Big Bottom References?

caseyLA · 3rd May 2005

What are some of your favorite songs/albums to use to reference the low end of your mixes? I'm trying to compile some reference material with big kick drums and fat bass lines (both acoustic and electronic). Low end that is mixed in just the right proportions, is tight, and big. Any suggestions?

thanks

alphajerk · 4th May 2005

anything by bill laswell.

Sounds Great · 4th May 2005

Check Sting's 'Brand New Day'. Available on both CD and SACD. Some huge bass on there. Room shaking bass.

**jayfrigo** · 4th May 2005

A few that pop into my mind at the moment are Soul Coughing's Super Bon Bon, Meshelle N'Degnecello's 2nd album (the one with the bluish cover - forget the name) and the two albums, but especially the first, from The Getaway People.

jebjerome · 4th May 2005

D'Angelo Voodoo.

Vari-Mu · 4th May 2005

Bob Power in general.

Cheers

Vari-Mu

tINY · 4th May 2005

Thomas Dolby - Aliens ate my Buick

NIN - Pretty Hate Machine

Crash Test Dummies

-tINY

Bang · 4th May 2005

The TRAPT album, mixed by Andy Wallace. HUGE LOW END.

Steve
www.bangrecording.com
www.blacklinerock.com

DirkB · 4th May 2005

The last Chevelle disk, mixed by the master AW...

Although very loud mastered, still it has huge bottom, fat kick and good dynamics. It's my reference for modern rock...

Greetings,
Dirk

Brad Blackwood · 4th May 2005

Peter Gabriel's 'UP' (well, anything recently mixed by Tchad Blake)

Travl · 4th May 2005

Anything Parlament Funkadelic when Bootsy was playing. I LOVE the sound of the low end on the whole album of DR. Funkenstien. Kick, bass, everything sounds exactly as it should to my ears.

blackcatdigi · 4th May 2005

2nd R.A.T.M. (forget the title)

Pantera "Far Beyond Driven"

Dr. Dre "Chronic 2000"

Steve Earle "Guitartown"

Mother's Finest "Another Mother Further" and/or "MotherFactor"

Pat Travers "Heat in the Street"

Neil Young "Harvest Moon"

Don Henley "End of Innocence"

Gino Vannelli "Nightwalker"

Ozzy "No More Tears"

Mike Tholen · 5th May 2005

The Secret Machines

Charlie Sexton - "Under The Wishing Tree"

reggiesears · 5th May 2009

Johnny Hates Jazz-Tall Stories
Korn-Follow The Leader
Anything By Cheap Trick(except for the Jon Brandt albums...Sorry Jon)
Anything that NIN releases
Parliament(any of their albums for Bass Quality...Not Exactly earth-quake like shattering, but the bass is mixed perfect...especially the "Placebo Syndrum"
D'Angelo-Voodoo
R Kelly-The Chocolate Factory
The New Power Generation(any of their albums)
The Chronic
The Cure-Bloodflowers

recall · 5th May 2009

Daniel Lanois - shine.

biggator6 · 5th May 2009

Holy resurrected thread, batman!

tINY · 5th May 2009

Here's a reference...

-tINY

Slikjmuzik · 5th May 2009

I produce and mix a lot of rock and metal and my favorite low end songs are from the country genre. Very clear, tight and focused, but still big.

Here are a couple...

Deanna Carter - We Danced Anyway
Tim McGraw - Just to See You Smile

Absolutely flawless low end.

Cameron Johnson · 5th May 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by tINY

Here's a reference...

-tINY

Dammit, tINY! You beat me to it!

kosmokrator · 5th May 2009

Seeed 'Dancehall Caballeros'.
Serious lowend!!

Blue Lizard · 5th May 2009

"Up Er Mei" from James Taylor's Hourglass has always been a low-end favourite for me.

fakiekid · 6th May 2009

Queens of the Stone Age - No One Knows

beautifully clear and open lows imo.

PlatinumSamples · 6th May 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayfrigo

Meshelle N'Degnecello's 2nd album (the one with the bluish cover - forget the name)

Meshell N'Degeocello - "Peace Beyond Passion".

Rail

jmikeperkins · 6th May 2009

"Come Together" by the Beatles on their Abbey Road CD is a great one for finding something close to a maximum bass level you can get away with. Its VERY interesting to compare the version on Abbey Road with the take 1 version on Anthology 3. The bass on take one from Anthology 3 has almost no processing but the Abbey Road CD version has generous eq and compression (presumably from the EMI solid state TG1234 board). "Penny Lane" is another track with great bass. With Penny Lane, I believe the bass was recorded last and Geoff Emerick used a C12 as a room mic to make it sound bigger. "Rain" also has amazing bass, where Geoff Emerick used a speaker as a mic to add more bass. Its also worth mentioning that Paul used the Rickenbacker 4001 (with flat wounds) for all 3 of these. Just amazing playing and great low end.

