NIN-With teeth

Prickstein · 2nd May 2005, 06:16 AM

Just got my copy of the new Nine Inch Nails album which I've been waiting for in anticipation for a while now. Got it on the monitors now having my first listen. Any fellow NIN fans willing to share opinions on it. (I'm only up to track 2 at the moment)

thethrillfactor · 2nd May 2005, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prickstein

Just got my copy of the new Nine Inch Nails album which I've been waiting for in anticipation for a while now. Got it on the monitors now having my first listen. Any fellow NIN fans willing to share opinions on it. (I'm only up to track 2 at the moment)

Yeah it sucks.

Very dissapointing.

It sounds like Trent Reznor doing covers of Trent Reznor(sorry Trent).

My favorite tracks are the cheesy dance track and the last track.

He has a track in there also that's very Talking Headish which has potential.

Everything else in the middle of the records sounds like fillers.

I heard this was supposed to be more Rock oriented but where is the Rock?

Soundwise it lacks Alan Moulder's touches alot.

Lets face it...

The Fragile was his pinnacle, a great one at that.

Anything coming after compared to it will pale in comparison.

But Trent come on!!

Prickstein · 2nd May 2005, 06:33 AM

OK, up to track 7 now, still waiting for the rock. I like the sense of space so far without countless overdubs on everything.

littledoodler · 2nd May 2005, 09:00 AM

Considering this studio of his that shit should be good, it just proves you can own the best gear in the world and still suck shit.

AnalogBob · 2nd May 2005, 09:07 AM

If you don't like it you could always make it better...... Trent released all of the Loops for one song on his website...

nin.com/current/index.html

everybody's x · 2nd May 2005, 10:44 AM

as long as you're a mac user

Slogun · 2nd May 2005, 11:11 AM

Been a NIN fan since Pretty hate machine. I've always liked that album the most, but I agree that The Fragile is his best produced album, and Hurt being his best track.
Haven't heard his new album though but I guess I'm one of those who hope that it's not rock'ier

silverdisk · 2nd May 2005, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

Yeah it sucks.

Very dissapointing.

It sounds like Trent Reznor doing covers of Trent Reznor(sorry Trent).

My favorite tracks are the cheesy dance track and the last track.

He has a track in there also that's very Talking Headish which has potential.

Everything else in the middle of the records sounds like fillers.

I heard this was supposed to be more Rock oriented but where is the Rock?

Soundwise it lacks Alan Moulder's touches alot.

Lets face it...

The Fragile was his pinnacle, a great one at that.

Anything coming after compared to it will pale in comparison.

But Trent come on!!

I have only heard the single.... but i totally agree.

sounds pretty uninspired

with all due respect to Trent and his crew

Prickstein · 3rd May 2005, 02:11 AM

OK listened to it a couple of times now and it's growing on me, wasn't the "rock" album I was expecting but I think I'm digging it. Funny, release date on the website says the 3rd but it was in the record store on Sunday. I guess being in Australia 'm almost a day ahead of the US as well.

Prickstein · 3rd May 2005, 02:21 AM

The first thing that struck me was that the vocals came in so early on the first track (about 4 secs in) that I thought I had accidentally started on track 2. Trent is sounding a lot more confident in the yodelling department.

chaka89 · 3rd May 2005, 02:38 AM

yeah i think his vocals are definetely more confident on this record. despite some negative reviews, i'm pretty into this record. i think it has some cool characteristics and definetely in my opinion sounds more developed in the song structure area. but i know some of my friends disagree. its just one that i think will grow on people. if i recall right, i think it was the same for fragile for a lot of my friends. it didn't start out being the amazing record that people see it as now.

Pink · 3rd May 2005, 03:20 AM

I love it, I've had a promo for a little while now and I'm really into it. I think when people say more "rock" they mean just more singy and chorusy which it definately is - still some good synth-work and sounds though just less of the focus.
Man I love "Only", great track, it's like "Down In It" meets "Once In A Lifetime", with a serious Motown groove. Good stuff!

jasonare · 3rd May 2005, 04:57 AM

Another fan here and I agree with most of you... What the hell has he done.

I have listened to With Teeth and found myself skipping through most of it, which I know is perhaps not fair, but its incredibly un-inspiring and boring crap.

I personaly think this is the worst record he's ever done and the general consensus around me is ithat t might be alright if it wasnt NIN.

Some think he peaked at PHM, but for me it was D/Sprial, Fragile was great but it still had it's weaknesses.

