Looking for a mono EQ to warp / shape sounds. $2000 Budget new/used

rjx · 7th May 2005

I make synthesizer based music with lots of drum machines and samples.

My main concern is tracking, in mono.

Besides warping sounds, I would also like the EQ to be great at drums, making kicks & snares more pronounced and full sounding.

I would mainly use the EQ for drums as my top priority, followed by synthesizer sounds. I wouldn't use the EQ in a mix or mastering situation. I just want to create the sounds I am after and get them into the computer and thats pretty much it.

I would love to own a Massive Passive, but unless I find a used one for around $2500, its not going to happen. Everything I have found is about $3000+.

How would the Lil Freq be for my goals? It seems pretty versatile and would work well in other areas besides shaping.

I have been shopping for a Great River ME-1NV and found a guy selling a ME-1NV and EQ-1NV for $2000 shipped! I have heard great things about the EQ-1NV for drums, but IYO do you think it would be a good choice for what I am after?

Thanks!

max cooper · 7th May 2005

My fave drum EQ (that we mere mortals can afford) is the API 560.

edIT · 7th May 2005

second the API 560. I have 4 of them. but i don't know why guys like you and kataztraphy are so hell bent on recording everything in MONO. gotta have some love for stereo too.

Duffster · 7th May 2005

I would go for the Lil Freq. This think this is one of the best EQ´s for the price.

brownmouse · 7th May 2005

just to add another option..... the great river eq-1nv.
joshua

rjx · 7th May 2005

I like the ideas about the 560. Of the eq's in the 500 series, the 560 is the one I would want to try the most. I remember reading a lot of good stuff regarding drums with those eq's.

Ed, I wish you had offered me one of those 560's. Being familiar with you're music I am wondering how you use 4 at once?

Nathen, Fletcher, have you guys tried the Freq yet? Thoughts?

rjx · 7th May 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by brownmouse

just to add another option..... the great river eq-1nv.
joshua

I have a chance to get that and the ME-1NV together with the rack kit for $2000 shipped. The Me-1NV I really want, and I was thinking about getting the EQ-1NV. Decisions decisions.

edIT · 7th May 2005

I use 4 a once because I record everything stereo. Including drums. So I have a pair for my multiple layers of kicks and a pair for my multiple layers of snares & claps. Similar to the reson why I owned a 4 ch. transient designer. A pair for my kicks and a pair for my snares. I mean mono is cool. But sometimes Stereo is just way cooler. Don't believe the hype that all drum sounds have to be mono.

edIT · 7th May 2005

once again i haven't tried the above EQ's aside from the 560, but IMO, the API 560 is everything it is advertised to be and then some. And CHEAP (under $600 used)! Totally a killer EQ my favorite API module hands down, and I am a total lunchbox nut. PERFECT for any drum sounds, and all sorts of other things, bass, guitars, you name it. Super versatile, sometimes not the easiest to recall settings etc.....But a great tool. If you are looking for some severe mangling, maybe you should turn on that KSP8 you've got or look into getting something like a sherman filterbank.

**Tim Farrant** · 7th May 2005

If you really want to warp and shape sounds as you suggest, a proper parametric equaliser with sweep frequencies and Q controls might be a better choice than the 560, which is only a graphic EQ.

Tim

drmmrboy · 7th May 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjx

I have a chance to get that and the ME-1NV together with the rack kit for $2000 shipped. The Me-1NV I really want, and I was thinking about getting the EQ-1NV. Decisions decisions.

Can't help much with the EQ, as I'm looking myself, but...
If you decide not to go with that deal, can you pass it my way?

Andrew

rjx · 7th May 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by drmmrboy

Can't help much with the EQ, as I'm looking myself, but...
If you decide not to go with that deal, can you pass it my way?

Andrew

Sure thing! But I may just pull the trigger and do it. I said to the seller I would let him know sometime this evening since I didn't want to keep him waiting.

I am a lot closer to getting it than I was few hours ago since I found some mp3's of the eq and pre in action.

http://www.3daudioinc.com/cgi-bin/ul...&f=14&t=001128

The 3rd mp3 is very nice! Its the eq-2nv ---> output of mp-2nv

I will definitely hook you up with the link if I don't grab em. I will also post here to say if I did or didn't.

rjx · 7th May 2005

Ed, thanks for breakin it down for me.

I hear what you are saying about the filter. I always wanted the filter bank and mutator. I use a mod max filter by studio electronics that I love a lot. If I had known I was going to get laid off I would have had a filter bank a long time ago.

Tim
Thanks for the suggestion

drmmrboy · 7th May 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjx

I will definitely hook you up with the link if I don't grab em. I will also post here to say if I did or didn't.

brownmouse · 7th May 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjx

I have a chance to get that and the ME-1NV together with the rack kit for $2000 shipped. The Me-1NV I really want, and I was thinking about getting the EQ-1NV. Decisions decisions.

man, i really doubt you can go wrong with that combo. i have the great river mp-2nv and eq-2nv and i love 'em!
joshua

rjx · 7th May 2005

drmmrboy

I went for it. Sorry bro.
I don't know how frequent you come to this forum, but I will look for some deals for you and pm you any links that I find if you are interested.

rj

jbuntz · 8th May 2005

Don't forget the Dakings. The eq's on that are very good for sculpting drums and you get a good drum pre thrown in. 560's also do indeed rock.

