Would this AD/DA set up work well for my goals?

[rjx]

First I would like to say that I am not asking how good the Lavry converters are. After a lot of searching around on this site, and others, I am confident that Lavry are the converters that I would like to go with. What I would like to know is if I have everything set up properly?? And if not, could you please help me get on track?

My goals are to improve the quality going in and out of the computer and I would also like to improve my monitoring.
Here is how I did things before...

2408 --> Mackie --> HR824's for monitoring.
And for tracking I would just go directly into the 2408 and that would be it.

I have replaced the 2408 with a Lynx card, and I would like to sell off the Mackie. No more Mackie!! I have also added a Masterlink to the set up.

Now I was thinking that I could go into the Lavry A/D --> Lynx for tracking.
And for monitoring Lynx --> Lavry D/A --> Control Station /or Coleman M3PH --> HR824's
Of course I would like to use the Masterlink for my mixes, so I would need a 4x output D/A right? I would like to hit great converters before going into the Masterlink.

What do you think?

[DirkB]

I think the Lavry DA should be able to drive two stereo loads, i.e. no need to have 4 DA's, just some sort of splitter (could be done with half-normalled patches). But you could ask Dan over at his Prorec forum.

Good luck,
Dirk

P.S. Personally, to upgrade your monitoring I'd start with replacing the HR824's...

[warhead]

I know the Lucid stuff has dual simultaneous outputs on the DA9624 (TRS and XLR) which is handy.

You appear to be wanting to convert to analog before your Masterlink. I'd think that what you'd want to do is send digital from your Lynx to the Masterlink so you don't use the Masterlink's converters? You could then send digital from the Masterlink to the Lavry D--->A converter for monitoring.

War

[rjx]

Originally Posted by DirkB

But you could ask Dan over at his Prorec forum. .

Thanks man, I forgot about Lavry's forum. I am not a fan of cross posting, but I think I will make an exception ;)

[ImJohn]

Hi,

I recently repalced my MOTU stuff this year with Lynx and Lavry and I also have a Coleman M3PH.

Which Lynx card do you have ( I have the AES16 ) and how many channels of converters are you going to get?

As Warren said I think you'd be better off not doing a D/A before the Masterlink, just run the digital out from the Lynx to it. If you have an AES16 then it's simple because you have multiple digital outs and you can route a pair to both the Masterlink and the Lavry.

During one of my sluttiest buying sprees ever, besides the Lynx and Lavry I got a Little Labs digital router. It's as handy, well made, well thought out and indespensible to me as the Coleman M3PH in my humble opinion. Check it out :
http://www.littlelabs.com/digirr.html

With mine I've connected a pair of I/O from the Lynx, a pair of A/D and D/A from the Lavry, the I/O from my Sony R500 DAT and the output from my CD/DVD player. It's really nice because I can listen to CDs and DAT's through the Lavry without firing up the computer to use the AES16 routing etc.

[ImJohn]

I forgot to mention that besides Dan Lavry's forum on ProSoundWeb, Lavry Engeneering has their own company forum now :
http://www.lavryengineering.com/lavry_forum/

It was up for a month or so then some hackers killed it but it's back again.

[rjx]

Hi John

I have yet to post anything over in Lavry's forum, maybe now I won't have to since you seem to be where I am trying to get to

Which Lynx card do you have ( I have the AES16 ) and how many channels of converters are you going to get?

I have the Lynx 2 4x4 card. I have not opened it yet, so I could always take it back and get the AES 16 card if that would be better for my needs.

Besides my upgrade goals, here is what I would like to be able to do once its all said and done.
Track with 2 channels of high quality a/d
Be capable of going out and back ITB from time to time
Monitor the tracking and playback
Use the MasterLink with my monitors

So for what I am looking to do would this diagram work for me?


Would 2 channels of D/A work for me? Or would I need a few more?

