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| Gear addict Joined: Feb 2008
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Thread Starter | Why are you compressing?
Can u explain which are the reason for compressing? 1) DINAMIC REASON .....................? |
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| Gear nut Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Lancaster, OH
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are we talking mixing or tracking? In tracking I use compressors to make sure I don't hit the convertors too hard. In mixing, I use compressors (all plugins) more often for the tone or color of the compressor, no so much for level control. Of course if I owned high end hardware comps I might do things a little differently.... |
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| Lives for gear Joined: May 2005 Location: Albany, New York
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The basic, overall reason is that real life has a dynamic range of something like 150 decibels, whereas the playback of recorded audio pretty much needs to operate within a range of about 30 decibels-- zero being the deafeningly loudest you can attain, and 30 dB down from that being pretty durn quiet. So with compression, you can create the illusion of sound levels rising and falling in a "natural" way--and you'll know when it's done correctly by not being able to tell anything was done at all.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2006 Location: San Fransisco , BayArea
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For an effect , give excitement to a kind boring sound,
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| Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2007 Location: VA
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| Lives for gear Joined: May 2005
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1. Close mic'ing is unnaturally sensitive and dynamic. It sounds wrong on playback. 2. To balance dynamics between instruments so things aren't popping in and out all over the place. 3. For cool effects. |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Durham, NC
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Because they told me to...and I listened. Join my new cause: Fathers Understanding that Compression Kills This madness needs to stop...please join me and Sallie Struthers and fight compression now... |
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| Gear addict Joined: Oct 2005 Location: west coast yo
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| ...because it would be a shame not to use all of these compressors that I spent good money on. DD
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| Gear maniac Joined: Jun 2008 Location: Amsterdam
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| because we can... with an endless amount of compressor plugins on every channel. ![]() I highly recommend reading Bob Katz; mastering audio. the man has so much to tell about the (ab)use of compression. Camerondye, I'm with ya, compression is a great tool but often abused IMHO. I prefer a couple of db here and there (mainly vox and bass) But in some cases I like to SMASH one of the tracks into oblivion, as an soundeffect (1176 in all buttons mode). Or use limiting in case there's an occasional annoying peak that I want to catch. In most cases I prefer no or little compression. When mixing, I first try to get a nice balance just by moving the faders, panning and muting. And then use subtle eq and compression as problem fixers. |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2006
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Because when I get it right, it sounds great.
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| Lives for gear Joined: May 2007
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I've fallen in love with the SSL Buss compressor on the mix buss and drum buss (minus oh's and room mics). A mix I did today has almost 8db of compression at times, on the masterbuss and it's barely even noticeable. It just keeps everything glued together in a very pleasant way. If I were to just slap the thing on at the end of a mix, that would be a different story. I compress things because it sounds good when done right. |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2005
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I use really macho heavy compression on a room mic to make it all booooosshhhhhh craaaaaaaannnnnnnnnkkkkkksssss boooooooshh craaaaaaaaanks" That's pretty much what I use it for. Regards. |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2007 Location: Mountain View, CA
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ON a live gig, so you dont have to worry about the crazy performers as much, or to taim a ridiculously loud guitar player who thinks that he is bonJovi.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2004 Location: usa
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it is the sound of rock and roll. best, jchristopherhughes |
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| Gear addict Joined: Jan 2008 Location: Sunny Woodland Hills
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I use it to make things sound bigger and fatter.
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| Gear maniac Joined: Dec 2007 Location: New Joisey
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Either for an effect sometimes, keep a track level consistent, or to *ever so slightly* glue a mix together. I'm not a big fan of today's squashed mixes, and prefer a nice dynamic 1970's type result. It's more work, and it's worth it.
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| Gear Guru Joined: Mar 2005 Location: Long Beach, CA
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I use compression on individual tracks for the same reason you do a facial close-up in a movie... I use buss compression in relatively small doses -- mostly to augment gain-riding fader automation -- to help keep everything more or less squished into place in the mix.
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to. make. it. all. fit. in!!! ![]() srsly though, I like it often as an effect. In heavy music I use it for weight and clarity. I compress a lot less on "vibey stuff" and use it to pump trippy drum tracks. I also tend to stack gentle compression rather than use a single heavier compression. I like the feel better, not so heavy handed. |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2003 Location: Belgium
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I don't know why this pops in my head while reading this thread, but somewhat related: My grandfather was a German flute player and recorded in the early days (I'm talking 30ies, 40ies). He told me once they had to play symphonies several times in the studio so that they got tired and played with less dynamics - now THAT's compression Compression helps me hide the fact that I'm not a good mixer. Oh yeah, and I don't find it with the SSL comp, which says more about me than about the SSL Quad ![]() Herwig
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| Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2005
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Compress if you want to arguement the attack or release of a signal compress if you want to smash some signals and want to bring in if you want to make sth loud and are ok with the tone, take a clean limiter |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Eastern Ozarks
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To tame that high note I sang loud to hit, but didn't lean back enough, or that overexhuberant strum skank.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Memphis TN
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Be kind to the listener's ears, don't make them strain to hear unless it's appropriate and don't make them wince to get away either. Some engineers mix like they have a grip on this. Some don't. They may actually have a grip, but, they don't use it much, because of pressure. I'd like to compress that.
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| Gear addict Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Gosford, Australia
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| Gear Guru Joined: Mar 2005 Location: Long Beach, CA
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But like a movie with too many close-ups -- using too much compression on everything is, indeed, irritating. ![]() | |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2005 Location: New York City
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I compress if it sounds better compressed. Sometimes for flavor, sometimes for dynamic control, sometimes for envelope shaping, sometimes for loudness, sometimes because it just seems like the right thing to do. Sometimes I don't compress.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2008
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I hear that decompression can be a lot more dangerous tutt
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| | #29 |
| Lives for gear |
The more I do it the more I compress just slightly. Mostly I mix if it is not rock music without compression on single tracks. In this case the tune turns out more naturally.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Memphis TN
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I think I'm going to record and mix one with absolutely no compression anywhere on it on purpose, just to see if it could be passable. I don't use much usually, but, NONE would be interesting. A "Could it be done?" type of thing. | |
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