It's all a shame really and it's another example of why I have left guitary based music behind.

denial · 3rd May 2005, 05:12 AM

Like all NIN tracks, the more times you hear it, the more you hear in it. It's a great record with lots of interesting pieces throughout.

I'd never expect Trent to duplicate a record so I'm happy with the direction and songs. It's all good stuff and I think we'll see some opinions change over time.

Prickstein · 3rd May 2005, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonare

Some think he peaked at PHM, but for me it was D/Sprial, Fragile was great but it still had it's weaknesses.

It's all a shame really and it's another example of why I have left guitary based music behind.

I was hoping for something MORE guitar orientated like "Broken" which I absolutely love.

Yutaka · 3rd May 2005, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prickstein

I was hoping for something MORE guitar orientated like "Broken" which I absolutely love.

Then you might like the new Alec Empire album.

Tom VDH · 3rd May 2005, 02:53 PM

Hi ya'all,

I was really disappointed when I first heard "The hand that feeds" 3 weeks ago, but I'm getting used to it. The album doesn't have the striking beauty of "the fragile" but I'm sure it'll be considered a good album in the long run.

Giving away parts of a song is a great idea, very generous!
We'll see where this experiment goes, but I'm definitely going to remix it!

Cheers,

Tom VDH

caseyLA · 3rd May 2005, 08:16 PM

"I'm getting used to it"....

I've heard that a few times now about this album. I can't seem to get used to
uninspired music.

I'd like to hear Trent scrap everything except the piano parts and do an entire album of depressing ballads. That would rock way more than this album.

Prickstein · 4th May 2005, 04:47 AM

So where are the liner notes? Link takes you "there is nothing here"

Pink · 4th May 2005, 08:15 AM

The liner notes are here.

Renie · 4th May 2005, 11:48 AM

a bit toothless you'd all say then?

N.J. · 4th May 2005, 05:21 PM

Anyone having problems playing the DVD-A portion of the dual-disc? I can play the CD side, the DVD-V video, and the Dolby 5.1 mixes, but the DVD-A (surround and stereo) play the tracks, but have no output.

I didn't have any problem with the Downward Spiral dual-disc. Could it be the FBI copy protection?

caseyLA · 4th May 2005, 07:13 PM

Word around here is that NIN was amazing at the Coachella festival. Anyone catch that show this past weekend?

wallace · 4th May 2005, 08:56 PM

I liked the first songs, but I've never been an avid NIIN fan... I heard it here.

http://www.myspace.com/ninofficial

alexhornbake · 4th May 2005, 09:53 PM

Any Logic users want to be nice, and export an OMF version of the "Hand that feeds you" garage band file for a Cubase Sx user such as myself, I'm really curious to check it out.

Thanks guys.

Orren · 6th May 2005, 10:11 PM

I've listened to it many times straight through at this point. I agree it grows on you.

But I feel the songs are great. I also like the production--the drums especially sound very well recorded (the live drums, not the samples ;) ).

Sometimes I feel that there is a certain...cynicism...that pervades technical message boards (as opposed to "fanboy" sites that have nothing but idol worship nonesense), but I think that if one puts this in the context of modern commercial major label music and his own output, "With Teeth" fits in nicely with his body of work, and is better than most of the crap out there the majors are shovelling.

Orren

everybody's x · 6th May 2005, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexhornbake

Any Logic users want to be nice, and export an OMF version of the "Hand that feeds you" garage band file for a Cubase Sx user such as myself, I'm really curious to check it out.

Thanks guys.

pardahl · 7th May 2005, 10:29 PM

I've learned with all the NIN works not to expect another Pretty Hate Machine, Broken, Downward Spiral or Fragile. That's what I think makes NIN (Trent Reznor) be a genius of music, all his works are totally different but they still sound like NIN. When I was waiting for the Downward Spiral I never thought it was going to sound like it sounded. The same with The Fragile. I expected another masterpiece of noisy-industrial-tortured music. What did we receive? The Fragile, a masterpiece of layered-organic music. And what happened the two times? My first reaction was to say... give me back the money, I don't want to throw my money with crap albums, but time made me understand and apreciate everything that sounds in a NIN album. And with "With Teeth" happens the same. It sounds strange to me, but I don't think as I used to. I love when an album makes me say... what the **** is this? Let me listen again to it. I like to see and understand the differences between all the other stuff I've heard. I don't like when "Meteora" is exactly the same as "Hybrid Theory"... That's is really very very boring.

