Geetar Pedals - What are the best distortion pedals?

faeflora · 9th March 2003, 04:00 AM

I want to pick up a whole messload of pedals for my studio.

At this point I only need distortion pedals.

So what's the best stuff out there?

NathanEldred · 9th March 2003, 04:46 AM

I really like my Mesa V-Twin. I've also had really good luck with the Boss Metal Zone (the black one)....that one really suprised me. Both are run through the clean section of my all tube Sovtek with 5881's and it's been modded with orange drops and a few other goodies. It's not the same through lesser amps. Both those pedals are "heavy" but they are polar opposites in tone. It's a great sound when the player is good, and helps a shitty player out a little.

mdbeh · 9th March 2003, 05:33 AM

Zfex pedals are very cool. I've got one called a Super Hard On, that's supposedly a clean boost.

While it works great for that, to smack an amp's pre silly, it also gives everything that passes through it a tone that makes things really stand out in the mix. It almost reminds me of the sound you get cranking the gain on an 1176 or something similar.

SHO+ Little Labs PCP can be a livesaver in mixing, when a part just won't stand out the way it should.

Meriphew · 9th March 2003, 06:14 AM

The Menatone line is very good - Dirty Blonde, Top Boost in a Can.
ZVEX is great for extreme/unusual sounds.
Crowthers Hotcake works well with Vox style amps.
The MJM Blue Devil is prolly the best tube screamer type pedal in existance.

faeflora · 9th March 2003, 06:24 AM

I saw that mesa boogie v pedal but the asthetic yelled AUDIOPHILE GARBAGE to me. I'm wary of anything that shows off the wondermous tubes inside! I know geetar gear is different and that axefondlers like to see their toobs, but I'm still very afraid.

I've heard the amp simulators but they just sound like crap to me. I want to have a huge pedalboard sitting on the floor.

jajjguy · 9th March 2003, 06:37 AM

My favorite is the Centaur made by Klon. Not many of them around. I wanted a very specific thing: a pedal that could give me the sound of my amp driven a bit harder. Mostly, I wanted a lead boost that would push things just a bit into overdrive. "Just a bit" is the tricky part. Plenty of pedals have a great distorto sound, but i wanted to ride the edge when it'd break up a bit on a loud note and still be fairly clean on a softer note. Centaur was the only one i found that could do that. And it still sounds like whatever amp you're playing, only overdriven a bit. You can set the dials so that it isn't affecting the sound at all and then gradually dial it up from there. I guess it's kind of a purist pedal.

I also really like the Rat, which is another pedal where you can dial in "just a bit" of the overdrive, but of course the overdrive sound of the Rat is much edgier and nastier than straight amp overdrive.

plexi · 9th March 2003, 08:58 AM

Boss DS-1 the 70`s standard with Marshals
Boss SD-1. Sounds good with a JCM 800 for 80`s rock
Ibanez TS-808: the famous Tube Screamer, SRV fav.
Chandler Tube Driver, Great natural tube drive.
DOD "Gonkulator" Distortion and ring modulator, crazy sounding!
Fulltone 70`, great for spitty fuzz tones
t.c.electronic distortion, really good , expensive.
Boss Heavy Metal:, sounds smooth and rich....

There are plenty of others I have used that don`t suck, when it comes to
distortion pedals, it`s a jungle of options.....

Amund

CrazyBeast · 9th March 2003, 09:02 AM

mxr. the old ones.

peteri · 9th March 2003, 11:43 AM

I have one of the original Marshall Guv'nors and they are very good.

The thing that I'm loving at the moment is a Matchless Hotbox which I got off ebay. Meant to be the front end of a Matchless amp, looks great (all retro chrome) and sounds simply wonderful, clean or dirty.

And with the Marshall in front of it - absolutely screams!

Pete

Mats Olsson · 9th March 2003, 12:54 PM

How much is a used TC Boost/Dist pedal in good shape going for ?

/Mats

9th March 2003, 12:57 PM

Hot cake

I need more!

Interesting thread!

BattleAngel · 9th March 2003, 03:01 PM

I can't really add much else to Kent's list besides saying that my Zachary Vex Super-Two-In-One or whatever it's called is an absolutely amazing device for overdrive. Really unique sounding. I don't tend to like the Matchless pedals, but that's just me I think. Also, you owe it to yourself to check out Barber Electronics. Their Direct Drive, Tone Pump, and Burn Unit pedals are to die for. Also I'm going to say that I thought the Marshall Jackhammer was really cool for a super heavy grunge tone. Not 'pretty' or 'boutique' by any stretch of the imagination, but cool none the less. And of course, the Guv'nor is amazing.

alphajerk · 9th March 2003, 03:03 PM

i like the drive on the moog pedals.... i use that most of the time with whatever pedals effect bypassed [or not]

Midlandmorgan · 9th March 2003, 03:15 PM

I prefer TS808s, Ibanez TubeKings (TK999), and other 'mild-mannered' fuzz boxes...a little distortion goes an awful long way, I think.

Steve Smith · 9th March 2003, 03:39 PM

A guitarist that is in here alot has a Reverend Overdrive pedal that sounds very cool. I am not a guitarist, but it works great in his rig!

vodka gimli · 9th March 2003, 04:13 PM

These are the pedals I have the most experience with:

Fulltone Fulldrive II: A broader Tube Screamer tone with defeatable comp switch. Two channels for "more and more-er" options.

Vox Valvetone: Sounds like an AC-15 in a pedal. Handy when you have a studio full of Fender amps. Discontinued, I think.

Ibanez Mostortion: '80's mosfet overdrive that sounds like a Tube Screamer with 3-band EQ. I got mine 'cause Lee Roy Parnell uses one. (I teched for him for a year). Discontinued.

