More Mistakes on Hit records

[glenn Taylor]

Ok I read the old threads. Here are a few I have heard. 1. Hendrix on Manic Depression. Is he suppose to come in " music sweet music" during solo? 2. Bee Gee s early hit. "I just gotta get a message to you" at the fade on the lp they switch keys and one of them sings 'hold on hold on" way out of tune and another brother goes "oh". Like oh crap stop the tape. 3. Led Zep 1 st album " I can't quit you babe" during the solo do the drums hit the change wrong? let me know GT.

[Paul Hammond]

Hey Glenn,

That's what made all the classic stuff so classic. Knowing the Zep catalog as well as we do, we actually copy the mistakes. Misty Mountain Hop, second verse, Pagey keeps on going with the verse guitar figure, stops abrubtly, then snaps back into the theme riff. The biggest rock and roll moment of all time, the "way down inside" vocal breakdown in Whole Lotta Love, when the band goes from E to A, JPJ is off timing with the rest of the band. Hey, Hey What can I do, when the band kicks in, the acoustic guitar is about an eighth note out with the timing. "Rock and Roll", Page goes to the IV in the progression at the end before it changes, and snaps back to the root. "The Lemon Song" JPJ misses a change. The list goes on and on. The end of the guitar solo in "Dazed and Confused" JPJ still continues the repeating bass line over top of the E, D, A - E, G chords after the solo. It was what they captured, and the feeling and soul that was there can not and will not ever be matched by auto tune, pro tools editing, or any other method of audio manipulation. We will be in Gainesville in June! If you want to check out our little Zeppelin show, PM me and I'll hook you up! Cheers, PH

[AllAboutTone]

Ok here is one, what happens in this song between 0:41-0:48 ? It was not a mistake, they did it on purpose.

YouTube - Cry Of Love - Too Cold In The Winter

[dr_love6977]

Speaking of 'Whole Lotta Love', the delay on the "Way down inside.." part isn't actually delay at all. It's bleed-through on the tape, but it sounds soooo cool. And this isn't really an error, but the cowbell count-off on GNR's 'Think about you' is gated way to quickly. It ends up just sounding like a cheap cut-and-pasted sample.

[DesertDawg]

Originally Posted by AllAboutTone

Ok here is one, what happens in this song between 0:41-0:48 ? It was not a mistake, they did it on purpose.

YouTube - Cry Of Love - Too Cold In The Winter

The drummer flipped the kick & snare around for a couple of measures. And???

[glenn Taylor]

Originally Posted by Paul Hammond

Hey Glenn,

That's what made all the classic stuff so classic. Knowing the Zep catalog as well as we do, we actually copy the mistakes. Misty Mountain Hop, second verse, Pagey keeps on going with the verse guitar figure, stops abrubtly, then snaps back into the theme riff. The biggest rock and roll moment of all time, the "way down inside" vocal breakdown in Whole Lotta Love, when the band goes from E to A, JPJ is off timing with the rest of the band. Hey, Hey What can I do, when the band kicks in, the acoustic guitar is about an eighth note out with the timing. "Rock and Roll", Page goes to the IV in the progression at the end before it changes, and snaps back to the root. "The Lemon Song" JPJ misses a change. The list goes on and on. The end of the guitar solo in "Dazed and Confused" JPJ still continues the repeating bass line over top of the E, D, A - E, G chords after the solo. It was what they captured, and the feeling and soul that was there can not and will not ever be matched by auto tune, pro tools editing, or any other method of audio manipulation. We will be in Gainesville in June! If you want to check out our little Zeppelin show, PM me and I'll hook you up! Cheers, PH

Talk about trivia. Why is there a ghost vocal ahead of Robert Plants ?"Way down inside". Is that the needle picking up the next groove before it happens? I think not storing a tape tails out would cause print through which sounds like a pre ghost.
GT.

[glenn Taylor]

Originally Posted by AllAboutTone

Ok here is one, what happens in this song between 0:41-0:48 ? It was not a mistake, they did it on purpose.

YouTube - Cry Of Love - Too Cold In The Winter

Good band. That guy has a great voice. Time not 4/4. Song subject is why I moved to Ca. in the 70,s then Fl. Too much snow,ice and road accidents. Nothing to to but write and play good rockin roll. did you record that?

GT.

[dr_love6977]

Originally Posted by glenn Taylor

Talk about trivia. Why is there a ghost vocal ahead of Robert Plants ?"Way down inside". Is that the needle picking up the next groove before it happens? I think not storing a tape tails out would cause print through which sounds like a pre ghost.
GT.

See post #4.

[Paul Hammond]

Yes Glenn, I think dr_love6977 got that one! it's bleed through from the scratch vocal track. And looking at your profile I see you have worked with some of my old friends, Davey and Fran! Small world! Peace, PH

[glenn Taylor]

Originally Posted by Paul Hammond

Yes Glenn, I think dr_love6977 got that one! it's bleed through from the scratch vocal track. And looking at your profile I see you have worked with some of my old friends, Davey and Fran! Small world! Peace, PH

Yes Uman and Fran. Do you know those guys from Ca. or east coast.
Gt.

[lakeshorephatty]

[QUOTE=glenn Taylor;39528633. Led Zep 1 st album " I can't quit you babe" during the solo do the drums hit the change wrong? let me know GT.[/QUOTE]

Actually, its been awhile since i've heard that, but my recollection from internal clock is that Page is busy soloing and hits the change a bar or so early then bonham and JPJ have to adapt quickly!

