Samplitude sound quality

[monomer]

Originally Posted by mplancke

Which mix, which song, which monitoring environment, which set of ears, which universe?

Doesnt take away from the fact that your mixes do not translate to my set well while just about any other music does...

Spelling counts.

"Whether", "heard", "themselves", "science"

I seriously doubt that someone who can't operate a spell checker that's built in to the forum posting mechanism is qualified to do any form of critiquing.

I seriously do not see a spell checker built into the forum posting mechanism.
Also, i am dislectis.

It's easy to throw down when you're an anonymous no one behind a computer screen.

Mark

That being true maybe you should not be so hard headed and try to understand what people are trying to teach you.
(but of course, you, as an adult and as a pro, have nothing to learn anymore....)

[mplancke]

Originally Posted by monomer

I seriously do not see a spell checker built into the forum posting mechanism.
Also, i am dislectis.

See those red underlines that appear when you type? Right click on those.

Doesnt take away from the fact that your mixes do not translate to my set well while just about any other music does...

Interesting, I'll have to talk to my Mastering Engineer about that.

Dialing the phone....

Better yet, why don't you give him a call.

Phil Demetro | Lacquer Channel Mastering - Toronto Mastering Studios, Canada.

Mark

[winrar]

Originally Posted by mplancke

See those red underlines that appear when you type? Right click on those.



Interesting, I'll have to talk to my Mastering Engineer about that.

Dialing the phone....

Mark

i think you didnt understand clearly as always,

it has nothing to do with mastering....

your mixes are just too bad,
no mastering engineers can
correct your misuse of dynamics and EQs...

you dont even know whats mastering do you


come to SAE, you will learn some

taaaaaaa
ooopps spelling mistake

[mplancke]

Originally Posted by winrar

your mixes are just too bad,
no mastering engineers can
correct your misuse of dynamics and EQs...

I'll have to trust Phil's and my client's opinion of my mixes as opposed to an anonymous no one behind a computer screen in his mommy's basement.

Not a big loss.

Mark

[winrar]

Originally Posted by mplancke

I'll have to trust Phil's and my client's opinion of my mixes as opposed to an anonymous no one behind a computer screen in his mommy's basement.

Not a big loss.

Mark

yea do that...

your mixes are still crap

[Leon EA]

Originally Posted by mplancke

See those red underlines that appear when you type? Right click on those.

I'm not in here to fight, but I can't find any spell checking feature on this forum nor do I see red lines.

[Studiodawg]

Samplitude still sounds great and is a very efficient editing program regardless of all this bitching. Samplitude 11 will be out soon and I look forward to the upgrade. one louder – one better

[blim]

Originally Posted by Leon EA

I'm not in here to fight, but I can't find any spell checking feature on this forum nor do I see red lines.

I've noticed that when I'm using Mozilla Firefox, I get a spell check on this forum. When I use Internet Explorer, I do not.

As far this mplancke=allencollins speculation goes, it's interesting, but I doubt it. Mplancke appears to be sober. Al usually posted when he was drunk.

[winrar]

Originally Posted by blim

As far this mplancke=allencollins speculation goes, it's interesting, but I doubt it. Mplancke appears to be sober. Al usually posted when he was drunk.

i call that luck of intelligence

[monomer]

Originally Posted by mplancke

See those red underlines that appear when you type? Right click on those.

Nope, dont have those.
Mind you, i work on a pc with mozilla and have no office installed.
Maybe its because of that.

Interesting, I'll have to talk to my Mastering Engineer about that.

Dialing the phone....

Better yet, why don't you give him a call.

Phil Demetro | Lacquer Channel Mastering - Toronto Mastering Studios, Canada.

Mark

Email sent!

But the critisisms i have are mostly within the mix.
Seen from a mastering engineers point of view these tracks are compromises.
You cannot easily lift the high end out of an overall dull track without also hyping some already overhyped elements in the mix, if they are there.
You cannot fix badly done compression on individual drums in mastering.
You cannot easily remove clipping if it is already processed in to a mix.
You cannot fix the way the individual sounds work together.
You do broad strokes in mastering.
My comments are mostly about the details.
Which is basicaly how you have recorded/mixed it.
And the mastering engineer has exposed.

[monomer]

Originally Posted by mplancke

I'll have to trust Phil's and my client's opinion of my mixes as opposed to an anonymous no one behind a computer screen in his mommy's basement.

