Peluso mics

[DivineMusic]

i've been looking at getting one of these mics..
i've had my eyes on the 22 251 or the 22 47.
i've always heard great things about the u47 but personally never used one.. i have used a few 251's before though.

i wanna get this mic mainly for R&B style vocals. which will give me the best vocal sound IYO?

[kittonian]

For vocals I would recommend the 22 251. The 22 47 is a great mic but has a big fat character to it that works with "Aretha" type singers. I love the 22 47 on Guitar/Bass cabs, bodies of acoustic guitars, kick drum, and singers where I need a huge fat vocal sound with a lot of bottom end. That being said, the 22 251 provides me a huge open airy vocal sound that works on 95% of the singers I stick in front of it.

[DivineMusic]

thanks for the reply. i mentioned these mics to some other ppl and they knew nothing about them let alown had the nerve to say they're cheap knock offs...
glad to hear from someone that actually used the mics.
i've been leaning toward the 251 b/c i've used a real $4400 251 and know how it sounds.. might i ask what pre/s do you use with the 251 for vocals...

[kittonian]

Sure. My vocal chain for most singers is the 22 251 to a DBX 786. Sometimes I'll stick a compressor after the 786 but usually I don't compress until the mix. By the way, I will tell you that we are a dealer for Peluso (but I wouldn't have picked up the line unless I could feel confident recommending it) and on our website you can find an example of something we recorded here to show off all 3 Peluso mics. The vocalist is singing through the 22 251 to the 786 so you'll be able to hear exactly how that sounds.

Here's a direct link: http://www.audiolot.com/proaudio/sales/peluso

[Jonathan Starr]

I got a 2247 LE long body with the black USA metal tube this week.

Up till now, my premium vocal mics were a Rode NTK, TLM 103 and AT 4050.

I had a friend coming over to cut a demo for a Ray Charles gig with a major symphony orchestra. He has a big, soulful voice (couple of gold records from the 70s) and I let the new 2247 LE warm up for a while along with my Sebatron Pre and Demter Compressor.

The tone was perfect for what we were trying to do. It was more detailed and bigger than anything I've heard from my existing mics, and it complemented his big voice very well with no eq and just a touch of concert hall type reverb.

I noticed that it took about 2 hours to fully warm up, and I kept having to lower the gain a tad as it kept opening up. This may have been the mic breaking in. Supposedly it was a dealer demo, but it looks untouched.

I love the thing. How I would feel if I had a bin of real 47s and 251s sitting around, I don't know. I just know that this is way beyond what I've been using to date for that voice.

Aloha,

Jonathan Starr
Big Gorilla Sound
Wailuku

[Telecastr]

Originally Posted by DivineMusic

thanks for the reply. i mentioned these mics to some other ppl and they knew nothing about them let alown had the nerve to say they're cheap knock offs...
glad to hear from someone that actually used the mics.
i've been leaning toward the 251 b/c i've used a real $4400 251 and know how it sounds.. might i ask what pre/s do you use with the 251 for vocals...

well...they are cheap knock offs, that's why you're interested in them right? you want a cheaper version of something that sounds like a real 251. i had both the 22 47 and the 22 251 for a couple months a while back. both are good mics. do they sound like the original? i have no clue. i've not used the real thing. people who have used both the peluso and the real thing say that the pelusos don't sound the same. they are more of a "along the same type of sound" thing. i only say that b/c you said you've used a real 251. the peluso won't sound exactly the same. nonetheless, you will find that both peluso mics are very usable and are still good mics. just don't expect them to be the exact same thing as the original. if you PM me your email address, i'll send you a song that used the peluso 251 on female vocals. also, both pelusos sounded good on ac gtr and piano too.

[henryrobinett]

I absolutely love those Mics. I bought both the 22 251 and the 22 47. I think Kittonian is basically right. I tend to favor the 22 47 because it's just so dang warm. It's my favorite mic.

[jeangeniemusic]

Another happy customer;

I bought the 2247 LE a month ago after having both the LE and the 2247 short body to evaluate for a week. the 2247 has a very pleasing sound with a slight bump in the mids ( compared to the LE) that makes it work a tad better on accoustic guitars. The LE (Limited edition long body) has a smoother sound more suited for vocals (it's also great on accoustic and electric guitars).

Both have big image and warmth. both will give you very large sounding recordings while retaining detail and depth.