Russell

[Smithcok]

(not really one of the "old classics", but the record sold a lot of copies)

In some Evanescence songs (My Immortal comes to mind), there are some botched vocal edits where you can hear breaths being cut off.

[AllAboutTone]

Originally Posted by glenn Taylor

Good band. That guy has a great voice. Time not 4/4. Song subject is why I moved to Ca. in the 70,s then Fl. Too much snow,ice and road accidents. Nothing to to but write and play good rockin roll. did you record that?

GT.

No but I wished I had been apart of that band, they are my favorite. Look them up on YouTube , songs are amazing, did you notice how the drummer plays?

[Cameron Johnson]

He's a lefty who plays traditional on a right-handed kit... nothing wrong with that, lol - though it DOES look weird, haha.

Beatles's Let it Be, I remember there being a botched chord in there somewhere that they kept in - muzak to my ear! :o

[Kas]

How about the glitch noise in the middle of "Dream On" during the fingerpicked guitar part? Bad edit? Thats bugged me for 30 years.

[dawnfirst]

OK this isn't actually a 'mistake', but I always found it really cool
if you turn it up you can hear the click track at the start of
welcome to the black parade by my chemical romance.


Well it amuses me anyway

[dr_love6977]

Originally Posted by Kas

How about the glitch noise in the middle of "Dream On" during the fingerpicked guitar part? Bad edit? Thats bugged me for 30 years.

There's a couple of notes that weren't fretted properly in there too, so they get the "plink" sound, but damn, you cannot mess with that song.

[Never1]

Sweet Child O' Mine by GnR has Adler hitting the Hi hat on his first downbeat after the intro build up (0:31) and then quickly going over to his ride. I always assumed it was a mistake but they just left it. He probbaly forgot what song he was playing lol.

[author]

Originally Posted by Paul Hammond

The biggest rock and roll moment of all time, the "way down inside" vocal breakdown in Whole Lotta Love,

Hm, quite a statement.

However, it may be true. Could be worth exploring in an other thread...

[Sacalait]

Every time I hear the guitar solo in "Taking Care of Business" I cringe. I'm almost in awe of how one of the most popular rock bands of the '70's could actually allow something so blatantly out of tune to go onto a release. ...and then become a smash freakin' hit record!...

[glenn Taylor]

Ok I have two more mistake on a hit records. I was just there at Sun Recording studio in Memphis TN. I saw the x on the floor where Elvis stood and where the two other guys stood when they recorded "Thats alright Moma".
rock n roll was almost invented from the creation of this song. Sam Phillips was looking for a new sound. That day he was in a bad mood. He thought they were not getting it.
Then during a break while Elvis and the guys were messing around during a break Sam heard the sound he was looking for. Rock n roll would never be the same. I guess one could say rock n roll was invented out of a mistake. Or atleast a fluke.
Same with the Beatles. Brain Ep had been turned down by all the record companies. On a last ditch effort he went to George Martin. George Martin didn't really like the Beatles recordings that much. What he liked was hearing the boys joking around on the 1 st recording he heard of them. This fluke or mistake led to the biggest band in the world being born.
GT.

[Gravity]

In Alanis' Jagged Little Pill album, on 'See Right Through You' there is a serious timing error on the vocals where she pushes the beat by a good 1/8th note. I always loved that. Added to the already raw feel of that album.

[imloggedin]

kings of leon - use somebody.. listen to it on a good system, horrible digital clipping sound on the vox all the way through, i cant believe this went through. :\ song is still a huge hit, oh well.

[Guruceta]

at the beginning of "Addicted to that rush" (mr. big/Mr. BIg) you can hear Pat counting and suddenly the metronome gets in the recording...don't think it's a mistake as nor Pat, Paul, Billy or Eric probably make them recording (they are closer to machines with mojo than musicians, their playing is not human!!) but It was kind a surprise the first time I heard it.

[Guruceta]

Originally Posted by Never1

Sweet Child O' Mine by GnR has Adler hitting the Hi hat on his first downbeat after the intro build up (0:31) and then quickly going over to his ride. I always assumed it was a mistake but they just left it. He probbaly forgot what song he was playing lol.

hahaha, just heard it!! amazing!

[corworld]

The Stones - Love In Vain off Let it Bleed has a delivery truck driving by Olympic Studios at the very beginning of the song.

Always made me look out the window when I listened to the album.

[erock]

Christina Auguilera - "Beautiful." You can hear the original music track they had intended for the song bleeding to the mic from her headphones. when she sings, especially softly. I remember hearing her say it was a song with drums and guitar and stuff, so listen for it.

Same thing about the piano intro to the song "Graduation Day" by Head Automatica

Auto Tune flubs on Daughtry cd and the "Gotta Be Somebody" by Nickelback.

[theblotted]

Originally Posted by erock

Christina Auguilera - "Beautiful." You can hear the original music track they had intended for the song bleeding to the mic from her headphones. when she sings, especially softly. I remember hearing her say it was a song with drums and guitar and stuff, so listen for it.

there's a big thread here on GS where Dave Pensado explains about the headphone bleed, so search for it.

[stevens119]

You can totally hear where the engineer spliced the tape on Steve Millers "Fly Like An Eagle". If I remember correctly it's the second verse. It's right after he sing fly like an eagle the first time in the chorus in which it happens. It's super noticeable too. Could have been a bad drum punch.

I also have noticed in Elvis Costello's "Veronica" in the bridge you can hear a super noticable punch.

[doorknocker]

This will keep you busy and entertained for days: Steve's Beatles Page - What Goes On? (The Beatles Anomaly List)