Allen & Heath Zed GSR24

[Nick Adams]

I've just bought a ssl xlogic g-series stereo compressor (some good deals out there) and I am wondering which way is the best to connect to the gsr24? I've never used an external compressor so any advice on setup would be great. Also the connectors on the back of the compressor are xlr so I'm guessing I will have to go xlr to jack. Should these be balanced or unbalanced leads?

[Adlen]

Originally Posted by Nick Adams

I've just bought a ssl xlogic g-series stereo compressor (some good deals out there) and I am wondering which way is the best to connect to the gsr24? I've never used an external compressor so any advice on setup would be great. Also the connectors on the back of the compressor are xlr so I'm guessing I will have to go xlr to jack. Should these be balanced or unbalanced leads?

Depends what you want to use it for. You'd need a 2 TRS Jack to 2x XLR leads, wired as an insert, or a standard insert leads and 4 XLR adapters (2 male, 2 female).

To use it on 2 single channels you'd connect it to the channel inserts of the console.

You could use it for group compression (great for drums) by sending all the signals you want compressed to 2 of the 4 groups and connecting the compressor to the group inserts.

Or you could use it on the master inserts, for compressing your whole mix.

If you want to do one thing one day and another the next, it might be worth investing in patchbays and looms

[superiorsound]

Originally Posted by Nick Adams

I've just bought a ssl xlogic g-series stereo compressor (some good deals out there) and I am wondering which way is the best to connect to the gsr24? I've never used an external compressor so any advice on setup would be great. Also the connectors on the back of the compressor are xlr so I'm guessing I will have to go xlr to jack. Should these be balanced or unbalanced leads?

insert it youll need a y cable. I use it like that works pretty darn good

[Nick Adams]

Hey thanks for the replies, it has confirmed a few thoughts I had. As I also make a bit of electronic music through the desk I am thinking about setting the compressor through the auxes. Thinking about sending a signal from the kick channel to the side chain on the compressor, assigning certain channels I want compressing by using the auxes and then returning the the compressor signal to say channel 27-28 or the group returns maybe. Aiming for that sucking effect created from side chaining. Do you think this is a good way to utilise the compressor? Thanks

[ChrisWebbMusic]

Hey guys,

I just installed my GS-R24 into my home studio, all connected to patch bay etc.

I think I might be having a blonde moment though, I'm trying to playback music from my mac, (iTunes & youtube etc), as useful reference and although my mac recognises the desk, when I select the output option to GS-R24 from 'inbuilt' audio I get silence...nothing com in through my monitors...

Help? lol

cheers

c

[Nick Adams]

So in system preferences> sound > output. You should have Allen and Heath FireWire selected.

On channels 1 and 2 of the desk you should have button B pressed in and L&R of course.

That's how I've got it set up anyways!

[ChrisWebbMusic]

Originally Posted by Nick Adams

So in system preferences> sound > output. You should have Allen and Heath FireWire selected.

On channels 1 and 2 of the desk you should have button B pressed in and L&R of course.

That's how I've got it set up anyways!

ah thank you sir!!

[TrackLab]

the amount of videos on this unit is less than a handful... albeit the buzz about it..
i have purchased one and due to delays in my control room build i still have not had the chance to break it out the box!

is there any owners of this unit using it with logic at all?
if so, pls do a video for the new owners to see your set up, how your working with it and maybe some info on what you did to overcome any issues?

[theriotwithin]

Originally Posted by ChrisWebbMusic

Hey guys,

I just installed my GS-R24 into my home studio, all connected to patch bay etc.

I think I might be having a blonde moment though, I'm trying to playback music from my mac, (iTunes & youtube etc), as useful reference and although my mac recognises the desk, when I select the output option to GS-R24 from 'inbuilt' audio I get silence...nothing com in through my monitors...

Help? lol

cheers

c

Try this, close iTunes, change audio output in system settings, reboot your Mac, open iTunes and try again...worked for me with a different FireWire interface....may work with the GSR

[ChrisWebbMusic]

Has anyone had any issues with the Midi In? I have a Oberheim/Viscount MC3000 goin into the desk, but I can't seem to get it working in logic.
Have tried to reset the midi drivers in logic, but still doesn't seem to read anything.
Need to resolve this as my semi-weighted M-Audio going usb just isn't the same with ql pianos!
c

[Adlen]

Question: How do the faders react to stereo channels?

Eg. If I have a track in ProTools that's stereo and outputting on 13-14, the audio will come through two channels bus presumably only fader 13 will be used, and then fader 14 will be for the next track (15)? This could mess some people up, I don't mind is usually but stereo instrument tracks could be a pain!