I also purchased their SD mic (cem...6) forgot the name. I first found it to distort mids slightly. the dealer recommended trying the different pads, the mic being being very sensitive. He was right my sources were too loud. I bought it!

The 2251 that I also tried for a week is less about bottom and more about mids and highs. I imagine it being a great match for rock cut through type of vocals. I might get this one later on too.

Great mics. Great value.

Jeangeniemusic

[Telecastr]

You know, now that I think about it, I didn't use the 251 on female vox it was the 47. I used the 251 on elec gtr.

[rlnyc]

Originally Posted by DivineMusic

i've been leaning toward the 251 b/c i've used a real $4400 251 and know how it sounds.. might i ask what pre/s do you use with the 251 for vocals...

Hate to burst the bubble but "a real $4400 251" is not real. no 251 can be had for that amount of money. Any "251" which costs $4400 IS a knockoff or a copy. might sound delightful. might sound FANTASTIC, but it ain't a "real 251". want a real 251? think $10,000 - $20,000.

best regards,
rlnyc

[Musiclab]

I have a 2247, I think its a great mic. John Peluso has been great with helping out with any problems I had.

[DivineMusic]

Originally Posted by rlnyc

Hate to burst the bubble but "a real $4400 251" is not real. no 251 can be had for that amount of money. Any "251" which costs $4400 IS a knockoff or a copy. might sound delightful. might sound FANTASTIC, but it ain't a "real 251". want a real 251? think $10,000 - $20,000.

best regards,
rlnyc

wow a lot more ppl than i thought have experience with these mics

well let me change that statement. it wasn't a telefunken 251 it was a Soundelux ELUX251. i've never heard the telefunken... but if i ever spend money like that on a mic the 1st mic is going to be a c800.. i love the way it sounds but $5000+ for a mic hurts right now.

Telecastr, i'll be sending you a pm

[Dot]

I agree that the 22 251 is a good choice for R&B vocals.

We've been testing and using all the mics Peluso makes: CECM6 pencils, 22 251, 2247 shortbody, 2247 LE [ Telefunken and American tube versions ] and a new P-248. Currently recording A/B sessions with a lot of other tube mics including Neumann, Gefell, RTT, R-F-T Telefunken, ADK, Pearlman, Røde, Studio Projects. The Peluso's have been stealing the show. Brauner, Soundelux, Wagner, Sony, Apex, MXL and others are arriving for more sessions.

There's a misunderstanding that the Peluso's are Chinese mics. They're not. These are American mics hand-made in the US. There's some Chinese electronics in them - but you can find Chinese electronics in many high-end mics on the market. The Peluso's use mylar from Germany, the diaphragms are sputtered in Minnesota. The Tamura transformer in the EF14 Telefunken-tube version is made in Japan. The Cinemag transformers are hand-made in California.

[Fletcher]

Originally Posted by Dot

Currently recording A/B sessions with a lot of other tube mics including Neumann, Gefell, RTT, R-F-T Telefunken, ADK, Pearlman, Røde, Studio Projects. The Peluso's have been stealing the show.

Also spelled: Soundpure just picked up the line.


Made in the USA... using the finest $85- capsules eBay can supply... ggrreeeeaaaaat...

It must be the imported mylar that makes them so expensive...


Tune in tomorrow to see if Kittonian and his DBX pre-amp will beat the Soundpure price on these wonderful microphones that can beat a Studio Projects mic before the second egg roll is consumed.... the drama envelops, the tension mounts

[DivineMusic]

hey dot, that bottle style mic.. is that the new oktava 5000?

[C/G]

Originally Posted by DivineMusic

hey dot, that bottle style mic.. is that the new oktava 5000?

I believe that is the RTT bottle mic. Not sure if RTT is part of Oktava or not.

[atticus]

Originally Posted by Colin Gaucher

I believe that is the RTT bottle mic. Not sure if RTT is part of Oktava or not.

If I am not mistaken that is an RTT MKL-101, which will go down in history as the densest micrphone ever built. I used to own one and it felt like the walls of the mic body were an inch think of solid steel. Sounded pretty good and beefy. Not a hi-fi mic at all but still very cool.

