Digi guitar amp plug in "Eleven", how is it users?

[Tony Shepperd]

Eleven is an amazing sounding plugin.
I have used it a number of times when guitarist can't seem to understand what helps the song best.
Many times I've had to reprint guitars with Eleven.

p.s., I've never understood how someone "selling out" affects their ability to play guitar.
They can either play well or they can't. Their stuff sounds great or it doesn't.

[BigEvil]

It's amazing. Leaps and bounds the best sounding of the guitar plug-in's available. Also it's integration is seemless, footprint seems fairly small and the presets are pretty good. Throw tape head or real tape saturation on it and it help's de plug-in it. Also I've found bussing it out through a 1176AE or MC77(or a good compressor with some spit on it) can help warm up the sound and make it sound less cloudy. Honestly, I used it all over the last 3 record's I did and I couldn't tell you the difference. Once mixed all the shit gets EQ's and tweaked so much that I don't know that it matters anymore. To be honest, it saves time, sounds great, and is easy and fun to use, buy it.

[by-tor]

I use it all the time. For vocal and drum FX or guitars. It sits in mixes next to buddahs and engls. No problem. The other guitar amp sim I have is the mcdsp one. Eleven is a million times better than that one. Pretty amazing. A light version of eleven is coming with pro-tools 8.

[AntillesSound]

I think its the best amp sim out there. Even above most Line6 hardware stuff. It takes a little tweaking, but it has some AWESOME presets to get you started. Its most useful to me on big rock choruses on the bass, for making poorly recorded parts a little livelier and on vox every once and a while too. I also find it great for scratch guitar tracks for those times when the guitarist shows up for drum tracking and either doesnt have an amp with him or just wants hang out in the control room and do his parts.

[CaliTone]

When I first used it, I wasn't too thrilled with it. Then a few months ago, I rented it because I needed to "reamp" a few guitar parts because the original guitar tone wasn't cutting it. I gotta tell you, it blew me a way when I heard it in a context of a mix. I love Digidesign's Eleven now. I agree that it's one of the best Amp sims out there. Peavey's Revalver is still my favorite but I only use that in Logic as it's not RTAS compatible. So for a PT rig, Eleven is the best Amp sim in my opinion so far.

It's a very basic and simple plugin which is always nice too. No pedals, or rackmount shit anywhere to be seen. Just an amp, a cab, and a mic. Lovely!

[phoenixdriveaudi]

I generally prefer using the right amp & getting the tone from the start. However, I have used eleven several times when the tone just wasn't cutting it. Most of the time I will use a radial guitar signal splitter. Send one signal direct in for re-amping(moduling) just incase I need it later & one to the actual amp.

Always best to have the back up plan.

Eleven is by far my favorite. Next up would be Guitar Rig 3 from native instruments.

[AntillesSound]

Originally Posted by phoenixdriveaudi

I generally prefer using the right amp & getting the tone from the start.

no brainer

[Mike Brown]

It ROCKS.

I love to use my Radial JM-7 to mix a bunch of amps together (actual amps and mics) then if I need something more or something special I can always send the DI to 11 and add more layering if need be.

I can get some deep rich tones with the thing.

Check it out!

[phoenixdriveaudi]

The Radial JM-7 is the same one I use. It's a pretty awesome piece...

[Inca]

p.s., I've never understood how someone "selling out" affects their ability to play guitar.
They can either play well or they can't. Their stuff sounds great or it doesn't.

Tony, thanks for the information. I think the word "sellout" gets thrown around loosely. I just meant that he is being paid to pimp the product. He is still an amazing guitar player and will always be one of my biggest influences. Hey, that is what advertising is.

I'm just so skeptical when it comes to these things. It doesn't really matter though, because I'm getting it with the new tool-kit that is coming with my new 003 rack on Wednesday. I'm very pleased that it sounds as good as it does. It is especially pleasing coming from pros like you guys.

I'm all for tools that help us in the studio. I really liked the story behind the making of Eleven. You guys got me jacked to check it out now. haha. Be good. I cannot wait to sit in front of my GR pre and play Eleven through my A7's. Should be a blissful experience.

[Tony Shepperd]

And while I get the sentiment of what you're saying, I still say this:
I don't know of anyone who puts there name (credibility/integrity) on a product, that the product doesn't live up to what they said it would do.

There is an old saying...
Your credibility is not a boomerang.
When you throw it away, it doesn't come back.

[Inca]

Tony, very true regarding your reputation. Being a teacher of first graders, you reputation amongst parents is key to having a successful year.

I'm actually looking forward to using Eleven all over the kids record I'm doing. ha. Sometimes it really sucks going into my crawl space at midnight to move mics around in front of my guitar cabs. It's nice having everything in the crawl space for times when I want to really crank the amps up. ha.

I'm anxiously awaiting PT and Eleven. I also got a brand new Mid2007 Black macbook for free, so this will be my first venture into PT in Mac land. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's as stable as everyone says. We shall see.

[redrue]

Eleven is inspiring. I don't now, nor have I ever had access to
all the gear it would take for me to get near the sounds I get with
this. So it keeps me plugged in for hours at a time, inspired, writing,
composing...

Great sound, great tool... and I bought mine (TDM version) on
ebay and got a pretty rockin' deal on it.

[shaneoconnor]

so does this thing eat ram for breakfast?

my new mix room will be totally ITB.

i am probably going to need some guitar solutions for this. i was thinking about building some GIANT amp iso booth thing (which would probably sound pretty... small) but eleven would also be an awesome option.

[Tony Shepperd]

Originally Posted by shaneoconnor

so does this thing eat ram for breakfast?

For a good portion of the new plugins, you will need about 4 GB of RAM in your computer to really get good performance.
Eleven is no exception, it is a RAM intensive plugin.

[marchhare]

Eleven is amazing. I'm not crazy about the presets, but once you start tweeking
it, you can get really great sounds out of it. It sounds even better when combined
with Cranesong Phoenix. It's also really responsive to attack and volume changes
on the guitar, nothing like the POD. Very inspiring.

[Denny McNerney]

Originally Posted by AntillesSound

I think its the best amp sim out there.

i agree.

[dylansmale]

I'm pretty sure most software that emulates guitar amps does a much better job than the PODxt. The POD is horrible. I heard sound clips from Eleven and GTR that sounded more than twice as good as what I can get with my POD, that has to account for something.

[yeloocproducer]

Best I've tried. I don't use it for guitars, but I'm using it on every keyboard track on an album I'm producing right now... for a fairly big independent act. The 59 tweed amp seems to be really good for this if you tweak it a bit. Even running a separate instance of it for the delay track... sounds really good.

[Tunes 666]

I have a number of decent amp sim plug-ins and they all sounds very good but its when you mix them in with other organic instruments that I find it sounds very plastic... then again you can sometimes mic an amp up and not get much better with out spending loads of time on it..

and the hardest thing for me is to make it sounded rounded and warm....

Shame this one is only for Protools... I hope UAD will come out with something good soon.

[Yetti]

I have always been in the camp of "get a great sound...and mic it".
But I gotta say that the Eleven plug in is pretty dam good.
I had a mix session where the guitarist played a few rythym tracks with an old 12 string Rickenbacher electric, and we did get a good sound going direct. (kinda 70's am radio sounding style)
I threw up the Eleven plug-in, and the various mic, amp, cab option simulatulations are not only very good, but I like the ease of mixdown context final decisions.
I could have reamped it, I have the x-amp box and a nice Marshall JMC800 but it sounded good enough thru the plugin to where I don't think I compromised for the ease of use.
And, it keeps the workflow moving and creative.
Like it.