Originally Posted by HomeProducer
I have mixed feelings about these monitors.
I dipped the hights by 2 dB down (after some dull mixes, seems to be the case for everybody).
I put the bass down by 6 dB (bass tilt), since they are not too far
from the wall (30 cm : speaker backside to wall) and I measured the flattest response for this setting. The bass was measured to be quite flat. Hights seem ok and upper mids also. Lower mids are soso.
Everytime I mix on the Genelecs and feel satisfied and switch to some KRK V8
, the mix sounds tubby and/or upper-mid-forward. The V8
have a sort of NS-10 sound.
The 8050s alone do not deliver for me the degree of mix quality that I expect.
I have to correct certain things on the KRKs (standing behind me) and adams a7
(also installed on the right wall). The low end .. also sometimes seems to be slightly compressed? Maybe it is because of the home studio with moderate room treatment. Somehow phase response seems to be an issue on these monitors.
Also weird: With the hights dipped 2 dB down, I am unable to adequately use a de-esser and have
to correct using some hs50m
or the krks. I dont hear the s-louds as aggressive as they are.
Weird monitors, but I love them anyway.
For strange reasons, mastering is easier for me than mixing on the 8050.
Hi About the "treble too much thing" i would suggest leave a bit more distance from your ear to 8050a if you are going to use it as a main speaker. (you probabely don't wannt listen to it like a headphone)
The bass problem can be solute by applying a bit more bass trap at the corner. (check realtrap or auralex for different purpose).
I personally like to use Genelec without the filter on and the only one i turn on is the "Desktop dip" mode thing and i found that one most useful.
About how to Desser with Genelec is the trick....Genelec 8050 should has better top high end compare to 1031 or 1032. So basically try A/B between your ns10m
and Genelec 8050.
NS10m! if NS10M
says it's perfect, it could be a bit dull (over-dessering).
If 8050a says it's perfect on the top end , then i think u are safe.
(with enough distance, the treble top end shouldn't sound as harash or overemphasis as your previous experience).
The most important to check when you finish with 8050 is to check your mix reverb tail with NS10m
to see if you fade out nicely. Yamaha seems to emphasis the tail thing while very often Genelec just let go those.
One more thing to check is to see if you are missing low in NS10m
What sounds "complete" in 8050 might not be complete yet in NS10m
especially the low at 100hz area. Genelec 8050a
is so deep that sometimes you forget to pay attention at your 100hz-200hz area (NS10m can't read much below 100hz so this area is the key area for ns10m's bottom).
everytime you finish your mix in 8050a, check bottom with ns10m
, check your reverb tails and fade out (breathing fades as well) with ns10m/A7, then ONE MORE CHECK WITH 8050a, then you are SAFE.