Question about Stacked Vocals !!!

vudoo · 10th May 2005

I'm mixing a few tunes in the bag of Youssou Ndour. The melody is made up of 4 vocal tracks. It is a 3 part harmony with usually the lower part doubled making up the 4 parts.
Now, any suggestion in lowering the natural chorus effect of the stacked vocals ?? Thanks

pan · 10th May 2005

Try Autotune stike

...isn't that chorus effect a desired one?

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dharma one · 10th May 2005

pan the lower harmonies wide. or if you dont want any chorusing, dont use the second lower harmony at all, just one take of lead and each of the 2 harmonies.

i would have doubled/quadrapled all of them though...

wilcofan · 11th May 2005

If you are not liking the chorusing effect of the harmonies stacked against each other I don't know what to say. That's the effect of a chorus!

However, if you aren't liking the chorusing effect of a doubled part * itself *, try recording the double with an omni mic to give it a totally different space. And record the double in livelier part of the room.

vudoo · 11th May 2005

Well, maybe i'm not explaining myself properly. I guess i'll try to post an example....
I'm very aware that whenever you stack vocals and harmony, there will be a nautural chorus effects but i just find it sometimes way to thick, the chorus effect that is !!!
If you listen to stuff like Take 6. Man, there's is some major harmony and double/triple tracked vocal going on at the same time but it sounds very airy and in your face and you hardly hear that thick chorusy effect at all !!!

Mike Tholen · 11th May 2005

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Originally Posted by vudoo

If you listen to stuff like Take 6. Man, there's is some major harmony and double/triple tracked vocal going on at the same time but it sounds very airy and in your face and you hardly hear that thick chorusy effect at all !!!

It's commonly refered to as "Perfect Pitch".
It's true, and they did that WITHOUT ANY computers...go figgur.

dawkab · 11th May 2005

Have you tried high-passing the harmonies? Getting rid of most of the fundamental pitch energy might help.

Mike Tholen · 11th May 2005

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Originally Posted by dawkab

Have you tried high-passing the harmonies? Getting rid of most of the fundamental pitch energy might help.

Charlie-O · 12th May 2005

Vocalign plugin on pro tools may also work, if you dont have this plug you can always nudge the offending sections yourself, lign them up until the phasiing, chorus effect is to your satisfaction.

David R. · 12th May 2005

I agree with nudging the words so they line up (if they are a problem), but the chorus effect is usually a good thing, unless someone is out of tune. Pan it out and enjoy.

Vudoo, this singer you are working with in Canada wouldn't happen to be named Musa, would he? Just curious.

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vudoo Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 749 Thread Starter	Question about Stacked Vocals !!! I'm mixing a few tunes in the bag of Youssou Ndour. The melody is made up of 4 vocal tracks. It is a 3 part harmony with usually the lower part doubled making up the 4 parts. Now, any suggestion in lowering the natural chorus effect of the stacked vocals ?? Thanks

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Charlie-O Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2004 Location: California Posts: 882	Vocalign plugin on pro tools may also work, if you dont have this plug you can always nudge the offending sections yourself, lign them up until the phasiing, chorus effect is to your satisfaction. __________________ It is not what you have, but what you create with it....... www.myspace.com/charlieomusic Grassroots

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David R. Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: I left my heart, in... Posts: 1,881	I agree with nudging the words so they line up (if they are a problem), but the chorus effect is usually a good thing, unless someone is out of tune. Pan it out and enjoy. Vudoo, this singer you are working with in Canada wouldn't happen to be named Musa, would he? Just curious. __________________ -David R. "An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way." - C. Bukowski

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pan Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2002 Location: Hamburg Posts: 1,536	Try Autotune stike ...isn't that chorus effect a desired one? n

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dharma one Gear maniac Joined: Jan 2005 Location: London Wimbledon Posts: 174	pan the lower harmonies wide. or if you dont want any chorusing, dont use the second lower harmony at all, just one take of lead and each of the 2 harmonies. i would have doubled/quadrapled all of them though...

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wilcofan Gear addict Joined: Jun 2004 Location: Dieppe, Canada Posts: 426	If you are not liking the chorusing effect of the harmonies stacked against each other I don't know what to say. That's the effect of a chorus! However, if you aren't liking the chorusing effect of a doubled part * itself *, try recording the double with an omni mic to give it a totally different space. And record the double in livelier part of the room.

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dawkab Gear interested Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 14	Have you tried high-passing the harmonies? Getting rid of most of the fundamental pitch energy might help.