is a screaming deal for the money...a big thumb up for this product!

[Jeffguitar]

Zed preamps vs Onyx, that's what I want to know.

[tribeojudah]

I'm definitely interested. 100mm faders would be great. But I'm curious to how the preamps compare to other mixers like the Yamaha N12. My only concern is the cost. I'm not an engineer but I hear how great a value the R16 is. But $3000 is out of reach for a lot of people. I think that 's why many are snapping up the N12. It's affordable. I've heard only great things about Allen & Heath and would love to invest in their products but most people I know couldn't even afford the AMS payment plan for a Zed R16. I guess they are just out of my league.

[TRW]

I have heard they will use 100mm faders, there will be subgroups and I think they may also be working on moving fader auto...

-T

[tommy lee]

Originally Posted by Jeffguitar

Zed preamps vs Onyx, that's what I want to know.

Me too

[caledoniamission]

I'd like to see a Zed r8, for us who can't afford the r16 or r24.

[Phaidon]

Originally Posted by TRW

I have heard they will use 100mm faders, there will be subgroups and I think they may also be working on moving fader auto...

-T

All true....(not sure about the subgrps though)

[Vum]

In my opinion the Zed stomps all over the Onyx and Yamaha pres as do the EQs.

[TurboJets]

FWIW I can't stop using the ZED pres on my 14, they just sound too good. I wasn't expecting that to be the situation when I first bought the board. I was just looking for a solution that would allow me to get back to mixing OTB instead of ITB (which got to be boring, even with my UAD1 setup). I wanted a board where the pre's would be usable but wasn't even counting on the pre's being so sweet. The EQ has been a huge surprise as well. The range of sweep for the mids was very alluring and had a lot to do with my decision for the ZED14 but I've found the EQ to be extremely txparent, quiet, and exceeding my expectations...eliminating my search for a rackmount EQ for mixing.

In '07 I had the chance to hear a new large console by a major manufacturer/designer that was coming into production phase and I've been wanting to publicly compare the ZED pre's to those of that particular console but won't (for fear of ridicule, LOL). Anyone interested in the ZED line really should audition the model that suits their needs, it's worth it.

[Phaidon]

Originally Posted by Vum

In my opinion the Zed stomps all over the Onyx and Yamaha pres as do the EQs.

No doubt about it!thumbsup

[Kvesper]

Zed R16 rocks!! I've done several recordings, and summing mixdowns on it already. The preamps are solid, and I even prefer the sound over some of my more costly pre's. Eagerly awaiting the R24

[rolandman]

The R16 preamps are Allen&Heath's top of the line preamps. I don't know if this is true about the rest of the Zed family.

I bought an R16 recently and it makes the yamaha preamps sound... well puny. Don't get me wrong I like yamaha. But it's the typical difference between a British sound and a Japanese sound.
The Eq on the Zed is much more colorful than anything in the price range. It's set up almost exactly like the soundcraft ghost, but I personally think it sounds much better. (probably because it's newer)

Hope this helps!!

[F5D]

I've been waiting for this also. However, I would like more to see a new allen heath mixer without firewire and midi or moving faders, for example an upgraded GL3800 with the r16 parametric eq (why give it only with the budget zed series?).

[lovekrafty]

I've been communicating with Mike at Allen & Heath about the R24, without giving too much away ( per Mikes Request ), I think you'll all be blown away.

It's quite obvious Mike has listened to a lot of the requests here.

My first impression was " Damn, where's the kitchen sink ".

There are some surprizes on the way guys.

Cheers
LK

[rolandman]

lovekrafty. You're mean. That comment is like shaking a steak in front of a chained pitbull.


...but I'm glad to hear it's got the "WOW!" factor vote from you.

[RKrizman]

I was looking at the back of the Zed r16 and only saw firewire plugs. Are there no analog ins and outs?

-R

[soundrage]

Originally Posted by RKrizman

I was looking at the back of the Zed r16 and only saw firewire plugs. Are there no analog ins and outs?

-R

Aren't they on the top?

[RKrizman]

Doh!

[Adlen]

If they add 100mm faders, subgroups, motorized faders and a kitchen sink I will get a credit card and buy one! How I pay that off can be thought of after I drool all over it! Wouldn't mind them removing the ADAT interface. Would make it cheaper, right?

[mitchiemasha]

I bought my zed desk to find only 1 disapointment, a few months later they released the firewire range.

this new version sounds like another winner.

[highsage]

I'm already a satisfied R16 owner...but, dare I ask...do we have a rough time-frame for first run of the R24's? Winter NAMM maybe? I'll bring an inch of $50's with me if so!

