Public Image ltd "Album" Cassette" "CD" etc - yeah!

**Blast9** · 12th April 2009, 11:07 AM

Forgotten gem - loving this!

Would love to know more about Bill Laswell's methods - Love the approach to the drums

Some great tunes on this one and great snarling vocal performances.

Love the vocal treatment on "Home"

Top notch musicians -

Vai doing some really interesting stuff - Great tone from his batterd green meanie (what has happened since?

)

Ginger Baker!

rectifier · 12th April 2009, 11:21 AM

I always forget Vai was in that band.

**Blast9** · 12th April 2009, 11:54 AM

Yeah - I don't think he toured with them though.

-

Loads of room sound/reverb on the drums - but it doesn't bother me!

gurubuzz · 12th April 2009, 02:52 PM

i could be wrong ....

but then again ? ? ?

jeep · 12th April 2009, 02:56 PM

awesome band.

LaChunkyStudio · 12th April 2009, 04:15 PM

"Home" one of my favourite tracks of all time. Love the drum sound but the vocals are everything in this track.

"Everrrry dog has is daaaaay-ah!"

**Blast9** · 12th April 2009, 04:21 PM

yeah totally *spitting* contempt

Dale Turner · 12th April 2009, 04:30 PM

yeeeaaaAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!

This is totally one of my fave Vai records of all time. I bought it as a cassette in 1985, right after it came out, then in CD format later.

I love how it exists as "Album," "Cassette," and "Compact Disc" as a generic album title, dependent upon release format--its artwork, I think, based on '80s-era GENERIC BEER! Remember that???

AWESOME guitar stuff--great "part" playing throughout. Tons of cool, mult-tracked parts. And his solo on "Ease" is beyond sick. I think that's actually the only "proper solo" on the whole disc. NICE!

Sid Viscous · 12th April 2009, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gurubuzz

i could be wrong ....

I could be right!

sahiaman · 12th April 2009, 05:15 PM

Hellz yeah. I was just listening to the PIL record yesterday. Anyone ever think the guitar sounds from PIL are very close to the guitar sounds of U2? Yet both bands started around pretty much at the same time.

rectifier · 12th April 2009, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Viscous

I could be right!

First time for everything eh Sid?

**Blast9** · 12th April 2009, 05:22 PM

^ lol - can you reverse time?

Cellotron · 12th April 2009, 05:23 PM

I'm going to have to slightly disagree. I love Laswell's work but to me this isn't one of his best efforts - and far from PIL's best either. The real great PIL stuff was when Jah Wobble and Keith Levene were in the band - producing some crazy dub skronk that was definitely both of its time and ahead of it at once.

Best regards,
Steve Berson

**Blast9** · 12th April 2009, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sahiaman

Hellz yeah. I was just listening to the PIL record yesterday. Anyone ever think the guitar sounds from PIL are very close to the guitar sounds of U2? Yet both bands started around pretty much at the same time.

Its a British thing!

Souxie and the banshees, cocteau twins smiths etc in a similar territory

rectifier · 12th April 2009, 08:00 PM

Didn't know that Miles Davis did some cuts for PIL - found this:

"Davis collaborated with a number of figures from the British new wave movement during this period, including Scritti Politti.[10] At the invitation of producer Bill Laswell Davis recorded some trumpet parts during sessions for Public Image Ltd.'s Album album, according to Public Image's John Lydon in the liner notes of their Plastic Box box set. In Lydon's words, however, "strangely enough, we didn't use (his contributions)." (Also according to Lydon in the Plastic Box notes, Davis favorably compared Lydon's singing voice to his trumpet sound.)"

NoisyNarrowBand · 12th April 2009, 08:25 PM

this is the only record with vai on it that I still come back to. vai only acts as a musician when domesticated by somebody with authority like zappa or laswell. eat em and smile was on ok record too, but everywhere else he forgets the music and can't stop saying me, me, me, me....

79_Limited · 12th April 2009, 10:58 PM

Love album. One of my faves.

GSF · 13th April 2009, 02:38 AM

Great album, though in my opinion their first album is unrivaled.

I guess it's all a matter of taste, but I like the drums least on "Album". That gated, compressed snare was so overused back then...guitars sound pretty good, though Vai is no Keith Levine...I could be wrong, but I detect a bit of a "cocaine" vibe on this one compared to the others.