[DivineMusic]

Originally Posted by atticus

If I am not mistaken that is an RTT MKL-101, which will go down in history as the densest micrphone ever built. I used to own one and it felt like the walls of the mic body were an inch think of solid steel. Sounded pretty good and beefy. Not a hi-fi mic at all but still very cool.

naw its close but that must be the new oktava 5000, the 101 looks a lil different..

Originally Posted by Colin Gaucher

I believe that is the RTT bottle mic. Not sure if RTT is part of Oktava or not.

http://sound-room.com/customer/home.php?cat=2

[atticus]

Well the heads on those mics are swappable. it kinda looks like the same body as an MKl-101.

[GPl]

Originally Posted by Fletcher

Also spelled: Soundpure just picked up the line.


Made in the USA... using the finest $85- capsules eBay can supply... ggrreeeeaaaaat...

It must be the imported mylar that makes them so expensive...


Tune in tomorrow to see if Kittonian and his DBX pre-amp will beat the Soundpure price on these wonderful microphones that can beat a Studio Projects mic before the second egg roll is consumed.... the drama envelops, the tension mounts

Funny......I never got any eggrolls with mine

[DivineMusic]

Originally Posted by atticus

Well the heads on those mics are swappable. it kinda looks like the same body as an MKl-101.

if they're swappable they're probably the same mic then. the pic i posted is the mkl-101 from the rtt/oktava website.. from what i understand they're the same company

[Dot]

The Peluso's are only stealing the show in that they're a new kid on the block and doing much better than we expected. Many of tthe other mics in our TLS A/B sessions are also doing very well. I just mention Peluso's since this was a thread about Peluso mics. There's still not much info around on the web about them, but as more people are using them the word's getting out.

Even this thread is a lot different than the Peluso topics you would have seen a few months ago that were made up mostly of people who have no first-hand experience with Peluso mics. That's are starting to change, and the end-user feedback is excellent on these mics.

BTW, DivineMusic, yes that's an RTT.

[cominginsecond]

Originally Posted by Fletcher

Also spelled: Soundpure just picked up the line.


Made in the USA... using the finest $85- capsules eBay can supply... ggrreeeeaaaaat...

It must be the imported mylar that makes them so expensive...

Have you heard these mics? If not, why are you so secure in constantly dissing them? I know you had a problem with Peluso in the past. Is that the only reason?

[DanV]

because fletcher rules! duh.

[cominginsecond]

I'm interested in hearing something he's recorded. I have no idea if he rules. I know he's good at impugning other people's motives.

[BrianK]

>>>Made in the USA... using the finest $85- capsules eBay can supply... ggrreeeeaaaaat...

It must be the imported mylar that makes them so expensive...>>

Just like Telefunken USA, right ?

And if they sound good , who cares, when where, why or how?

[MadGuitrst]

Originally Posted by Fletcher

Also spelled: Soundpure just picked up the line.


Made in the USA... using the finest $85- capsules eBay can supply... ggrreeeeaaaaat...

It must be the imported mylar that makes them so expensive...


Tune in tomorrow to see if Kittonian and his DBX pre-amp will beat the Soundpure price on these wonderful microphones that can beat a Studio Projects mic before the second egg roll is consumed.... the drama envelops, the tension mounts

Oh come on Mr. Happy , you've surely had positive comments about a mic or two that Mercenary sells.
And you picked the lines you sell because.............?

I'm no Fletcher or other big time producer, engineer, or gear pimp, but I've used a mic or two in my time......okay, mostly Radio Shack knock- offs, but still.

All I can say is that I have, among other mics, a Soundelux U195. I thought doing a comarison between the the Peluso 22 247 and the U195 would be a decent comparison.

The U195 is a good all around mic for not too much money (a few hundred more than the 22 47) and recommended by many, some of whom own and/or sell some of the really expensive mics.

Simply put, the 22 47 smokes the U195 in every way.
I'll leave it at that.........oh, and I have an excellent confiditon U195 for sale if anyone is interested.

BTW, the 22 251 is excellent too.

Pass me another egg roll please...........and pick up a GT Vipre or a capsule for a Manley reference mic for me if you see them while you're in China getting my egg roll!

[dudleys100]

In what ways would you say the peluso beats the 195?

[MadGuitrst]

More detail, more depth, more open, more flexible......and the U195 is a good mic, solid mic, so.......

Wanna buy my U195?

[pan60]

so what do you want for the soundelux U195?
i have one but what the heck, i could use another for the right price.