Not a big loss.

Mark

Right, as long as you get your money.
That's the pro way.
But pro doesnt make good mixes per se.

[monomer]

Originally Posted by Studiodawg

Samplitude still sounds great and is a very efficient editing program regardless of all this bitching.

Of course it sounds great, they all sound great these days.
And if you find it an efficient editor then you should stick with it!
No pun intended.
Just don't be surprised if there are other tools out there that offer the same audio quality (and some are even free).

Quality wise there is not much special about samplitude.
But if you say you "just like to work with it" i believe you immediately.

[andsonic]

....and what software does Mr Demetro use? Samplitude! (Sequioa aka Samplitude)

Just thought that was interesting

[mplancke]

Originally Posted by monomer

My comments are mostly about the details.
Which is basicaly how you have recorded/mixed it.
And the mastering engineer has exposed.

Luckily you're not my client or my mastering engineer. They we're all quite pleased with my mixes.

Please feel free to deride their tastes at will.

I'm certain Phil will be glad to answer all of your questions about my work and we will trust that you will share his unedited comments with the group.

Not holding my breath.

Where can we hear something you've done?

Mark

[Leon EA]

Originally Posted by blim

I've noticed that when I'm using Mozilla Firefox, I get a spell check on this forum. When I use Internet Explorer, I do not.

Sorry to hijack, I use FF allthe time, no spell check. But then again, I don't need one. You guys will have to swallow the typos and errors...

[winrar]

Originally Posted by Leon EA

Sorry to hijack, I use FF allthe time, no spell check. But then again, I don't need one. You guys will have to swallow the typos and errors...

no worries mate, its cool,


but you dont wanna piss mark off

Originally Posted by mplancke

I seriously doubt that someone who can't operate a spell checker that's built in to the forum posting mechanism is qualified to do any form of critiquing.
Mark

wqwwwwowowwwwww

and apparently

Originally Posted by mplancke

spell checker built in to the forum posting mechanism

i didnt know that

[taturana]

Originally Posted by blim

Oh man, looks like I arrived late to the party, again.



My favorite kind of gearslutz thread!

My opinion (basically worthless): Null test, shmull-test, different DAWs sound different to me. (But then my hearing only goes up to 14,500 Hz...)

Yes... since the first one i've been part... same tired arguments. certain daws sound different to me. I am particularly very happy with sonar 8.3.1 really made my day when i installed the last (free) update.

Samplitude always sounded pretty nice to me.

[winrar]

Originally Posted by taturana

Yes... since the first one i've been part... same tired arguments. certain daws sound different to me. I am particularly very happy with sonar 8.3.1 really made my day when i installed the last (free) update.

Samplitude always sounded pretty nice to me.

Sonar sucks big time mate...


i was only kidding

[oudplayer]

Still waiting to see if anyone's going to talk about the sound quality of DAWs. Particularly interested in hearing from anyone who has actually made enough mixes with different platforms to have a practical basis towards understanding how "difference" in sound can result from the different workflows each DAW interface encourages. But perhaps I'll need to find another thread where that's discussed...

[winrar]

Originally Posted by oudplayer

Still waiting to see if anyone's going to talk about the sound quality of DAWs. Particularly interested in hearing from anyone who has actually made enough mixes with different platforms to have a practical basis towards understanding how "difference" in sound can result from the different workflows each DAW interface encourages. But perhaps I'll need to find another thread where that's discussed...

you dont need to waste your time, they all sound the same mate.

just join the party,

[winrar]

Originally Posted by mplancke

Luckily you're not my client or my mastering engineer. They we're all quite pleased with my mixes.
Mark

we feel the same mate... we make sure we wont even come close to Detroit/Windsor area

remember what the doctor said, no baked beans


have a nice farting mixes

[Bob800]

Btw, my friend used Cubase SX3 and then switched to Samplitude (can´t remember if it was 9 or 10) and said Samplitude sounds better than Cubase.

I myself use Cubase 4.

[pashatom]

I've been a Cubase user for a number of years and have always loved its ease in work flow. I've always been fascinated in these debates (French word = debattre = to "beat" the other down) on sound quality. I was always comforted by those who assured by mathematics that they are all the same. I just decided to download the demo of Samplitude yesterday and have been quite frustrated when all the cubase shortcuts don't work and having to re-learn everything. However, I can see it has a number of very good features, including some excellent plug-ins.