Nutmeg II. · 8th May 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Farrant

If you really want to warp and shape sounds as you suggest, a proper parametric equaliser with sweep frequencies and Q controls might be a better choice than the 560, which is only a graphic EQ.

Tim

Got to love Tims nice and polite ways!

I would suggest a Buzz MPE1.1 with xformer output option! $1.4k list excl. xformer option.

The GR eq is defenetly a nice one too.

drmmrboy · 8th May 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjx

drmmrboy
I went for it. Sorry bro.
I don't know how frequent you come to this forum, but I will look for some deals for you and pm you any links that I find if you are interested.

It's hard to pass up that deal.
Your getting the ME-1NV you wanted, and while your at it, you can check out the EQ-1NV.

I'm here every day. If you happen to come across anything of interest, Please let me know. thumbsup
I am looking...

Andrew

STARSKI · 8th May 2005

once again i'm gonna reccomend the avedis e15s for drums and tracking you can get 2 of em for about 1900 but then you still need to buy the rack which will over budget you about 500 bucks or so but then you still have more space to add more eqs comps and pres. the avedis rock!!!!

RoundBadge · 9th May 2005

Lil Freq

rjx · 11th May 2005

Man, the more I think about the Daking, the more I want one. I had never heard of the MPE-1.1 before, but that looks really nice! Thanks!

7th May 2005	#1
rjx Gear addict Joined: Nov 2003 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 458 Thread Starter	Looking for a mono EQ to warp / shape sounds. $2000 Budget new/used I make synthesizer based music with lots of drum machines and samples. My main concern is tracking, in mono. Besides warping sounds, I would also like the EQ to be great at drums, making kicks & snares more pronounced and full sounding. I would mainly use the EQ for drums as my top priority, followed by synthesizer sounds. I wouldn't use the EQ in a mix or mastering situation. I just want to create the sounds I am after and get them into the computer and thats pretty much it. I would love to own a Massive Passive, but unless I find a used one for around $2500, its not going to happen. Everything I have found is about $3000+. How would the Lil Freq be for my goals? It seems pretty versatile and would work well in other areas besides shaping. I have been shopping for a Great River ME-1NV and found a guy selling a ME-1NV and EQ-1NV for $2000 shipped! I have heard great things about the EQ-1NV for drums, but IYO do you think it would be a good choice for what I am after? Thanks! __________________ The fact that a believer is happier than a sceptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.

7th May 2005	#3
edIT Gear addict Joined: Jun 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 393	second the API 560. I have 4 of them. but i don't know why guys like you and kataztraphy are so hell bent on recording everything in MONO. gotta have some love for stereo too. __________________ edIT (The Glitch Mob, Alpha Pup, Planet-Mu) http://www.facebook.com/edITmusic http://www.facebook.com/theglitchmobmusic

7th May 2005	#4
Duffster Gear addict Joined: Apr 2005 Location: São Paulo, Brasil Posts: 471	I would go for the Lil Freq. This think this is one of the best EQ´s for the price. __________________ Eagles may soar, but weasels don´t get stuck in jet engines. www.norcalstudios.com.br

7th May 2005	#10
Tim Farrant Moderator Joined: Jun 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,412	If you really want to warp and shape sounds as you suggest, a proper parametric equaliser with sweep frequencies and Q controls might be a better choice than the 560, which is only a graphic EQ. Tim __________________ "Come on, make my day" Dirty Harry (Clint Eastwood) Visit Buzz Audio

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7th May 2005	#2
max cooper Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2004 Location: tx Posts: 8,802	My fave drum EQ (that we mere mortals can afford) is the API 560.

7th May 2005	#5
brownmouse Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,399	just to add another option..... the great river eq-1nv. joshua

8th May 2005	#17
jbuntz Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,716	Don't forget the Dakings. The eq's on that are very good for sculpting drums and you get a good drum pre thrown in. 560's also do indeed rock.

8th May 2005	#20
STARSKI Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2004 Location: YAY AREA!! Posts: 699	once again i'm gonna reccomend the avedis e15s for drums and tracking you can get 2 of em for about 1900 but then you still need to buy the rack which will over budget you about 500 bucks or so but then you still have more space to add more eqs comps and pres. the avedis rock!!!!

9th May 2005	#21
RoundBadge Lives for gear Joined: May 2004 Location: Los Angeles ,Ca. Posts: 8,854	Lil Freq

11th May 2005	#22
rjx Gear addict Joined: Nov 2003 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 458 Thread Starter	Man, the more I think about the Daking, the more I want one. I had never heard of the MPE-1.1 before, but that looks really nice! Thanks!

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