Mixing Orchestra in with Pop rock song

Hammer v2 · 23rd July 2005

Ok Guys, I'm about to embark on a huge mixing project. I have to mix an entire orchestra (Garritan-programmed well) with a big pop-rock song. Any tips on shoehorning it all in?
H.

Ribbonmicguy · 23rd July 2005

Bounce them!

Actually,

depending on the context of the song, whether the orchestration is backing up the band or the orchestration is the melody of the song.

My trick is usually a reverb that i would use ONLY on the orchestra and blend it a little with the band, plus longer predelays on the orchesrtra.

Not knowing the song, take my suggestion with a grain of salt

JulianBrightnes · 23rd July 2005

Used to work at a studio where we had all the Garritan strings. Usually I find mixing an orchestra with an avarage pop/rock song not that difficult (as always depending on the material and arrangement)...but with the Garritan strings. Horrible.
I really grew to hate that library. Maybe you have the option of doing it in the new EastWest library. It's what I'm using now and it is a huge difference.
Garritan sound ok on it's own but in the mix it just doesn't work.
Though he might have a new library out now. I'm talking the Garritan strings that came out in 2002.

Cheers, Julian

u b k · 23rd July 2005

try putting the strings thru a spacious medium room algo (tc is nice for this) at 100% wet, and seating the whole thing behind the band. lots of sweet midrange, it'll sound like ass when solo'd.

also, panning is gonna be a huge factor; throw everything out to the edges, or keep it all tucked in between the guitars.

have fun!

gregoire
del ubik

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Hammer v2 Gear maniac Joined: Sep 2004 Location: Somewhere Posts: 176 Thread Starter	Mixing Orchestra in with Pop rock song Ok Guys, I'm about to embark on a huge mixing project. I have to mix an entire orchestra (Garritan-programmed well) with a big pop-rock song. Any tips on shoehorning it all in? H. __________________ Some days we are the flies; some days we are the windscreen.

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Ribbonmicguy Gear addict Joined: Apr 2004 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Posts: 412	Bounce them! Actually, depending on the context of the song, whether the orchestration is backing up the band or the orchestration is the melody of the song. My trick is usually a reverb that i would use ONLY on the orchestra and blend it a little with the band, plus longer predelays on the orchesrtra. Not knowing the song, take my suggestion with a grain of salt __________________ ------------------------------ Harmoko Aguswan Big Knob Studio Right Track Productions ------------------------------ On one hand, I can certainly sympathize with the approach of "Hey, I can't hear any difference, so why should I pay that much?". On the other, I wonder why anyone who can't hear a difference is recording, mixing, or producing records. -DAVE MARTIN thumbsup

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JulianBrightnes Gear addict Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Amsterdam, NL Posts: 390	Used to work at a studio where we had all the Garritan strings. Usually I find mixing an orchestra with an avarage pop/rock song not that difficult (as always depending on the material and arrangement)...but with the Garritan strings. Horrible. I really grew to hate that library. Maybe you have the option of doing it in the new EastWest library. It's what I'm using now and it is a huge difference. Garritan sound ok on it's own but in the mix it just doesn't work. Though he might have a new library out now. I'm talking the Garritan strings that came out in 2002. Cheers, Julian

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u b k Gear Guru Joined: Oct 2004 Location: The Land of Sunshine Posts: 11,292	try putting the strings thru a spacious medium room algo (tc is nice for this) at 100% wet, and seating the whole thing behind the band. lots of sweet midrange, it'll sound like ass when solo'd. also, panning is gonna be a huge factor; throw everything out to the edges, or keep it all tucked in between the guitars. have fun! gregoire del ubik