SSL X-Desk - Page 2

ORGANIK · 27th March 2009

this has got to be some kind of line in summing box, that you can hook up the x modules into for pres and eqs....
def has monitoring, cue send, efx send, some alt 1-2 routing ......... would be cool if it has a use without x modules

tsvisser · 27th March 2009

I want... although its probably not what I need.

It sort of reminds me of a little Studer / Revox mixer. Is it really "just" a small format 8x2 mixer or could it be something else? Digital patch bay, DAW controller, Duende controller are things I really need, but looking at the pics, I see no evidence that it is anything other than a straight up analog 8x2 desk, though.

mobilemozart · 27th March 2009

my guess: turns an x-rack into a "mini"-SSL with big faders!

1. take two x-racks with 8 ch. e-series comp + 8 ch. e-series EQ
2. add "x-desk"
3. build into 19"-rack or workstation-table a la "argosy"

here we go = mini 8 ch. E-Series !!!

Jamzone · 27th March 2009

My guess would be a mini-Matrix with a couple of sends and summing to bridge the gap between summing/mixer and make it simple to use analog outboard... Hopefully recall.

//Jamzone

AudioWarehouse · 27th March 2009

thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilemozart

my guess: turns an x-rack into a "mini"-SSL with big faders!

1. take two x-racks with 8 ch. e-series comp + 8 ch. e-series EQ
2. add "x-mix"
3. build into 19"-rack or workstation-table a la "argosy"

here we go = mini 8 ch. E-Series !!!

tsvisser · 27th March 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilemozart

my guess: turns an x-rack into a "mini"-SSL with big faders!

1. take two x-racks with 8 ch. e-series comp + 8 ch. e-series EQ
2. add "x-mix"
3. build into 19"-rack or workstation-table a la "argosy"

here we go = mini 8 ch. E-Series !!!

as appealing as that is, I'm sort of doubting it. I figure if it was an accessory for the X-Rack, then at least it would have been matched for color / visual style. this appears to be a stand alone mixer. I *think* it has mic pres built in... trying to figure out if those are PAD and phantom power buttons up top or not. Who knows, maybe it is just line. in today's economy, I figure SSL would do better with a premium, but still relatively "inexpensive" self contained mixer to get the SSL family into smaller rooms, home studios, or as sub mixers rather than providing an accessory for the relatively expensive X-RACK.

MyPutzyRod · 27th March 2009

SSL's version of the n12, zed-r16, et all??

8 Channel fireware interface/controller with EQ? That would be an amazing deal if it has real SSL E series EQ.

AudioWarehouse · 27th March 2009

tutt

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyPutzyRod

SSL's version of the n12, zed-r16, et all??

8 Channel fireware interface/controller with EQ? That would be an amazing deal if it has real SSL E series EQ.

tsvisser · 27th March 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyPutzyRod

SSL's version of the n12, zed-r16, et all??

8 Channel fireware interface/controller with EQ? That would be an amazing deal if it has real SSL E series EQ.

now we're talking, although I would prefer something other than Firewire, as I'd like to reserve my firewire bandwidth for my Duende processes.

Farshad · 27th March 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyPutzyRod

SSL's version of the n12, zed-r16, et all??

8 Channel fireware interface/controller with EQ? That would be an amazing deal if it has real SSL E series EQ.

So where are the EQ knobs (freq, gain, ...) then? I don't see them...

Farshad · 27th March 2009

Did a search. Found this but I can not read it

adpz · 27th March 2009

Available on APRIL 1ST. I hope it's not an April Fool's thing!!! Jim, give us another little peek . . . we wont' telltutt

MyPutzyRod · 27th March 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farshad

So where are the EQ knobs (freq, gain, ...) then? I don't see them...

It's definitely not an E-series EQ, but some type of EQ is pretty obvious from the picture.

mobilemozart · 27th March 2009

Come on - it's so obvious what it is!

The color and layout is exactly matched to the e-series modules. It doesn't have mic-pre's at this price (of course not), but a full-blown master section with all the basics including Dim, Alt-Speakers, iPod Connector Headphones, FX Returns.
No Total Recall though!

Jim, do I win a free x-mix with my prediction? PM me for shipping address... LoL

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsvisser

as appealing as that is, I'm sort of doubting it. I figure if it was an accessory for the X-Rack, then at least it would have been matched for color / visual style. this appears to be a stand alone mixer. I *think* it has mic pres built in... trying to figure out if those are PAD and phantom power buttons up top or not. Who knows, maybe it is just line. in today's economy, I figure SSL would do better with a premium, but still relatively "inexpensive" self contained mixer to get the SSL family into smaller rooms, home studios, or as sub mixers rather than providing an accessory for the relatively expensive X-RACK.

bobsandifer · 27th March 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farshad

Did a search. Found this but I can not read it

I heard the rumors already, there is something new SSL. I know not yet what it is, but it costs £ 1675 ex VAT in the UK, and is analogous. And it is called an X-desk. Looks like a small mixertje that your X-Rack can connect, can mix to headphones (and I now just as X-rack bought :-)), I see: 1 stereo FX send and FX 2 mono -sends in the picture. And a talkbackmic. Probably not micpreamps on board, but line inputs, and it seems a monitor controller. When presented the Messe in Frankfurt, so I certainly take a look.