Personally and having done a few ABs I have to say that Samplitude does for whatever reason sound better. Guitars sound clearer, sharper, mix sounds clearer and less hazy, drums sound more punchy and, believe me, the last thing I want to do is have to buy another DAW let alone have to relearn a new programme.

[cooker]

Originally Posted by Bob800

Btw, my friend used Cubase SX3 and then switched to Samplitude (can´t remember if it was 9 or 10) and said Samplitude sounds better than Cubase.

I myself use Cubase 4.

I totally agree with your friend, I probably stated this before but the sound you got while working with mix and after the bounce aren't the same (though this didn't happen in nuendo 3 but it was expensive/unnecessary for me).

It drove me nuts so I also started to use samplitude.

[joeq]

Originally Posted by oudplayer

Still waiting to see if anyone's going to talk about the sound quality of DAWs. Particularly interested in hearing from anyone who has actually made enough mixes with different platforms to have a practical basis towards understanding how "difference" in sound can result from the different workflows each DAW interface encourages. But perhaps I'll need to find another thread where that's discussed...

I think this is an interesting idea

Unfortunately most, if not all, of the people here claiming 'differences' in sound would be stubbornly unwilling to admit that any part of those perceived differences result from visual feedback, GUI, workflow or really anything other than the sounds their golden ears hear.

Some of them have such amazing hearing that they can confidently state that "Logic sounded better in Nashville than Pro Tools sounded in L.A. using different mics, different monitors, different preamps and different engineers six months apart" So really asking about what the workflow encourages is just going to get you more stories.

My friend says Sonar sounds better.

Cubase is warm and punchy

I have recently been thinking along similar lines as you, but in the opposite direction:
Something more like a test - and that is to REMOVE the GUI and workflow from the equation and force the user to evaluate only with sound.

An interesting test would be to design a plain vanilla software "skin" that would be able to control several DAWs using the exact same (boring) looking interface. The user would be told he is using software A or software B - but that's all. Any features unique to one program would have to be removed. He would have a full set of, say, Waves plugs. so the plugs would be the same on both platforms. Pan laws set the same.

I suppose you could also do it with some kind of hardware controller and no screen


He could do as many "real world" mixes as he wanted and then he would be presented with software "X" which would be one or the other of A or B.

First - he would have to be able to tell whether software "X" was A or B, and then he would be asked which one "sounds" the best. It would be impressive if he could also state with certainty if A or B was Samplitude or whatever his 'favorite' software was.

since these differences are "clearly" audible to these guys, I think they would have no problem acing such a test every time.

Or maybe they would complain that the "skin" was "changing the sound"

[mplancke]

Originally Posted by joeq

since these differences are "clearly" audible to these guys, I think they would have no problem acing such a test every time.

Ultimately, it comes down to work flow and ease of use. For me Samplitude accomplishes that and more.

Yes, I hear a clear difference when I use it, just like I can hear a clear difference between mics, pre-amps and compressors.

I don't feel the need to convince anyone or justify my choices.

YMMV.

Mark

[winrar]

Originally Posted by mplancke

Ultimately, it comes down to work flow and ease of use. For me Samplitude accomplishes that and more.

Yes, I hear a clear difference when I use it, just like I can hear a clear difference between mics, pre-amps and compressors.

I don't feel the need to convince anyone or justify my choices.

YMMV.

Mark

sure you do,
we are already convinced

[gurubuzz]

hOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY QUALIFY TO TALK ABOUT AUDIO

IF YOU CANT TELL WEATHER THE SPELL CHKR IS IN YOURR BROWSER OR FART OF THE FORUN..

HE MUST BE USING fILEFOX AS A BROWZER.

aND HOW CAN HEUSE THOS APO PLUGINS IS BEYOND ME...

[winrar]

i like this colour yummy


yeeaaa yeaaaa we have dowloaded the samp demo too....

you can run cubsae and samp at the same time, with the same audio card,
just make sure you set the same sample rate etc on both.,.
and set the pan law to -3 on both.... on samp dont forget the apply all button
stack same tracks on both.... and flip over between, and listen

if you hear any difference, its your fart mate,,,,


ta very much

[winrar]

we gonna perform the bloody null test and upload on youtube....
at lest, so some old fats can learn haw to perform a null test....


we have no video camere :(

is there any other way i can capture my desk top as video file with audio....
or any cheap internet camera would do the job, i go buy one