Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56

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@mikeyrad

we had a thread about it on duc

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i hope it will answer your question

[mikeyrad]

@dot. yes it did thank you for the info

[wefandango]

Originally Posted by Chris Focusrite

This sounds like it could be related to the FireWire driver you're using. Please contact support here: The Official Source for Focusrite Product Support and Information .: Focusrite Answerbase and we will look into your issue further.

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Best regards,

Chris
Focusrite Support

Chris, thank you for your suggestion but I have already been in touch with the support team (Joe Noël and Justin Shoub) to no avail. If it was a driver issue, how would I remedy that since I am on a Mac?

I hope my dealer has a good return policy. This thing has cost me more downtime in the studio than any other piece of gear I've owned.

[Chris Focusrite]

Originally Posted by wefandango

Chris, thank you for your suggestion but I have already been in touch with the support team (Joe Noël and Justin Shoub) to no avail. If it was a driver issue, how would I remedy that since I am on a Mac?

I hope my dealer has a good return policy. This thing has cost me more downtime in the studio than any other piece of gear I've owned.

Sorry to hear this. Could you send me your email address or case number in a private message and I'll look into this further for you?

Best regards,

Chris
Focusrite Support

[Chris Focusrite]

Originally Posted by wefandango

Chris, thank you for your suggestion but I have already been in touch with the support team (Joe Noël and Justin Shoub) to no avail. If it was a driver issue, how would I remedy that since I am on a Mac?

I hope my dealer has a good return policy. This thing has cost me more downtime in the studio than any other piece of gear I've owned.

Just to clarify, in my previous message I meant FireWire hard drive not driver.

Chris

[skyhisoundz]

Im new around hope this is the right forum,
Would anyone care to remove the mystery around the settings
for LS56 MixControl, Firewire Driver Latency: Short ,Medium Long...or Very Long, ? Do these relate to numeric values somewhere,http://www.gearslutz.com/board/image...s/facepalm.gif

[Chris Focusrite]

Originally Posted by skyhisoundz

Im new around hope this is the right forum,
Would anyone care to remove the mystery around the settings
for LS56 MixControl, Firewire Driver Latency: Short ,Medium Long...or Very Long, ? Do these relate to numeric values somewhere,http://www.gearslutz.com/board/image...s/facepalm.gif

Hi skyhisoundz,

The FireWire driver latency changes a safety buffer for the LS56's FireWire driver. It's similar to the audio buffer for your software but is another buffer for hardware communication across FireWire. The same principles apply as for an audio buffer: the shorter is the lower the latency but the greater chance of dropouts; the higher it is the higher the latency but lower chance of dropouts. In most situations you should be able to have this on 'short' but if you're experiencing dropouts or glitches you can set it higher.

Best regards,

Chris
Focusrite Support

[N. Balauro]

Originally Posted by Chris Focusrite

Hi skyhisoundz,

The FireWire driver latency changes a safety buffer for the LS56's FireWire driver. It's similar to the audio buffer for your software but is another buffer for hardware communication across FireWire. The same principles apply as for an audio buffer: the shorter is the lower the latency but the greater chance of dropouts; the higher it is the higher the latency but lower chance of dropouts. In most situations you should be able to have this on 'short' but if you're experiencing dropouts or glitches you can set it higher.

Best regards,

Chris
Focusrite Support

Was just wonderin about this setting this morning when i noticed it. How coincidental i come to gs and click new posts and see this thread and the answer to my question! Thx Chris :p

[dfahb44]

I'm getting a unit from a friend who used it once for 200$.

I'm going to be expanding it with my current Saffire Pro40, should be fun! Any issues with drivers?

[WessWest]

Hey fellas this is my first post! I wanted some input and opinion from you knowledgeable gents. I just recently purchased a LS56 and was looking for options to incorporate it in my current setup. Mac Pro 10.6.8, PT10/Logic Pro, digi 002c, Modified Golden Age Pre-73, TLM 103. I mainly produce on my MPC 2500 and Roland Fatnom X6 for now even tho I just picked up a NI Maschine(still learning). I got the LS56 because I wanted to upgrade from the 002 pres. So for my mic I wanted to go in my Pre-73 to a LS56 liquid channel and use the pre emulation. So how do I get this accomplished? Am I able to use the emulation if the 002 is master and LS56 is adat clock source. Or does the LS56 have o be the master and 002 in stand alone? Do both 002/LS56 have to be connected firewire or only one and the other on adat. I would like to keep the 002 control surface, but I have to be able to use the LS56 emulated pres. Is this possible or not so much, I really dont need 28 I/Os 16-18 is good for what I'm currently doing. Any feedback on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

[dkelley]

Originally Posted by dfahb44

I'm getting a unit from a friend who used it once for 200$.