Originally Posted by lovekrafty

I've been communicating with Mike at Allen & Heath about the R24, without giving too much away ( per Mikes Request ), I think you'll all be blown away.

It's quite obvious Mike has listened to a lot of the requests here.

My first impression was " Damn, where's the kitchen sink ".

There are some surprizes on the way guys.

Cheers
LK

[asagaai]

Originally Posted by Adlen

If they add 100mm faders, subgroups, motorized faders and a kitchen sink I will get a credit card and buy one! How I pay that off can be thought of after I drool all over it! Wouldn't mind them removing the ADAT interface. Would make it cheaper, right?

I hope Allen and Heath has some flexibility for us guys who want to use quality converters and want to use board in tracking with our own pres (I have some 11 top line pres) so I would like to see the option of speccing the board with say 12 pres from Allen and Heath for the tracking, balance of 12 line ins so I can use my own outboard boutique pres..

For myself I would like to have the option of not getting the inboard converters so to use the board with external high quality converters- so analog ins and outs for DAW. Also crucial wordclock to slave to master clock for the board with converters.

This is looking like a real contender-was thinking of going X desk- but I usually track 10 to 12 channels so with X desk I would need 2 and with 2 masters its all a bit inelegant- and then you need to work out outboard eq.

Hmm- very tempted by this- made in England, solid build looking like the equivalent of SSL, Mike from Allen & Heath looks a very decent professional guy --- what is the word on the way the unit sums a mix ie how would it compare with X Desk on the summing width/depth/punch.

Any comments on guys using the Z16??

I really hope Allen and Heath slot this- Toft ATB is chinese, iffy quality and little muddy etc, Oram well- I have no faith in delivery or long term quality or backup service- the market is screaming for a solid desk like this that is in the quality zone of SSL but more sane on price for a full all in eq'd board.

Waiting very interested on this one- so what is the feedback on teh summing sonics and eq of this board???


GJ
Newcastle/OZ

[roc]

Any news on Zed R-24, its been about a year now hasnt it.
Really looking forward to any info on this groundbreaking mixer.

Peace

[jonnathaniel]

I've been thinking about getting a propper console for my studio for a while now, to step up the game, sick of interfacesdfegad Zed R-16 is great, however i need somethin more serious, so I wait for the R-24.
It's hard to control my gearlust when I see a nice good console on eBay, so this better be worth the wait!. I hope the price tag won't blow me away. The Zed-r16 seems to be really good value for money. The could really make a serious killer hybrid console for the masses. Hope nothing goes wrong

[fragletrollet]

But please, make all those pre`s optional. I dont want to pay for 20 preamps Ill never use... Not all music is recorded

[SUCHOJ]

here is my wish list for ZED24:
1) for me would be enough that the upgrade will be 4 full equipped stereo channels, becuase for my purpose I need more inputs, but not more mic preamps.
2) The full quality converters on the master I/O (its quite tricky that R16 has different quality converters on the master compared to the rest of the channels...)
3) 100 mm motorized faders (with the memory effect - when switch off the midi, fader might jump to the previous analog position and vice versa)
4) resolved all problems with FW disconecting (I hope its the history now)
5) optional meterbridge (to keep the price possibly as low as possible for normal users)
6) full generic remote support for Cubase etc., because setting up the MIDI is quite boring...
7) one button for selecting ALL faders to MIDI control
8) gleamless surface
9) subgroups
10) Wordclock
11) six auxes
12) optional adat ( to keep the price as low as possible for users who dont use ADAT)
13) all 24 channels in 96kHz

Than this will be dream machine for me!

[F5D]

I believe the r24 will have both adat and fw. There's no sense to leave the adat away if the fw is there because adat itself does not add almost anything to the cost. The fw and the drivers are more expensive to do. If the R24 will use fw, it will be on the limit of the fw bus anyway. I don't know any other product in the market that will use as many fw channels at the same time. Even TC Electronic do not use so many fw channels with the Dice in their products. If I end up purchasing the R24, I will use it with RME Raydat (4x adat, spdif, aes/ebu and midi i/o). It will provide far better latency, cpu usage and stability than any product using firewire. If the fw connection ends up being not stable enough with so many streams, just keep the adat and the product will still sell very well.

[Brian Cares]

I always get a heartattack when reading the phrase "zed r24"
Although its not been released yet and there is literally zero information
on it, i strongly believe that this will be my new mixer

[Cody]

I remember seeing the R16 in SOS a long while back and thinking a 24 channel box would get my money. Especially if there was fader automation... my god, how sweet that would be. Fingers crossed for some news soon!