Thanks for help everyone

[ImJohn]

Hi rjx,

I need to go to bed but real quick . . ..


for a minimum setup you could go one of several ways :

1) Stereo Lavry AD/DA + Lynx 2 + AES router ( like the Little Labs or a Z-Systems )

2) Stereo Lavry AD/DA + Lynx 2 + Lynx LS-AES add on card for your Lynx 2

3) Quad Lavry AD/DA + Lynx AES16


Basically you need two pairs of AD and DA if you are going to use external effects because you have to be able to monitor what you are doing. With 1 or 2 you can use the Lynx 2's I/O for effects processing etc while you monitor out the Lavry DA.

The Lynx software has some really powerful routing ability so if you don't mind having your computer on all the time you can just use the Lynx as the router. ( but you'll need either the LS-AES add on card or a AES16 card by itself so you'll have enough I/O to plug everything in at once.

. . .man . . I need to sleep!

Lynx also has a support forum ;
http://www.lynxstudio.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=2

[rjx]

John, I really appreciate you're help.

I decided to forget about going OTB. I basically wanted to have the option for the future, but honestly I would hardly go OTB very much at all. Having to buy extra converters in my financial situation for something that I would barely use wouldn't be very smart on my part. If I needed extra converters for the other things I want to do, then that would be a different story.


Lets say that I go with option #3 and replace the quad with a stereo ad/da ;)

#1. I would go digital out from the Lynx to the Masterlink
#2. Connect the ad/da to the Lynx
#3. Connect the Masterlink to the ad/da
#4. Connect the M3PH to the ad/da

OK, just to make sure that I understand everything, which can be hard for me at times
Am I correct with steps 1-4?


Thanks,
RJ

[rjx]

[ImJohn]

Hey! I was trying to sleep but that bouncy thing kept bouncing around making a racket! ;-)

Lets say that I go with option #3 and replace the quad with a stereo ad/da ;)

#1. I would go digital out from the Lynx to the Masterlink
#2. Connect the ad/da to the Lynx
#3. Connect the Masterlink to the ad/da
#4. Connect the M3PH to the ad/da

Pretty much although I'd think of it like this :

The Lynx AES16 would be your digital portal in and out of your computer and also your digital router, so all of your digial I/O from the Masterlink and the Lavry converters connect to it at the same time. With the Lynx control panel you can route say, the digital output from the Lynx into the digital input of a Lavry DA, with near zero latency. ( no interaction with your recording software needed.) Also you'll be able to to connect up the output of a CD player etc too.

Then connect the analog out of the Lavry DA and Masterlink to the Coleman M3PH and the output of the Coleman to your monitors or monitor amp. ( most of the time you'll just be listening to the Lavry DA but if your computer is off you'll still be able to listen to the Masterlink.

Then connect a patchbay to the analog ins of your Lavry ADs so you can patch in that $100,000.00 mountain of chub inducing mic pres and outboard gear that you know you MUST get SOON or else you'll die or kill somone! ( maybe several people! )

[rjx]

Originally Posted by ImJohn

Hey! I was trying to sleep but that bouncy thing kept bouncing around making a racket! ;-)




Pretty much although I'd think of it like this :

The Lynx AES16 would be your digital portal in and out of your computer and also your digital router, so all of your digial I/O from the Masterlink and the Lavry converters connect to it at the same time. With the Lynx control panel you can route say, the digital output from the Lynx into the digital input of a Lavry DA, with near zero latency. ( no interaction with your recording software needed.) Also you'll be able to to connect up the output of a CD player etc too.

Then connect the analog out of the Lavry DA and Masterlink to the Coleman M3PH and the output of the Coleman to your monitors or monitor amp. ( most of the time you'll just be listening to the Lavry DA but if your computer is off you'll still be able to listen to the Masterlink.

Then connect a patchbay to the analog ins of your Lavry ADs so you can patch in that $100,000.00 mountain of chub inducing mic pres and outboard gear that you know you MUST get SOON or else you'll die or kill somone! ( maybe several people! )

LOL

John, I greatly appreciate you're help.

I feel like a load has been lifted off of my back, seriously. Now its time to lift the load out of my wallet and get down to business ;)

Thanks again for the help

rj