**Blast9** · 13th April 2009, 09:59 AM

^ Yeah the drums have that "Power Station" vibe, but it doesn't bother me prolly cos of the overall performance and other sonic stuff

gurubuzz · 13th April 2009, 01:47 PM

So if downloaded today would it be called

Pil _ Download

I Just got Pil - Torrent the young kiddies would say...

**Blast9** · 13th April 2009, 02:25 PM

LOL too true!

12th April 2009, 11:07 AM	#1
Blast9 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,610	Public Image ltd "Album" Cassette" "CD" etc - yeah! Forgotten gem - loving this! Would love to know more about Bill Laswell's methods - Love the approach to the drums Some great tunes on this one and great snarling vocal performances. Love the vocal treatment on "Home" Top notch musicians - Vai doing some really interesting stuff - Great tone from his batterd green meanie (what has happened since? ) Ginger Baker! __________________ :: The Yardbirds http://www.theyardbirds.com :: myspace > http://www.myspace.com/andymitchellrock - I used Chameleon Labs 7602 and Mackie Satellite pres, PTLE, Shure beta 87A, Tech21 (Sansamp Bass Driver DI, TRi-AC) and Addictive Drums :: twitter > http://twitter.com/mitchellmusic - http://www.twitter.com/theyardbirds :: My guitars: Atkin OM (sitka spruce top walnut back: sweet mids):: Atkin Small Jumbo (cedar top, rosewood back: big bottom, sparkly top)

12th April 2009, 11:54 AM	#3
Blast9 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,610	Yeah - I don't think he toured with them though. - Loads of room sound/reverb on the drums - but it doesn't bother me! __________________ :: The Yardbirds http://www.theyardbirds.com :: myspace > http://www.myspace.com/andymitchellrock - I used Chameleon Labs 7602 and Mackie Satellite pres, PTLE, Shure beta 87A, Tech21 (Sansamp Bass Driver DI, TRi-AC) and Addictive Drums :: twitter > http://twitter.com/mitchellmusic - http://www.twitter.com/theyardbirds :: My guitars: Atkin OM (sitka spruce top walnut back: sweet mids):: Atkin Small Jumbo (cedar top, rosewood back: big bottom, sparkly top)

12th April 2009, 04:21 PM	#7
Blast9 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,610	yeah totally spitting contempt __________________ :: The Yardbirds http://www.theyardbirds.com :: myspace > http://www.myspace.com/andymitchellrock - I used Chameleon Labs 7602 and Mackie Satellite pres, PTLE, Shure beta 87A, Tech21 (Sansamp Bass Driver DI, TRi-AC) and Addictive Drums :: twitter > http://twitter.com/mitchellmusic - http://www.twitter.com/theyardbirds :: My guitars: Atkin OM (sitka spruce top walnut back: sweet mids):: Atkin Small Jumbo (cedar top, rosewood back: big bottom, sparkly top)

12th April 2009, 05:15 PM	#10
sahiaman Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,285	Hellz yeah. I was just listening to the PIL record yesterday. Anyone ever think the guitar sounds from PIL are very close to the guitar sounds of U2? Yet both bands started around pretty much at the same time. __________________ "We are each of us angels, with only one wing. We can only fly by embracing each other." - Luciano De Crescenzo

12th April 2009, 05:22 PM	#12
Blast9 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,610	^ lol - can you reverse time? __________________ :: The Yardbirds http://www.theyardbirds.com :: myspace > http://www.myspace.com/andymitchellrock - I used Chameleon Labs 7602 and Mackie Satellite pres, PTLE, Shure beta 87A, Tech21 (Sansamp Bass Driver DI, TRi-AC) and Addictive Drums :: twitter > http://twitter.com/mitchellmusic - http://www.twitter.com/theyardbirds :: My guitars: Atkin OM (sitka spruce top walnut back: sweet mids):: Atkin Small Jumbo (cedar top, rosewood back: big bottom, sparkly top)

12th April 2009, 11:21 AM	#2
rectifier Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Belgica Posts: 1,398	I always forget Vai was in that band.

12th April 2009, 02:52 PM	#4
gurubuzz Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 884	i could be wrong .... but then again ? ? ?

12th April 2009, 02:56 PM	#5
jeep Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Central Coast, NSW, AUSTRALIA! Posts: 319	awesome band.

