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Old 26th November 2008   #1
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Best 500 Series Lunchbox/Rack

Well, after searching through the forum and not finding the thread I was looking for, I decieded to start one. I think it's a pretty important subject seeing on how popular the 500 series has become. It seems people spend a good amount of time thinking about what they will put into their lunchbox, but spend little time thinking about which enclosure will work best for them. What makes one 500 series enclosure more desirable than another? Price, available space for modules, available power (?) and proximety of the power supply to the rack/box. I didn't know this when I purchased my lunchbox . Now I have to sell it and buy another (power issues). Which one of the 500 enclosures will work for most/all modules? I've been eye-balling Brent Averill. Looks like a good choice. JLM makes a cool looking unit as well. Anyone with experience?
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Don't quote me, but keep in mind that other 3rd party 500 racks might not be VPR approved by API so if something goes wrong you are held accountable.
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Brent Averill gets lots of love here - well constructed and powered. thumbsup

i went the API 500LB route - but largely due to portability and price incentive when buying several modules up front.

curious - what issue's (and or what modules) did you have w/ API Lunchbox?
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keep in mind that other 3rd party 500 racks might not be VPR approved by API
I'm not too worried about this. It seems that some are making products over and above the approval standard (Brent Averill, Buzz?).
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curious - what issue's (and or what modules) did you have w/ API Lunchbox?
I'm trying out a comp that used to be a DIY project. I didn't build it. They did, and they also tested it. It sounds Frickin Great! But, my Lunchbox couldn't handle full gain! The volume cut at about 65% of max. I even had Roger send me out another unit (thanks), thinking that the unit I was using was faulty. It wasn't. The problem lies within the power supplied to the enclosure. This was an enclosure that was built to VPR standards. Why should we hang on to a standard if it inhibits progress? What does this standard mean? Really?
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I think Brent Averill is the best quality out there, pricey but great.
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available power (?) and proximety of the power supply to the rack/box. I didn't know this when I purchased my lunchbox . Now I have to sell it and buy another (power issues). Which one of the 500 enclosures will work for most/all modules?
Thats why you should do your homework before buying
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Thats why you should do your homework before buying
Dude, you totally hurt my feelings . Actually, the reason I started this thread is so others can avoid the mistake I've made. First it starts with a bum lunchhbox, then your girl leaves you for some other dude with a working setup. Damn. If this thread helps just one person, then...
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Thats why you should do your homework before buying
That's cool, but why did you avoid my question? What is a standard if it is lower then the potential? Shouldn't we as gearslutz demand the best? dfegad
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I have both the API & BAE. both are worthy of purchase. but, the BAE, DOES have a beefier power supply AND an 11th slot! you definitely won't go wrong with either.

You won't regret spending the extra money on the BAE 11 slot. and, you won't be disappointed spending less on the API... there both winners!!! -klauth.
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it was my impression that only a small handful of developers are pushing the historic PS specs of the 500 series with their modules... Buzz comes to mind - though other companies are quickly adopting/expanding the format and working through the R&D to make their modules work within specs.... but that being said - BAE does tout a beefier PSU for their 500 series racks.

personally - i have an API 500LB w/ (4) 512c and (2) Avedis MA5 - no troubles so far.
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the OSA rack also has an 11th slot and I believe a higher power supply, does anyone have any info on these? I searched and even asked once and didn't get any answers.
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the OSA rack also has an 11th slot and I believe a higher power supply, does anyone have any info on these? I searched and even asked once and didn't get any answers.
someone posted a pic of the wiring inside of their OSA powersupply. after seeing that picture I decided not to invest at all with that company. It was bad, like seriously bad. looked like a C+ project from a beginners electronics course.
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someone posted a pic of the wiring inside of their OSA powersupply. after seeing that picture I decided not to invest at all with that company. It was bad, like seriously bad. looked like a C+ project from a beginners electronics course.
yep, avoid the OSA.
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Dude, you totally hurt my feelings . Actually, the reason I started this thread is so others can avoid the mistake I've made. First it starts with a bum lunchhbox, then your girl leaves you for some other dude with a working setup. Damn. If this thread helps just one person, then...
Sorry, and sorry about your girl..... I do know that you can only use 2 Elixir's in a 6 space API lunchbox, anymore it will not work correct, you can use the other 4 slots for less powered pres like API, A Designs etc.
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someone posted a pic of the wiring inside of their OSA powersupply. after seeing that picture I decided not to invest at all with that company. It was bad, like seriously bad. looked like a C+ project from a beginners electronics course.
This is important to anyone getting into the 500 series. Are we allowed to have opinions here, or does this go against the rules?