I'm going to be expanding it with my current Saffire Pro40, should be fun! Any issues with drivers?

hey, not fair!!! what a steal!

[WessWest]

Originally Posted by WessWest

Hey fellas this is my first post! I wanted some input and opinion from you knowledgeable gents. I just recently purchased a LS56 and was looking for options to incorporate it in my current setup. Mac Pro 10.6.8, PT10/Logic Pro, digi 002c, Modified Golden Age Pre-73, TLM 103. I mainly produce on my MPC 2500 and Roland Fatnom X6 for now even tho I just picked up a NI Maschine(still learning). I got the LS56 because I wanted to upgrade from the 002 pres. So for my mic I wanted to go in my Pre-73 to a LS56 liquid channel and use the pre emulation. So how do I get this accomplished? Am I able to use the emulation if the 002 is master and LS56 is adat clock source. Or does the LS56 have o be the master and 002 in stand alone? Do both 002/LS56 have to be connected firewire or only one and the other on adat. I would like to keep the 002 control surface, but I have to be able to use the LS56 emulated pres. Is this possible or not so much, I really dont need 28 I/Os 16-18 is good for what I'm currently doing. Any feedback on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Just wanted some feedback before I start installing and changing the channel my mic is on

[dickiefunk]

I currently use a Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 DSP here and love it. Great conversion, pres, dsp mixer and fx.

It seems to me that Focusrite now have experience in so many areas for them to make one serious killer interface.

I would love to see and audio interface incorporating their best of their designs similar to this :-

1/ 2 (or more) channels of their best pres ( ISA ) + DI's

2/ 2 (or more) channels of their Liquid pres + DI's

3/ A/D + D/A quality from their ISA converter cards

4/ Liquid Compressors on all channels that can be used to record into DAW or used purely for monitoring or both (similar to the dsp compressor idea in the pro24 dsp)

5/ DSP Reverb for monitoring (from the pro24 dsp)

6/ VRM (from the pro24 dsp or VRM)

7/ similar dsp mixer from the current saffire range

8/ line inputs that bypass the pres

9/ multiple monitor outputs controlled by a monitor select button

10/ talkback mic/input



Focusrite are producing most of this stuff already in separate products and if there is a way to pack all this goodness into one product I fell they would have an awesome product!?

[icecubeman]

Yesterday I had opportunity to record through Liquid 56, so I tried liquid pres. After some testing I found that Millennia emulation {New Age 1} is really killer sounding. Especially on rap.

[mykhal c]

Originally Posted by Chris Focusrite

Hi skyhisoundz,

The FireWire driver latency changes a safety buffer for the LS56's FireWire driver. It's similar to the audio buffer for your software but is another buffer for hardware communication across FireWire. The same principles apply as for an audio buffer: the shorter is the lower the latency but the greater chance of dropouts; the higher it is the higher the latency but lower chance of dropouts. In most situations you should be able to have this on 'short' but if you're experiencing dropouts or glitches you can set it higher.

Best regards,

Chris
Focusrite Support

hey Chris. i'm lookin' at pickin' up a 56 but i'd like a bit more info on the F/W latency setting please. in my case i'm usin' a 002 console now as my PT dongle (digital I/O from other gear to 002) and for the most part i can record at 64 buffer without issues. how much more latency does the Focusrite F/W setting add to the audio buffer setting? or does it? i'm a bit confused on the impact of this setting. thanks

[Chris Focusrite]

Originally Posted by mykhal c

hey Chris. i'm lookin' at pickin' up a 56 but i'd like a bit more info on the F/W latency setting please. in my case i'm usin' a 002 console now as my PT dongle (digital I/O from other gear to 002) and for the most part i can record at 64 buffer without issues. how much more latency does the Focusrite F/W setting add to the audio buffer setting? or does it? i'm a bit confused on the impact of this setting. thanks

Hi,

It's separate to the audio buffer size but I wouldn't say it significantly increases the overall latency, especially when on the shortest setting. The device you're currently using most likely has something similar even if the settings aren't apparent to the user, so you should be able to achieve similar performance.

Best regards,

Chris

[mykhal c]

Originally Posted by Chris Focusrite

Hi,

It's separate to the audio buffer size but I wouldn't say it significantly increases the overall latency, especially when on the shortest setting. The device you're currently using most likely has something similar even if the settings aren't apparent to the user, so you should be able to achieve similar performance.

Best regards,

Chris

thanks Chris. one more question regardin' the ADAT settings. is it possible to set the ADAT1 to toslink and ADAT2 to SPDIF? i read a review by someone where i walked away thinkin' this. is this an accurate takeaway on my part? or did i miss interpret the review? it would be great if this is actually a settings option. thanks again.