Saludos.

Timsplace · 8th May 2005, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.J.

Anyone having problems playing the DVD-A portion of the dual-disc? I can play the CD side, the DVD-V video, and the Dolby 5.1 mixes, but the DVD-A (surround and stereo) play the tracks, but have no output.

I didn't have any problem with the Downward Spiral dual-disc. Could it be the FBI copy protection?

Are you sure there is a DVD-A portion? Just because it's a "Dualdisc" doesn't mean it's got DVD-A on the DVD side. In fact, I didn't think any of the dualdisc's had DVD-A on them. I could be wrong though.

Tim

Tibbon · 8th May 2005, 06:01 PM

The last song on the album is the best by far.

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2nd May 2005, 06:16 AM	#1
Prickstein Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 438	NIN-With teeth Just got my copy of the new Nine Inch Nails album which I've been waiting for in anticipation for a while now. Got it on the monitors now having my first listen. Any fellow NIN fans willing to share opinions on it. (I'm only up to track 2 at the moment) __________________ Every day I learn something new (with a little help from my slutz), and that keeps me going. www.myspace.com/rickhollis

2nd May 2005, 06:33 AM	#3
Prickstein Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 438	OK, up to track 7 now, still waiting for the rock. I like the sense of space so far without countless overdubs on everything. __________________ Every day I learn something new (with a little help from my slutz), and that keeps me going. www.myspace.com/rickhollis

2nd May 2005, 09:00 AM	#4
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AnalogBob Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 480	If you don't like it you could always make it better...... Trent released all of the Loops for one song on his website... nin.com/current/index.html

2nd May 2005, 11:11 AM	#7
Slogun Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sweden, Malmö Posts: 341	Been a NIN fan since Pretty hate machine. I've always liked that album the most, but I agree that The Fragile is his best produced album, and Hurt being his best track. Haven't heard his new album though but I guess I'm one of those who hope that it's not rock'ier __________________ http://www.servantstudio.com http://www.myspace.com/servantstudio

3rd May 2005, 02:11 AM	#9
Prickstein Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 438	OK listened to it a couple of times now and it's growing on me, wasn't the "rock" album I was expecting but I think I'm digging it. Funny, release date on the website says the 3rd but it was in the record store on Sunday. I guess being in Australia 'm almost a day ahead of the US as well. __________________ Every day I learn something new (with a little help from my slutz), and that keeps me going. www.myspace.com/rickhollis

3rd May 2005, 02:21 AM	#10
Prickstein Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 438	The first thing that struck me was that the vocals came in so early on the first track (about 4 secs in) that I thought I had accidentally started on track 2. Trent is sounding a lot more confident in the yodelling department. __________________ Every day I learn something new (with a little help from my slutz), and that keeps me going. www.myspace.com/rickhollis

3rd May 2005, 02:38 AM	#11
chaka89 Gear Head Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: richmond, va Posts: 30	yeah i think his vocals are definetely more confident on this record. despite some negative reviews, i'm pretty into this record. i think it has some cool characteristics and definetely in my opinion sounds more developed in the song structure area. but i know some of my friends disagree. its just one that i think will grow on people. if i recall right, i think it was the same for fragile for a lot of my friends. it didn't start out being the amazing record that people see it as now.

3rd May 2005, 03:20 AM	#12
Pink Gear interested Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 21	I love it, I've had a promo for a little while now and I'm really into it. I think when people say more "rock" they mean just more singy and chorusy which it definately is - still some good synth-work and sounds though just less of the focus. Man I love "Only", great track, it's like "Down In It" meets "Once In A Lifetime", with a serious Motown groove. Good stuff!

3rd May 2005, 04:57 AM	#13
jasonare Gear Head Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Perth Posts: 38	Disappointed Another fan here and I agree with most of you... What the hell has he done. I have listened to With Teeth and found myself skipping through most of it, which I know is perhaps not fair, but its incredibly un-inspiring and boring crap. I personaly think this is the worst record he's ever done and the general consensus around me is ithat t might be alright if it wasnt NIN. Some think he peaked at PHM, but for me it was D/Sprial, Fragile was great but it still had it's weaknesses. It's all a shame really and it's another example of why I have left guitary based music behind. __________________ www.templeoftears.com