[troubadour1943]

Originally Posted by Adlen

Question: How do the faders react to stereo channels?

Eg. If I have a track in ProTools that's stereo and outputting on 13-14, the audio will come through two channels bus presumably only fader 13 will be used, and then fader 14 will be for the next track (15)? This could mess some people up, I don't mind is usually but stereo instrument tracks could be a pain!

hey adlen, i'm also having this problem running pro tools, haven't got a solution yet, anyone have any ideas?

[Adlen]

Originally Posted by troubadour1943

hey adlen, i'm also having this problem running pro tools, haven't got a solution yet, anyone have any ideas?

So it actually does it as I said? I don't have the console yet I was just thinking.

My only thought would be that you could make another track next to it, group the two together so the faders are locked and then the analogue channel would work fine. Bit of a silly way to do things but I get that the MIDI faders aren't going to be perfect.

I'm just working on the best way to route the console, it's not a fun job!

[ram75]

Hi there,
i'm folowing a great thread here:
The Ultimate Converter DA/AD Loopback Shootout Thread!

it would be interesting if one of the users of the desk could run the test to see what is the quality of the converters in it

Thank you

[Glenn Bucci]

It seems like this is one of the best mixers on a budget if you want an analog mixer with some DAW capabilities. In looking at the in depth review on Sound on Sound, this mixer is a real winner. Allen & Heath GSR24

An upgrade for this unit which would cost thousands more appear to be the Audient APS 4816 though it lacks DAW control.

Over all the A&H looks great, has a lot of great features including 2 tube channels, and basic DAW controls with transport, solo, mute, and faders. Very nice.

[Nick Adams]

Could anyone using Logic 9 explain how they have they have setup the motorised faders / midi controls?

I have had the desk a while now but I have never used the motorised faders.

I've re-started the desk holding play button > (release play) press solo/select 7 > the stop.

In control surface setup I have added the US2400 and then selected the 'outport' and 'input' to A&H

All I get is random midi messages like moving fader 5 will pan track 2 etc

Any help? What am I missing?

[Nick Adams]

Anyone? Someone must have Logic setup with the motorised faders working?

[rosemeister]

Originally Posted by Nick Adams

Could anyone using Logic 9 explain how they have they have setup the motorised faders / midi controls?

I have had the desk a while now but I have never used the motorised faders.

I've re-started the desk holding play button > (release play) press solo/select 7 > the stop.

In control surface setup I have added the US2400 and then selected the 'outport' and 'input' to A&H

All I get is random midi messages like moving fader 5 will pan track 2 etc

Any help? What am I missing?

Nice. You spend $10k and this is what you get for a controller. A&H should put some more effort on software control. Useless feature for the money.

[troubadour1943]

Originally Posted by rosemeister

Nice. You spend $10k and this is what you get for a controller. A&H should put some more effort on software control. Useless feature for the money.

having had the desk for 5 months i have to agree, the bugs in the software are causing me to restart the whole session and desk and the Bome Midi 'Translator' numerous times even to bounce an mp3 track.

[JampotMedia]

Interested in knowing if anyone has linked the GSR24 and ZEDR16 together?

[pistol-pete]

I'm considering this board, but as Vsti user i am concerned with the latency.
I am used to a 32 samples that gives me 1,4 ms with my Lynx Aes.
To be able to afford the board, i would have to sell: Lynx Aes 16, Aurora 16 and 2 channels of Trident 80b, Mackie MCU + Extender.
My current setup gives low latency,stabillity, and good soundqulity, but lacks in channels. I also would like to mix analog. But i have some concerns that all i gain is moore channels, while downgrading in other aspects.
The board i am considering is preowned, so i have to make the decision soon.
Please help me out!

[tomeford]

I'm finding some quirks with my gsr-24m. Not sure if it is design or technical fault...

The most annoying is the talkback button doesn't dim the monitor outs.

not good.

Anyone else found this?

(waiting on a response from A&H tech support)

[Ephi82]

Originally Posted by Nick Adams

Could anyone using Logic 9 explain how they have they have setup the motorised faders / midi controls?

I have had the desk a while now but I have never used the motorised faders.

I've re-started the desk holding play button > (release play) press solo/select 7 > the stop.

In control surface setup I have added the US2400 and then selected the 'outport' and 'input' to A&H

All I get is random midi messages like moving fader 5 will pan track 2 etc

Any help? What am I missing?

This guy
Gearslutz.com - View Profile: dotemuzik
says he has no problems with the GSR and Logic. Read his posts in this thread, seems to be some wisdom there

[Ephi82]

Wow,

I have been reading pages and pages in this thread, starting about mid point when the product actually started to be shipped.

