Escape the Fate New album!

[anemicrock]

This war is ours.

Who likes it?

Me personally I love it. I know Feldmann gets a lot of shit here but I think he did a great job. Sounds much bigger than the Atreyu record he did.

Great metal/pop band too.

Anyone know if he's using real horns on his records though or some kind of simulation?

[anemicrock]

I take it nobody here is a fan then. lol

[dobz]

Personally it sucked!

New singer sounds generic.

Songs so generic.

Production sound generic.

John Feldmann really knows how to take a great band and make them sound boring!

I rate him as one of the worse producers of modern rock.

Almost every band he has touched he has turned to Sh!t

[anemicrock]

That was the response I was expecting. lol

I respect your opinion but disagree.

He was responsible for The used and has done some great work with them.

Arteyu's album I gotta admit sucked but I really do like the new Escape album. The new singer to me is more tuneful though his lyrics suck.

Generic, maybe. But it's a metal album. Metal and generic go hand in hand in my opinion.

[dobz]

The first album was much better. It's was something different from the standard modern rock genre (it's not metal!).

Ronnie had a great voice and put a hell of a lot of emotion into his singing (to bad he's not all there in the head!) He was at least something different.

Now the Good old John got his hands on the band (And helped with the song writing) it sounds the same as the used, story of the year, atreyu. Plus the new Cute is what we aim for album was average.

The used had one good album and then they went straight down hill!

Every album he touches sounds the same. You can get away with it once but after that it's very boring!

I really wish bands would go back to the same engineers that helped get them there.

To be honest the only people i have found that like the album are teens aged 13-17 that have no idea about good music.

[anemicrock]

I totally get what your saying.

Cute is what we aim for was very boring. Story of the years first album sounded the same as the first Used album.

To me those 2 album although great songs, sucked ass in the production department. Well the drums anyway.

The second Used album I loved.

I never heard of Escape the Fate until John did this album but he blatantly took their song writing to a new level that's for sure. Far, far better. Would have been interesting to see what Ronnie would have sounded like on it but the new guy hold his own.

The record might not be as emotional but that could have been down to Ronnie and not John.

Oh yea as far as the Used goes, I'm pretty sure they have used the same engineer for every record apart from the one they are currently recording but I'm not sure what band you we're making a reference of.

His productions also sound a lot the same but that's his style I guess. Just like EVERY single album Eric Valentine touches etc etc. People go to him for that sound.

Still though man. All valid points. Just different strokes for different folks.

[BLUElightCory]

I've worked with Craig (the new ETF singer) several times while producing his old band (Bless the Fall) and mixing his last band (The Word Alive).

The best thing about Craig is the intensity and the huge amount of character his voice can bring to the music. His voice has always been very distinctive and I think it was a large part of what got his former projects noticed.

My problem with the new Escape the Fate stuff is that it seems that much of the energy and character has been stripped from Craig's delivery, making the vocals come off as much more generic then I know that they could be. Whether this was Craig's decision, the band's, or Feldmann's, I don't know. But I'd love to hear him inject more of his personality back into things.

My two cents.

[anemicrock]

Hmm. I'll have to check out bless the fall. I hears he was in that band but never got round to hearing anything by them so I can't say how different his voice sounds now.

Did it sound more like Ronnie's? If so maybe that's what all of them involved wanted. Craig to sound different from him.

To me though, Ronnie sounded pretty much exactly like the from first to last singer. The bands music especially. Just take a listen to Dear Diary, My Teen Angst Has a Bodycount. Dying is your latest fasion is pretty much the same album.

Anyway, I'll check out bless the fall now. Which album or EP was Craig on?