3rd May 2005, 05:12 AM	#14
denial Gear addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 497	Like all NIN tracks, the more times you hear it, the more you hear in it. It's a great record with lots of interesting pieces throughout. I'd never expect Trent to duplicate a record so I'm happy with the direction and songs. It's all good stuff and I think we'll see some opinions change over time. __________________ "Fix it in the marketing"

3rd May 2005, 02:53 PM	#17
Tom VDH Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the studio Posts: 207	Hi ya'all, I was really disappointed when I first heard "The hand that feeds" 3 weeks ago, but I'm getting used to it. The album doesn't have the striking beauty of "the fragile" but I'm sure it'll be considered a good album in the long run. Giving away parts of a song is a great idea, very generous! We'll see where this experiment goes, but I'm definitely going to remix it! Cheers, Tom VDH

3rd May 2005, 08:16 PM	#18
caseyLA Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 103	"I'm getting used to it".... I've heard that a few times now about this album. I can't seem to get used to uninspired music. I'd like to hear Trent scrap everything except the piano parts and do an entire album of depressing ballads. That would rock way more than this album.

4th May 2005, 04:47 AM	#19
Prickstein Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 438	So where are the liner notes? Link takes you "there is nothing here" __________________ Every day I learn something new (with a little help from my slutz), and that keeps me going. www.myspace.com/rickhollis

4th May 2005, 08:15 AM	#20
Pink Gear interested Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 21	The liner notes are here.

4th May 2005, 11:48 AM	#21
Renie Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 1,785	a bit toothless you'd all say then? __________________ www.christisloving.com

4th May 2005, 05:21 PM	#22
N.J. Gear nut Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 89	DVD-A Anyone having problems playing the DVD-A portion of the dual-disc? I can play the CD side, the DVD-V video, and the Dolby 5.1 mixes, but the DVD-A (surround and stereo) play the tracks, but have no output. I didn't have any problem with the Downward Spiral dual-disc. Could it be the FBI copy protection? __________________ Cheers, N.J. nj@izcorp.com 1-800-776-1356 "...actually I can hold a note forever. But eventually that's just noise. It's the change we're listening for. The note coming after, and the one after that. That's what makes it music."

4th May 2005, 07:13 PM	#23
caseyLA Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 103	Word around here is that NIN was amazing at the Coachella festival. Anyone catch that show this past weekend?

4th May 2005, 08:56 PM	#24
wallace Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 959	I liked the first songs, but I've never been an avid NIIN fan... I heard it here. http://www.myspace.com/ninofficial

4th May 2005, 09:53 PM	#25
alexhornbake Gear interested Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 20	OMF file Any Logic users want to be nice, and export an OMF version of the "Hand that feeds you" garage band file for a Cubase Sx user such as myself, I'm really curious to check it out. Thanks guys.

6th May 2005, 10:11 PM	#26
Orren Gear addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 344	I've listened to it many times straight through at this point. I agree it grows on you. But I feel the songs are great. I also like the production--the drums especially sound very well recorded (the live drums, not the samples ;) ). Sometimes I feel that there is a certain...cynicism...that pervades technical message boards (as opposed to "fanboy" sites that have nothing but idol worship nonesense), but I think that if one puts this in the context of modern commercial major label music and his own output, "With Teeth" fits in nicely with his body of work, and is better than most of the crap out there the majors are shovelling. Orren __________________ Geartalk Blog www.emberafter.com www.myspace.com/emberafter *Buy new CD Grasping At Straws* at:** • CD Baby • Amazon MP3 Downloads Store • iTunes Music Store

7th May 2005, 10:29 PM	#28
pardahl Gear Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mallorca - Spain Posts: 38	I've learned with all the NIN works not to expect another Pretty Hate Machine, Broken, Downward Spiral or Fragile. That's what I think makes NIN (Trent Reznor) be a genius of music, all his works are totally different but they still sound like NIN. When I was waiting for the Downward Spiral I never thought it was going to sound like it sounded. The same with The Fragile. I expected another masterpiece of noisy-industrial-tortured music. What did we receive? The Fragile, a masterpiece of layered-organic music. And what happened the two times? My first reaction was to say... give me back the money, I don't want to throw my money with crap albums, but time made me understand and apreciate everything that sounds in a NIN album. And with "With Teeth" happens the same. It sounds strange to me, but I don't think as I used to. I love when an album makes me say... what the **** is this? Let me listen again to it. I like to see and understand the differences between all the other stuff I've heard. I don't like when "Meteora" is exactly the same as "Hybrid Theory"... That's is really very very boring. Saludos.

8th May 2005, 06:01 PM	#30
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