J. Mike Perkins
J. Mike Perkins on MySpace Music - Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Videos

personpitch · 6th May 2009

Evil Urges off of Evil Urges by My Morning Jacket.

lakeshorephatty · 14th May 2009

Good topic. : )

First Wailers album "catch a fire"...

Fujiya & Miyagi

Recent Nigel Godrich stuff like the recent radiohead album.. Not monstrous, just huge and controlled..

on the right stereo i love the bass sound on "crime of the century"

Thats all i have in this computer here...

Russell

kulotzk · 23rd September 2009

How They Do It Man? any Idea To Share?

kodomo · 23rd September 2009

For big big big bass
check out:

Tipper - Maximum Bass Broadcast

it even includes bass frequency test tones, and frequency sweeps of bass

Tipper - 8 Track Exclusive Album Sampler (CD, Mixed) at Discogs

leaper · 23rd September 2009

And from the heavier camp:

Sepultura "Roots" - the track "straight hate" is a great test for studio speakers. Just on the edge of too much.

Weedeater "God luck and good speed" - Too much sub bass for a well designed monitor/room combination to withstand. Very useful reference when checking out studios.

Lou Reed "Hudson River Wind Meditations" - i think it's the first track on the album ("move your heart"?) that has low bass sine waves. A real work out for woofers and subs.

PRobb · 23rd September 2009

Wrecking Ball- the album Emmy Lou Harris did with Daniel Lanois

3rd May 2005	#1
caseyLA Gear nut Joined: Sep 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 112 Thread Starter	Big Bottom References? What are some of your favorite songs/albums to use to reference the low end of your mixes? I'm trying to compile some reference material with big kick drums and fat bass lines (both acoustic and electronic). Low end that is mixed in just the right proportions, is tight, and big. Any suggestions? thanks

4th May 2005	#3
Sounds Great Gear Guru Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 15,303 1 Review written	Check Sting's 'Brand New Day'. Available on both CD and SACD. Some huge bass on there. Room shaking bass. __________________ http://soundcloud.com/sounds-great-1 -Rob And these children that you spit on As they try to change their worlds Are immune to your consultations They're quite aware of what they're going through

4th May 2005	#4
jayfrigo Moderator Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,389	A few that pop into my mind at the moment are Soul Coughing's Super Bon Bon, Meshelle N'Degnecello's 2nd album (the one with the bluish cover - forget the name) and the two albums, but especially the first, from The Getaway People. __________________ Jay Frigoletto Mastersuite www.promastering.com www.studiometronome.com

4th May 2005	#9
DirkB Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,723	The last Chevelle disk, mixed by the master AW... Although very loud mastered, still it has huge bottom, fat kick and good dynamics. It's my reference for modern rock... Greetings, Dirk __________________ -progress takes away what forever took to find- Dave Matthews

4th May 2005	#12
blackcatdigi Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: upstate, sc Posts: 1,739	2nd R.A.T.M. (forget the title) Pantera "Far Beyond Driven" Dr. Dre "Chronic 2000" Steve Earle "Guitartown" Mother's Finest "Another Mother Further" and/or "MotherFactor" Pat Travers "Heat in the Street" Neil Young "Harvest Moon" Don Henley "End of Innocence" Gino Vannelli "Nightwalker" Ozzy "No More Tears" __________________ Sincerely, Casey SC Digital Services Bob Olhsson wrote on 17th September 2002, 12:56 PM: "Music is being used to sort consumers rather than to entertain people."

4th May 2005	#2
alphajerk There is only one Joined: Jun 2002 Location: asheville NC Posts: 5,260	anything by bill laswell.

4th May 2005	#5
jebjerome Gear addict Joined: Feb 2004 Location: Easy Bay, California Posts: 474	D'Angelo Voodoo.

4th May 2005	#6
Vari-Mu Gear maniac Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 250	Bob Power in general. Cheers Vari-Mu

4th May 2005	#7
tINY Gear Guru Joined: Jul 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 10,234	Thomas Dolby - Aliens ate my Buick NIN - Pretty Hate Machine Crash Test Dummies -tINY

4th May 2005	#8
Bang Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,701	The TRAPT album, mixed by Andy Wallace. HUGE LOW END. Steve www.bangrecording.com www.blacklinerock.com

4th May 2005	#10
Brad Blackwood Craneslut Joined: Jun 2002 Location: The home of Rock-n-Roll, Memphis, TN Posts: 1,902	Peter Gabriel's 'UP' (well, anything recently mixed by Tchad Blake)

4th May 2005	#11
Travl Gear Head Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 64	Anything Parlament Funkadelic when Bootsy was playing. I LOVE the sound of the low end on the whole album of DR. Funkenstien. Kick, bass, everything sounds exactly as it should to my ears.