12th April 2009, 04:15 PM	#6
LaChunkyStudio Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Glasgow, Scotland. Posts: 246	"Home" one of my favourite tracks of all time. Love the drum sound but the vocals are everything in this track. "Everrrry dog has is daaaaay-ah!"

12th April 2009, 04:30 PM	#8
Dale Turner Gear Head Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 73	yeeeaaaAAAH!!!!!!!!!!! This is totally one of my fave Vai records of all time. I bought it as a cassette in 1985, right after it came out, then in CD format later. I love how it exists as "Album," "Cassette," and "Compact Disc" as a generic album title, dependent upon release format--its artwork, I think, based on '80s-era GENERIC BEER! Remember that??? AWESOME guitar stuff--great "part" playing throughout. Tons of cool, mult-tracked parts. And his solo on "Ease" is beyond sick. I think that's actually the only "proper solo" on the whole disc. NICE!

12th April 2009, 05:23 PM	#13
Cellotron Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 2,345	I'm going to have to slightly disagree. I love Laswell's work but to me this isn't one of his best efforts - and far from PIL's best either. The real great PIL stuff was when Jah Wobble and Keith Levene were in the band - producing some crazy dub skronk that was definitely both of its time and ahead of it at once. Best regards, Steve Berson __________________ www.totalsonicmastering.com www.invertmusic.org www.warlockasylum.info

12th April 2009, 08:00 PM	#15
rectifier Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Belgica Posts: 1,398	Didn't know that Miles Davis did some cuts for PIL - found this: "Davis collaborated with a number of figures from the British new wave movement during this period, including Scritti Politti.[10] At the invitation of producer Bill Laswell Davis recorded some trumpet parts during sessions for Public Image Ltd.'s Album album, according to Public Image's John Lydon in the liner notes of their Plastic Box box set. In Lydon's words, however, "strangely enough, we didn't use (his contributions)." (Also according to Lydon in the Plastic Box notes, Davis favorably compared Lydon's singing voice to his trumpet sound.)"

12th April 2009, 08:25 PM	#16
NoisyNarrowBand Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 290	this is the only record with vai on it that I still come back to. vai only acts as a musician when domesticated by somebody with authority like zappa or laswell. eat em and smile was on ok record too, but everywhere else he forgets the music and can't stop saying me, me, me, me....

12th April 2009, 10:58 PM	#17
79_Limited Gear addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 330	Love album. One of my faves.

13th April 2009, 02:38 AM	#18
GSF Gear maniac Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Francisco Posts: 182	Great album, though in my opinion their first album is unrivaled. I guess it's all a matter of taste, but I like the drums least on "Album". That gated, compressed snare was so overused back then...guitars sound pretty good, though Vai is no Keith Levine...I could be wrong, but I detect a bit of a "cocaine" vibe on this one compared to the others.

13th April 2009, 09:59 AM	#19
Blast9 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,610	^ Yeah the drums have that "Power Station" vibe, but it doesn't bother me prolly cos of the overall performance and other sonic stuff __________________ :: The Yardbirds http://www.theyardbirds.com :: myspace > http://www.myspace.com/andymitchellrock - I used Chameleon Labs 7602 and Mackie Satellite pres, PTLE, Shure beta 87A, Tech21 (Sansamp Bass Driver DI, TRi-AC) and Addictive Drums :: twitter > http://twitter.com/mitchellmusic - http://www.twitter.com/theyardbirds :: My guitars: Atkin OM (sitka spruce top walnut back: sweet mids):: Atkin Small Jumbo (cedar top, rosewood back: big bottom, sparkly top)

13th April 2009, 01:47 PM	#20
gurubuzz Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 884	So if downloaded today would it be called Pil _ Download I Just got Pil - Torrent the young kiddies would say...

13th April 2009, 02:25 PM	#21
Blast9 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,610	LOL too true! __________________ :: The Yardbirds http://www.theyardbirds.com :: myspace > http://www.myspace.com/andymitchellrock - I used Chameleon Labs 7602 and Mackie Satellite pres, PTLE, Shure beta 87A, Tech21 (Sansamp Bass Driver DI, TRi-AC) and Addictive Drums :: twitter > http://twitter.com/mitchellmusic - http://www.twitter.com/theyardbirds :: My guitars: Atkin OM (sitka spruce top walnut back: sweet mids):: Atkin Small Jumbo (cedar top, rosewood back: big bottom, sparkly top)

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