Sound for Iron and Wine's "Such Great Heights"?
Old 17th May 2005
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Sound for Iron and Wine's "Such Great Heights"?

Any ideas how it was done?

I am mixing a track and was asked to provide this signature for the whole mix.
Old 17th May 2005
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It sounds more bedroom demo than some of the newer stuff I've heard by them..
Sounds like stuff i used to do on a little revox 1/4 inch 4 track..
wish I still had it..
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Old 17th May 2005
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It sounds more bedroom demo than some of the newer stuff I've heard by them..
Sounds like stuff i used to do on a little revox 1/4 inch 4 track..
wish I still had it..
vibey little box
There is this whole new movement for bedroom sounding music.

Its weird being asked to "dumb" a mix down, but basically this what i am being asked to do.

It doesn't sound like a cassette recording though(too clean).

The vocals do have that "fluttery"vibe associated with plug in noise reduction though.
Old 17th May 2005
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hey thrill

e-cue might be worth
he put me onto I&W a while back but I haven't yet check it out properly..
(where's the icon for a slapped wrist?)
Old 17th May 2005
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Hey, that's a weird rendition of a Postal Service song.
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Old 17th May 2005
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Found it. It's 4-track cassette at home.

Good luck with that, Thrill.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22sa...en-US:official

Thanks Large.

Wow...that came out like a line form the Garden State movie.

Now off to try to find a 4 track cassette recorder...do these things still exist?
Old 18th May 2005
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Little portastudios[old ones] are still around for like 50-100 bucks..
Hell,I just realized I have one in the closet unused,new in the box that I bought for my girlfriend a year ago..[she's learning on a little oo2 system i got for remote stuff]
Maybe I'll make it my new summing mixer$$$
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Little portastudios[old ones] are still around for like 50-100 bucks..
Hell,I just realized I have one in the closet unused,new in the box that I bought for my girlfriend a year ago..[she's learning on a little oo2 system i got for remote stuff]
Maybe I'll make it my new summing mixer$$$

What i am trying to figure out now should i run the tracks with DBX encoding or not?

(I can't believe i just typed this).

Again the idea is to get to the sound as close as possible.

My problem is the one cassette deck i have(which i never use) is the super Tascam and i can't make it sound"bedroom like".

Its too clean and reproduces the audio too well.

I've asked everyone i know today and no one has a 4 track.

Someone did hook me up with the Tascam 8 track cassette machine so we will see.
Old 18th May 2005
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Some one wants to sound like that?? Jesus I always thought that track stuck out like a sore thumb on the Garden State soundtrack...different strokes I guess.
Old 18th May 2005
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No, don't run the DBX.

That guy recently made a new record at a real studio much higher fidelity and actually added hiss to his voice.
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Some one wants to sound like that?? Jesus I always thought that track stuck out like a sore thumb on the Garden State soundtrack...different strokes I guess.

Its created a whole movement of artists that make records that sound like they were done in their bedrooms(no offense to people with studios at home).

The other requests i get a lot are bands that want their mixes to sound like Snow Patrol.
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I guess the key to that gig is neglecting to mention they could have easily done that at home with a couple hundred bucks
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No, don't run the DBX.

That guy recently made a new record at a real studio much higher fidelity and actually added hiss to his voice.
Yeah i heard it today actually.

It didn't sound as intimate though.

I guess the first record was a "happy accident".

The reason i thought about encoding it with DBX is that in the old days the cheap DBX encoding built into 4 tracks and 8 tracks tended to darken things up.

So my thought was if i encode it with DBX and play it back without it, i can run the track through a noise reduction plug in and get that warble that's you here on Sam Beam's voice on the song.

Also the guitar sounds really dry and compressed(almost like plastic) and i can simulate this also.

Man who would have ever thunk it that i would be going this out of my way to make a mix sound like crap.
Old 18th May 2005
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warm, intimate, delicate, characterful...

I think that first album has a great sound !!

...and many of my favorite albums/artists have a similar lo-fi sound.

I alwalys thought that 80% of that sound was in the super-quiet delivery - we want to hear what the vocalist had for lunch... (and more than that I think that close mic'd, warm whispering hits all sorts of primal buttons that relate to the sort of voices you hear when you are a baby)...

paging Dr Freud....
Old 18th May 2005
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Thrill,

I'd try running various elements of the mix (or possibly the whole mix) out of a speaker and micing that speaker with various dynamic mics. Maybe run that signal to the 4 track.
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