5th May 2005	#13
Mike Tholen Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 901	The Secret Machines Charlie Sexton - "Under The Wishing Tree"

5th May 2009	#14
reggiesears Gear nut Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Miami, FL(Opa Locka/Liberty City) Posts: 138	Johnny Hates Jazz-Tall Stories Korn-Follow The Leader Anything By Cheap Trick(except for the Jon Brandt albums...Sorry Jon) Anything that NIN releases Parliament(any of their albums for Bass Quality...Not Exactly earth-quake like shattering, but the bass is mixed perfect...especially the "Placebo Syndrum" D'Angelo-Voodoo R Kelly-The Chocolate Factory The New Power Generation(any of their albums) The Chronic The Cure-Bloodflowers

5th May 2009	#15
recall Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2006 Location: west wales Posts: 1,756	Daniel Lanois - shine.

5th May 2009	#16
biggator6 Lives for gear Joined: May 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,980	Holy resurrected thread, batman!

5th May 2009	#18
Slikjmuzik Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2008 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 2,699	I produce and mix a lot of rock and metal and my favorite low end songs are from the country genre. Very clear, tight and focused, but still big. Here are a couple... Deanna Carter - We Danced Anyway Tim McGraw - Just to See You Smile Absolutely flawless low end. __________________ Julian Ear Candy Studios www.earcandystudios.com It's the indian, not the arrow...

5th May 2009	#20
kosmokrator mymixisbetterthanyours! Joined: Oct 2006 Location: Berlin Posts: 1,759	Seeed 'Dancehall Caballeros'. Serious lowend!!

5th May 2009	#21
Blue Lizard Gear Head Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Cleethorpes, UK Posts: 63	"Up Er Mei" from James Taylor's Hourglass has always been a low-end favourite for me. __________________ "It's not pretty, also you can't dance to it" Frank Zappa

6th May 2009	#22
fakiekid Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Nottingham Posts: 659	Queens of the Stone Age - No One Knows beautifully clear and open lows imo.

6th May 2009	#24
jmikeperkins Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 844	Bottom end "Come Together" by the Beatles on their Abbey Road CD is a great one for finding something close to a maximum bass level you can get away with. Its VERY interesting to compare the version on Abbey Road with the take 1 version on Anthology 3. The bass on take one from Anthology 3 has almost no processing but the Abbey Road CD version has generous eq and compression (presumably from the EMI solid state TG1234 board). "Penny Lane" is another track with great bass. With Penny Lane, I believe the bass was recorded last and Geoff Emerick used a C12 as a room mic to make it sound bigger. "Rain" also has amazing bass, where Geoff Emerick used a speaker as a mic to add more bass. Its also worth mentioning that Paul used the Rickenbacker 4001 (with flat wounds) for all 3 of these. Just amazing playing and great low end. J. Mike Perkins J. Mike Perkins on MySpace Music - Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Videos

6th May 2009	#25
personpitch Gear maniac Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 173	Evil Urges off of Evil Urges by My Morning Jacket.

14th May 2009	#26
lakeshorephatty Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,525	Good topic. : ) First Wailers album "catch a fire"... Fujiya & Miyagi Recent Nigel Godrich stuff like the recent radiohead album.. Not monstrous, just huge and controlled.. on the right stereo i love the bass sound on "crime of the century" Thats all i have in this computer here... Russell

23rd September 2009	#27
kulotzk Gear interested Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 6	Big Bottom How They Do It Man? any Idea To Share?

23rd September 2009	#28
kodomo Gear maniac Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 150	For big big big bass check out: Tipper - Maximum Bass Broadcast it even includes bass frequency test tones, and frequency sweeps of bass Tipper - 8 Track Exclusive Album Sampler (CD, Mixed) at Discogs

23rd September 2009	#29
leaper Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 858	And from the heavier camp: Sepultura "Roots" - the track "straight hate" is a great test for studio speakers. Just on the edge of too much. Weedeater "God luck and good speed" - Too much sub bass for a well designed monitor/room combination to withstand. Very useful reference when checking out studios. Lou Reed "Hudson River Wind Meditations" - i think it's the first track on the album ("move your heart"?) that has low bass sine waves. A real work out for woofers and subs. __________________ "Subterfuge and deceit in arguing about talking about talking about making music is just spectacularly odd." Mousdrvr

23rd September 2009	#30
PRobb Gear Guru Joined: Jun 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 14,163	Wrecking Ball- the album Emmy Lou Harris did with Daniel Lanois

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