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someone posted a pic of the wiring inside of their OSA powersupply. after seeing that picture I decided not to invest at all with that company. It was bad, like seriously bad. looked like a C+ project from a beginners electronics course.
Yep... That someone with the OSA pics was me. Care to elaborate on what was wrong with the wiring? Im no expert on that - but it looked pretty good to me. Ive had the OSA for quite a while and I honestly can't knock it. Powered my P1's, MA5's, Actions and MP1A's perfectly.

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yep, avoid the OSA.
Have you used OSA/had bad experience with it or is it just what ur reading around the traps???
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Purple 10 will hopefully have its problems sorted out soon. I sure hope so anyway.
It's be Purple or BAE for me next year.
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Chandler have this to say about their Germanium 500 pre in a lunchbox -

"It is compatible with third party racks, but Chandler ****DOES NOT RECOMMEND USE WITH API 500B6 LUNCHBOX**** for lowest noise floor and best performance, use Chandler PSU-500 (5 pin version for API 500V rack or 4 pin version for Averil 11 slot rack)"

something to think about i guess.
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Didn't API recently boost the available power in the Lunchbox? How does it compare to the BAE and Purple now, and is there any easy way to tell the old ones apart from the new ones?
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i've had the OSA 11space for 4yrs now, never a problem.
i been running 550's, 525's, OSA big daddy's, 512's,
560's and level-ors.
not even a peep.
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None is "best".... Any of the following should work perfectly fine:

Any API rack currently manufactured.

Any Brent Averill rack currently manufactured.

The Avedis R52.

These have all been tested thoroughly and should meet the current demands of pretty much any combination of modules.
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Well it seems that the BAE rack (which I have and kicks mucho culo) has few if any people at all saying anything bad about it. I mean that power supply is a monster for milliamps, and smooth voltage, how can purple get near that by squeezing a power supply of BAE quality into a single unit slot? When will API start making 11 slotters? they should ALL be 11 slotters, that way
1)you dont have the power supply in the frame potentially disturbing worthwhile modules like the Chandler germanium, or endagering the possibilty of eddy current hum.
2)you get to make a bigger and better power supply
3)you get an extra slot....I mean how big do our brains need to be to work basic stuff like this out?
4)Get to screw it into yor 19" rack unlike those hefty lunchboxes, I mean these 11 slot frames are just as portable as the luchboxes bar that handle sticking out.....Sorry Dudes, its the BAE!
Also eems like the OSA cannot be bought separately anymore, I guess like you have to, uh....like BUY one of their modules if you want one of their racks? Sod that, leave that one for idiots.
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why doesn't anybody have a single slot chassis for the home projects? AND WHY ARE THEY SOOOO EXPENSIVE!!!! (the holder things i mean)
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bump to an old thread

who makes the best 10 or 11 slot rack?



someone told me a while back that they thought a Brent Averill box was poorly wired...

anyone looked inside the BAE 11 space?

and... not planning on putting preamps in it... could I skip the 'phantom' option, if i decided to get the BAE?

- could it be added later? (phantom)

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Another bump. So, how's that Sweet Ten vs the BAE??
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I can tell you who makes the best 16 slot... but it's not a rack.
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