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AudioWarehouse · 27th March 2009

tutt

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyPutzyRod

It's definitely not an E-series EQ, but some type of EQ is pretty obvious from the picture.

DSpec1 · 27th March 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim@SSL

Analogue
Cascade-able
£1675+tax

X-Desk and other new products can be seen at Booth B75, Hall 5.1, Messe Frankfurt from 9AM on 1st April.

I am drooling over specifics....

Jamzone · 27th March 2009

A mini-Matrix, as I said.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilemozart

Come on - it's so obvious what it is!

The color and layout is exactly matched to the e-series modules. It doesn't have mic-pre's at this price (of course not), but a full-blown master section with all the basics including Dim, Alt-Speakers, iPod Connector Headphones, FX Returns.
No Total Recall though!

Jim, do I win a free x-mix with my prediction? PM me for shipping address... LoL

Farshad · 27th March 2009

So no EQ then? All I can see is several knobs for FX1, 2 , PAN, Cue, etc but no hint of any EQ or am I missing something?

Cheers

AudioWarehouse · 27th March 2009

thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamzone

A mini-Matrix, as I said.

**TonyBelmont** · 27th March 2009

Some of you guys have wonderful imaginations.

mobilemozart · 27th March 2009

No EQ there...

Channels from top to bottom
- Input Gain (Line) + 3 switches
- Pre/Post Button
- Stereo Cue or Echo Send
- 2 x Mono Echo Send
- Pan
- Cut (SSL Speak for Mute Button)
- Solo
- Fader

Master Section has:
- Stereo Cue Master Send
- 2 x Mono Cue / Echo Send Masters
- 2 x Echo Return
- Monitor Level with Dim + Cut + Talkback
& a few other Buttons difficult to identify

Back of the Unit:
- Sub-D Connector

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyPutzyRod

It's definitely not an E-series EQ, but some type of EQ is pretty obvious from the picture.

**TonyBelmont** · 27th March 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilemozart

No EQ there...

Channels from top to bottom
- Input Gain (Line) + 3 switches
- Pre/Post Button
- Stereo Cue or Echo Send
- 2 x Mono Echo Send
- Pan
- Cut (SSL Speak for Mute Button)
- Solo
- Fader

Master Section has:
- Stereo Cue Master Send
- 2 x Mono Cue / Echo Send Masters
- 2 x Echo Return
- Monitor Level with Dim + Cut + Talkback
& a few other Buttons difficult to identify

Back of the Unit:
- Sub-D Connector

Hopefully they put the mono button in there, too.

mobilemozart · 27th March 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

Hopefully they put the mono button in there, too.

Thanks Tony, yes Mono Button included!

**TonyBelmont** · 27th March 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilemozart

Thanks Tony, yes Mono Button included!

Jamzone · 27th March 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilemozart

a few other Buttons difficult to identify

Recall!!

solidstate · 27th March 2009

So what is it? A Minimatrix? Or a faders pack for the xrack?

tsvisser · 27th March 2009

phase inversion?

mobilemozart · 27th March 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsvisser

phase inversion?

yes, probably one of the three buttons at the input section

any suggestion what the other two are?

definitely no mic-pre's!

Jamzone · 27th March 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsvisser

phase inversion?

Why??

27th March 2009	#31
ORGANIK Gear addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: new york Posts: 413	intresting this has got to be some kind of line in summing box, that you can hook up the x modules into for pres and eqs.... def has monitoring, cue send, efx send, some alt 1-2 routing ......... would be cool if it has a use without x modules

27th March 2009	#33
mobilemozart Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 772	Mini SSL my guess: turns an x-rack into a "mini"-SSL with big faders! 1. take two x-racks with 8 ch. e-series comp + 8 ch. e-series EQ 2. add "x-desk" 3. build into 19"-rack or workstation-table a la "argosy" here we go = mini 8 ch. E-Series !!!

27th March 2009	#49
Farshad Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,329	So no EQ then? All I can see is several knobs for FX1, 2 , PAN, Cue, etc but no hint of any EQ or am I missing something? Cheers __________________ Apogee Rosetta 200, Lexicon PCM91, DSI Evolver, Microwave XTK, Kurzweil K2661, Alesis Fusion 8HD, Yamaha TG77, Roland JD990/D550, Korg 01R/W, SCA N72s

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27th March 2009	#32
tsvisser Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Honolulu HI Posts: 1,805	I want... although its probably not what I need. It sort of reminds me of a little Studer / Revox mixer. Is it really "just" a small format 8x2 mixer or could it be something else? Digital patch bay, DAW controller, Duende controller are things I really need, but looking at the pics, I see no evidence that it is anything other than a straight up analog 8x2 desk, though.

27th March 2009	#34
Jamzone Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 666	My guess would be a mini-Matrix with a couple of sends and summing to bridge the gap between summing/mixer and make it simple to use analog outboard... Hopefully recall. //Jamzone

27th March 2009	#37
MyPutzyRod Gear nut Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 98	SSL's version of the n12, zed-r16, et all?? 8 Channel fireware interface/controller with EQ? That would be an amazing deal if it has real SSL E series EQ.

27th March 2009	#42
adpz Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: new york city Posts: 1,501	Available on APRIL 1ST. I hope it's not an April Fool's thing!!! Jim, give us another little peek . . . we wont' telltutt

27th March 2009	#51
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27th March 2009	#57
solidstate Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 939	So what is it? A Minimatrix? Or a faders pack for the xrack?