[Chris Focusrite]

Originally Posted by mykhal c

thanks Chris. one more question regardin' the ADAT settings. is it possible to set the ADAT1 to toslink and ADAT2 to SPDIF? i read a review by someone where i walked away thinkin' this. is this an accurate takeaway on my part? or did i miss interpret the review? it would be great if this is actually a settings option. thanks again.

You can set ADAT1 to ADAT and ADAT2 to Optical SPDIF, yes.

[adrianww]

At the risk of going off on a tangent...

Does anyone know how to set the bit-depth (16-bit, 24-bit) on an LS56? Is it actually possible to do it or does it just run at 24-bit all the time? Or does it pick up bit-depth from your DAW via the ASIO driver? (Or something even more complicated - like my old Yamaha n12 that, apparently, automatically runs at 16-bits if its sample rate is set to 44.1/48 and 24-bits if the sample rate is set to 88.2/96, or so Yamaha/Steinberg told me).

Also, does anyone know whether a Focusrite VRM box will happily coexist with an LS56? And, if so, are you better off connecting the VRM to the computer via USB for its audio or connecting it to the LS56 via S/PDIF for its audio? (I assume that it will need to be connected to the PC via USB for control purposes anyway, but am wondering about the audio side of the connection.)

Thanks in advance for any help folks.

[mykhal c]

Originally Posted by Chris Focusrite

You can set ADAT1 to ADAT and ADAT2 to Optical SPDIF, yes.

excellent!! thanks again Chris...56 keeps on gettin' better lookin' by the day

[AshleySmith06]

Originally Posted by AshleySmith06

Would be nice to see how that sounds and get some feedback from Focusrite on the subject too.

Cheers

Originally Posted by SEA

Yeah... I found out from my Sweetwater rep they recommend a direct box and run your guitar through it then into the pres.

He recommended this one. It's the one he uses.
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ProD2/

He went on to say "would prefer the
Active J48 version but it is more expensive (200.00 per channel)."

Did anyone test this to enable use of the pre's with a guitar D.I.'d?

Chris, can you recommend anything for this application?

[drummernyc]

I am using logic 9 with liquid saffire 56. I am having a lot of latency issues. When I play to a track or just the click from Logic it is hard to play with. I am tracking 8 channels of drums. I was hoping someone here knows how to get Logic 9 and liquid saffire 56 optimized for zero latency. I set the software from the saffire to zero latency and moved my buffer down to 32 in Logic.

My gear is a Mac Pro 2.8 quad core
4 gigs of Ram

[dkr]

Logic buffer set to 32 can be a problem with Firewire, try 64 or 128. Do you use any plugins/ software instruments when recording?
Can you add more RAM?

[drummernyc]

Yes, I have it at 32. Can that make for latency? I dont use any plug-ins when recording.

[AshleySmith06]

Originally Posted by AshleySmith06

Did anyone test this to enable use of the pre's with a guitar D.I.'d?

Chris, can you recommend anything for this application?

Radial ProD2 | Sweetwater.com

Bump!!

[mikeyrad]

@chris from focusrite or anybody that knows.

I'm trying to use my ada8000 for hardware inserts, will it work or can only use the outputs from my ls56?

Tried it last night with no luck, but didn't have alot of time to work on it.

If someone has done it with an adat interface, lemme know how thanks!

[Chris Focusrite]

Originally Posted by mikeyrad

@chris from focusrite or anybody that knows.

I'm trying to use my ada8000 for hardware inserts, will it work or can only use the outputs from my ls56?

Tried it last night with no luck, but didn't have alot of time to work on it.

If someone has done it with an adat interface, lemme know how thanks!

Hi Mike,

You'll need to set up Saffire MixControl for this routing. I recommend contacting us here if you need help with this: The Official Source for Focusrite Product Support and Information .: Focusrite Answerbase

Please let us know exactly how the ada8000 is connected to the Liquid Saffire 56.

Best regards,

Chris
Focusrite

[AshleySmith06]

Hey Chris,

Any word on hooking up a guitar to the liquid pre's via a DI Box with variable impedance control?

[Jackson Collins]

Hey Chris,

Any future plans for focusrite to bring out any new or mkII models of your interfaces?

I'd jump on a Liquid 56 with built in reverb, being able to midi control mix control, and to have more then 18 channels in mic control!

Just thought I'd ask.

[Puffpastry]

Not a Liquid Saffire 56 MkII already , I haven't had mine for very long. I just got over seeing the UA Apollo and wishing I could own that one.