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Old 18th October 2008   #1
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how would I make an impulse response to make one stereo sound like another?

so it occured to me that the easiest place for me to judge a mix is in my car stereo since ive been listening to it for a good 5 years. whenever I burn my stuff on a cd to check on my car system its very obvious to me where the flaws are and helps me judge the highs and low mids well
so yesterday I made a sine wave sweep in voxengo deconvolver and recorded the output with a mic in omni position inside my car where my head is, and i did the same infront of my monitors, but from here im not sure what to do... How should I process these files I have in order to create an impulse response that essentially turns the recording of the sine sweep infront of my monitors into the recording of the sine sweep in my car? would i just select the recording infront of the monitors as my source file in deconvolver instead of the sine sweep wav?

my plan is that hopefully the eq difference will be captured between these two files and I will be able to throw a plugin on my master bus when mixing to get a quick different perspective on the mix
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IMO, the main reason why car stereos tend to sound better to many people is simply because most people (including studio owners who should know better) have their speakers too far apart. In a car, it's impossible to have the speakers too far apart. So before you try to make two wrongs into a right, try moving your speakers first. There is a definate sweet spot: too close and it may as well be mono, too far apart and the mix becomes a hole-in-the-middle.

It also possible that your speakers are too far away (which is also impossible in a car). Near field speakers are designed to sound good in the near field. Too far away, and you are hearing more room sound and this will color what you hear, especially if you haven't treated your room correctly.

An impulse response can give you an eq 'fix' that may be completely inappropriate and just make the sound worse. It will also add time-based 'ringing' (the reverb tail of your car). Despite the fact that we enjoy music in a car, the acoustics are really fairly crap. Apply this impulse response is not going to solve a bad acoustic problem in your studio - so there is no substitute for treating your room and placeing the speakers (and your ears) in the optimum position.

EQ should not be necessary - but if you want to go there, at least use a decent eq and not an impulse response of a very small space with it's own set of problems ...

Also factor in that car speakers, like hifi speakers, are designed to flatter, not reveal. A car is a noisy environment, and sometimes we find noise is comforting, and masks a lot of problems.

If you want a murky, noisy but fun sounding listening experience as an alternative to uber revealing studio monitors - have you considered some of those really cheap Logitech computer speakers with a sub? They are ridiculously cheap, and fairly hyped and noisy, but they are real-world toys that many people use, and your music has to sound good on these things too ...
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BTW - the Voxengo convolver will process your file for you, just read the manal.
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well im not trying to emulate the "space" of the car really, just the eq difference between my listening position at home and my listening position in the car

the proper eq filter would be able to take my recording of the sine sweep in front of my monitors and essentially make it sound exactly like the recording of the sine sweep in my car
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