My observation is that this thread has been pretty much dominated by one poster who seems to have had HUGE and continuous technical problems with everything touched by the GSR. My take away is that Pro Tools 9 was not playing well with the GSR, but a new driver fixed it. No more, no less.

There have been several posters very complimentary of the sound of the product, and also some that warn that the DAW control features may be tough to get going and navigate.

With that said, I am trying to figure out if this is the right product for me:

Some background:

I have a home studio and i believe I have become pretty proficient with getting great "sounds" recorded using a TASCAM 2488. I essentially track and mix like I have been since the 80's, with the TASCAM 2488 replacing the 8 track tape machine that died long ago.

I have nice mics, and outboard gear, and I believe I get great "tone" out of my instruments and amps, and I am able to get that recorded. Considering the "board" that I have , my mixes are pretty good too, but I know that they could be a lot better sounding with a better one. Note that I dont do any editing, (be a musician, get it down right), autotune is a abomination and many plug ins are still an approximation of the real thing

However, its time to step up, and my goals are:

1) OTB/hands on workflow (with flexibility to use the power of ITB when I want to)
2) Analog mix summing
3) Buss compression for mixes (whether ITB or OTB)
4) Ability to have all my instruments, mics, keyboards, drums wired up and ready to go without a lot of patching and plugging
5)the ability to start experimenting with 5.1, and some rudimentary Mastering
6) an important detail re: 1) I want to be able to control the DAW like I controlled the old 8 track and the Tascam......no need for a mouse for the high frequency usage things

I believe a DAW plus the GSR will get me there BUT,

1) this will be my first experience with DAW based recording,
2) my experience level with computers is as a business and home apps user (email, Internet, spreadsheets, Power points etc)
3) I have dowloaded and updated drivers and configued applications on my computers, but I wouldnt describe these skills as skills! I get by.

- Am I biting off more than I can chew here in terms of technical skills with the DAW and configurations?
- will a DAW and the GSR deliver to my expectations?
- any alternatives to suggest?

[Ephi82]

Many apologies! Looks like I killed the thread!

[Adlen]

Originally Posted by Ephi82

Many apologies! Looks like I killed the thread!

No, it just looked like a lot to reply to at first!

In response to your questions...

Am I biting off more than I can chew here in terms of technical skills with the DAW and configurations?
Possibly due to your lack of experience with computers. It might be worth seeking help at first, there are a number of ways to learn wither Logic or Pro Tools in person or online.

will a DAW and the GSR deliver to my expectations?
Sound quality wise? Chances are it will work out considerably better than your Tascam, but I've never been a fan of those all-in-ones.

any alternatives to suggest?
Nope, this is the future! Perhaps, if the computer is going to add too much hassle and you don't need the plugins or advanced editing, you could look at a hard-drive recorder such as the Alesis HD24 or the Mackie HDR24/96. I've worked with both and had no complaints, although I've only dealt with the Mackie briefly. It would work as a tape-machine, a bit more similar to your Tascam, and would be a lot easier to learn since computers have so many variables. Even I, part of the generation raised on computers all over our schools who worked with them directly for a few years, hates these frakking machines!

If you need any more advice shoot me a PM and I'll be happy to help.

[Lex A]

You can't go wrong with a GS-R24 and a Nice mac setup. I have one with my mac pro desktop. its a sweet setup.

[Ephi82]

Originally Posted by Lex A

You can't go wrong with a GS-R24 and a Nice mac setup. I have one with my mac pro desktop. its a sweet setup.

Do you have all the controller stuff working? Jog wheel etc??? No problems with configuration? What DAW are you running?

[tomeford]

using gs-r24m with imac and PT10...

had to spend $90 on bome midi translator to get things going, and the jog won't work.

Transport, faders and solo works great.

I believe other DAW's you won't need the translator and jog will work.

Anyone else found that monitors don't dim when talkback button pressed?

[TrackLab]

hmmm..

My GSR24m unit is still sitting in the box as my control room build is taking its time, i have been keeping tabs about this unit; i love the look and the great feedback from a handful of people- but one thing i don't like is things that are suppose to work & have a function actually do not; my main daw is protools and various reports from PT users, jog not working, talk back, computer errors etc has me reflecting on how i want to work i guess.

Being its still in the box i am really thinking on selling the unit, with 6 Aphex easy rider quad compressors which will give you 24 channels of compression, a samson s patch plus [patchbay] and all leads to connect them - all brand new never used!

interested..? message me in my inbox [ i am in australia ]