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I need to know some information regarding a setup i am planing to do with my Protools HD rig .

As we all know, you can use several converters directly with HD cards without needing a Digidesign hardware .

I am planing to buy a Lavry Blue DA and Burl Bomber converter .

I would like to know if there is a way to use them on PT HD without using the following things ;

Apogee converters with x-hd card installed .
Lynx converters with hd card installed .
No Digidesign hardware .


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To be honest, you're being a bit lazy here.

Go to the Lavry site. go to the Burl site. Do they list an HD-compatible card?

If not, then no you can't. I don't think they do...the only companies I'm aware of that interface directly are Lynx, Apogee, and Prism.

You can use a 192 digital to provide AES i/o (maybe there's a 96 digital as well? again, you can look that up yourself). So no Digi conversion, but you will need the box.

If you're planning to drop this sort of cash on something, you should really not trust the opinions of a bunch of numptys on the net and get some cold hard facts.
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To be honest, you're being a bit lazy here.

Go to the Lavry site. go to the Burl site. Do they list an HD-compatible card?

If not, then no you can't. I don't think they do...the only companies I'm aware of that interface directly are Lynx, Apogee, and Prism.

You can use a 192 digital to provide AES i/o (maybe there's a 96 digital as well? again, you can look that up yourself). So no Digi conversion, but you will need the box.

If you're planning to drop this sort of cash on something, you should really not trust the opinions of a bunch of numptys on the net and get some cold hard facts.

No i believe me i am not lazy . I already know that Burl and Lavry not making direct connectivity cards .

I am just asking possible methods .

For example always i wonder what is this device ;

XLogic Delta-Link MADI HD

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With XLogic Delta Link MADI HD, Multichannel Audio Digital Interface audio equipment like routers, digital mixing consoles and converters can now be directly interfaced with Pro Tools HD®, providing simplified interconnectivity and significant cost reductions, eliminating the need for complicated format conversion workarounds.



Can it maybe provide something like i told ?
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Ok then,

If they don't make an HD card, there's no way of doing it directly.

the product you list would do the same job as a digital 192 IF your converters had MADI i/o (madi is a high capacity digital audio connection). They don't...so you'd need the Alpha link as well (MADI to AES) which is obviously a ridiculous expense.

Digidesign | Products | Products | 192 Digital I/O is the digital 192 - which would give you 16AES I/o, enough to run your converters with room for expansion.

The other options as you know are to buy something like a Lynx which can run the 16AES i/o as well as it's built in AD/DA. Might cost a bit more, but probably better in the long run - I don't know how you're planning to work, but if you ever think about adding additional hardware inserts etc, it could be very handy (even if you're not thrilled at the prospect of Lynx conversion).

Unless there's another box that converts AES with an HD card, them's your options.
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thank u for your assistance.
I really appreciate.

These options I already knew. I was asking some kinda fantasy options which maybe there is I still don't know

I just don't want to spend too much money for interconnection.
Also I don't want lynx as well because imo thy are super overrated cheap sounding convertors.

I guess digital I/o is perfect solution
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digi do make digital only interfaces too

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I believe that the JCF converters can interface with Pro Tools and they are sort of similar in idea to the Burls, but you may have to research that.

JCF:Home or check out Mercenary audio
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digi do make digital only interfaces too

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yeah...that'll be the digital 192 I mentioned in my first post someone prod narco in the back there!
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as i told you on your other thread on the same mater - if it doesn't have a HD interface like the ones you've mentioned, it can't be done. There isn't a workaround. Your best and cheapest option is the Aurora16 - it has all the AES you need. There is no more cost effective solution.
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I just don't want to spend too much money for interconnection.
Also I don't want lynx as well because imo thy are super overrated cheap sounding convertors.
Although Lynx+HD card may well be cheaper than 192digital. Plus you get 16 "utility" i/o for the odd session where you might need it.
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yeah...that'll be the digital 192 I mentioned in my first post someone prod narco in the back there!
doh!

btw. did you know you can use the aurora?

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thank u for your assistance.
I really appreciate.

These options I already knew. I was asking some kinda fantasy options which maybe there is I still don't know

I just don't want to spend too much money for interconnection.
Also I don't want lynx as well because imo thy are super overrated cheap sounding convertors.

I guess digital I/o is perfect solution
1. if they're super overrated cheap converters - then just use the AES. It's still the cheapest way for you.
2. I've got a block of Prism ADA here as well as Lynx Aurora 16 and various other bits n bobs in the three rooms. Cheap sounding they ain't. They do the job very well and are very much worth the dosh. I wouldn't want to pay £4k for them, but at the price they cannot be beaten.

Put it another way - have you used them?
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Thanks for all messages .

I will see what i will gonna do . As i said before , i know all the options written here .
Even prices of them each by each .

I was just asking if there is another option which i might miss .

to narcoman ;

yes i had Aurora and sold it in 2 weeks . The price of this converter making people so into to buy it .
But how it sounds is very cheap as well to my ears . I can say uncontrolled sound .

In this case Digi 192 I/O far superior than aurora .
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You can also add the Digital Audio Denmark HD I/O


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But than how can i connect Lavry and Burl to it with AES/EBU ?
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dude use the search function

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about coverters and safe your time.

digital denmark need no convertion from a burl or lavry

this are asskicking good converters.









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But than how can i connect Lavry and Burl to it with AES/EBU ?
You're being a little awkward for the sake of it.

The cheapest way for you to get 16 AES/EBU is the Aurora 16. Don't use the converter if you don't like it (your loss) - use it as the AES interface. OR use the 192 digital only version. But it costs more. That's it. No more options.

And you bought something and sold it in two weeks? hmmmmmmm.
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Thanks for all messages .

I will see what i will gonna do . As i said before , i know all the options written here .
Even prices of them each by each .

I was just asking if there is another option which i might miss .

to narcoman ;

yes i had Aurora and sold it in 2 weeks . The price of this converter making people so into to buy it .
But how it sounds is very cheap as well to my ears . I can say uncontrolled sound .

In this case Digi 192 I/O far superior than aurora .
Sorry man - you can have you're opinion.... but my experience says you're very wrong. No problem - you carry on ..... I bought it because it was pretty good. Nice extra 16 outs sat with my Prism ADA.
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I believe that the JCF converters can interface with Pro Tools and they are sort of similar in idea to the Burls, but you may have to research that.

JCF:Home or check out Mercenary audio
I was not aware Josh is making converters that have direct Digi HD compatibility. In fact, I'm sure he isn't.

Depending on which JCF box we are talking about here, your options are AES I/O, mostly. The 2-Channel "Latte" Mastering tool, tracking/mixing extraordinaire, does feature Optical I/O, as well as AES I/O on XLR, so if your Digi 192 box, or Apogee AD/DA16x/Rosetta, Lynx Aurora, or Prism ADA8XR unit is equipped with the HD card, and can be switched into AES mode [or adds AES channels to the existing AD/DA], you can add these units onto the system with little effort. Even simpler, if you have a Mac Pro, and use Logic, you can use the built in drives and move on with your life. The Latte was designed with mastering applications in mind, but I can attest to the fact that it is absolutely unparalleled for tracking [as you are using the AMPEX 440 Amplifier block when you switch the DA to the mic amps!!!!]. As well, when mastering the 2-buss, the Latte instantly rids you of any cold/sterile/lifeless feeling to/from the digital recorder!!! Its response is extended, and extremely accurate, yet musical and forgiving at the same time.
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