Ibanez TS-10 Tube Screamer:
80's version...different flavor of the classic TS. Discontinued.

Bixonix Expandora: a dip-switch equipped OD/DIST/FUZZ pedal. Always worth a try. I have the original version, there is a new one out.

Barber Burn Unit: Fat Robben Ford-esque OD.

Menatone Dirty Blonde: Best I've heard in front of a Fender - sounds like whatever amp you are using turned all the way up. Pretty amazing.

Boss Blues Driver: Sounds great. Boss's version of the TS with a bit more low end intact.

Klon Centaur: Sounds like your amp turned up with a slight mid-boost...a boutique TS.

adam_w · 9th March 2003, 05:49 PM

Jekyll & Hyde - 2 tube screamer circuits in a box

Tim L · 9th March 2003, 06:10 PM

I have an "81" MXR distortion+ that I've had for 22 years and still have lotsa' love for... Man, I've had that pedal a long time!

faeflora · 9th March 2003, 06:10 PM

es, I'm really looking for heavy distortion meaning extreme FX.

The tube screamer pedals always sound lightweight and half cranked to my ears.

Whoa I'm gonna end up spending like $3000 on pedals. Scary because I'm selling some of my good pres (in the slutz classified if you're interested) for what'll end up being like 10-20 pedals. Trading ultra hi fi for ultra low fi. It seems so wrong!

Meriphew · 9th March 2003, 11:02 PM

If you're specifically looking for extreme, then check out:
ZVEX - Fuzz Factory
ZVEX - Fuzz Probe
Zvex - Machine
ZVEX - Wooly Mammoth
Prescription Electronics - Experience
Death By Audio - Soundsaw
Menatone - King of the Britains

infiniteposse · 10th March 2003, 12:13 AM

I'll 2nd the call for the Visual Sounds "Jekyll & Hyde" pedal. It gives me the nice low key overdrive sounds and then can go all the way to crazed in another stomp. It's also built like a small brick which is also a plus. It's a good match for my Deluxe Reverb reissue.

http://www.visualsound.net/JHpage.html

I also like the Tubescreamer and Guvnor combo on my Blues Junior, but not with my Deluxe for some reason... Go figure.

Gone Fission · 10th March 2003, 03:08 AM

The Zoom Ultrafuzz is supposed to be a poor man's Fuzz Factory. A little more generic sounding in more normal operation, but capable of some serious mayhem. Tragically, none of the local shops seem to carry them.

Bear

Coldsnow · 10th March 2003, 03:37 AM

My favorites are the:
Tube screamer
Turbo Rat
Tech21 XXL (great sounding pedal and the warp function is really cool).

Sir Bob · 10th March 2003, 06:13 AM

The classic fuzz is still and will always be the Fuzz Face. Analogman, see www. analogman.com, makes an improved version called a Sun Face. Go check out his web page.

Most of the pedals mentioned are gain pedals. Gain helps a guitarist with poor technique but is not really necessary in a recording environment. Also the more gain, the less tone. See Boogie amps.

Stepping on a Super Hard On, Klon or a Tubescreamer is great in a live situation but these are basically gain. The Tubesceamer sounds like a buzzsaw when you add gain.

ojay · 10th March 2003, 12:25 PM

DI'd into DDA AMR with mic gain full wack!

mdbeh · 10th March 2003, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sir Bob
Stepping on a Super Hard On, Klon or a Tubescreamer is great in a live situation but these are basically gain

Basically gain, but not quite. I know of a number of guys who'll record lots of guitars, even clean ones, through the Super Hard On just for the sound.

j.johnston · 10th March 2003, 02:41 PM

A Rockman sustainer will give you a very controlled, fuzzy, 80's style distortion for not to much money. It can also get a smooth, polytone like, clean sound.

atticus · 10th March 2003, 02:55 PM

"Expandora". Nothing else. Buy four. Or five.

thedoublelife · 10th March 2003, 03:02 PM

my vote goes to bixonic expandora II

chap · 10th March 2003, 03:30 PM

As a session player/producer/road dog, I've been required to have most or all of these at various times. Here's the ones I've kept:
Big Muff (the original one I bought in high school)
MXR Distortion plus (script)
Ibenez Tube Screamer
Boss Super overdrive
Mesa Boogie V Twin (awesome!)
Matchless Hotbox (great sound, should have a bypass)
Fulltone Overdrive ( someone say '60's?)
Rockman (gave it away, no gegrets)
Korg mini box (specific but cool '80s)
I have more in the studio but it's early.

the Fulltone has the most distortion of any box I've ever heard.

Richard Thompson gets a great sound with the V Twin

You can always chain these up to get your own
sonic mess.
good luck
chap

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9th March 2003, 04:00 AM	#1
faeflora Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: washington dc Posts: 2,010	Geetar Pedals - What are the best distortion pedals? I want to pick up a whole messload of pedals for my studio. At this point I only need distortion pedals. So what's the best stuff out there?

9th March 2003, 04:46 AM	#2
NathanEldred Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Coast Central Florida Posts: 5,369	I really like my Mesa V-Twin. I've also had really good luck with the Boss Metal Zone (the black one)....that one really suprised me. Both are run through the clean section of my all tube Sovtek with 5881's and it's been modded with orange drops and a few other goodies. It's not the same through lesser amps. Both those pedals are "heavy" but they are polar opposites in tone. It's a great sound when the player is good, and helps a shitty player out a little. __________________ Nathan Eldred Atlas Pro Audio- Boutique Gear, Consultation, Sales, & Distibution Home of the Atlas Juggernaut Preamp & 500 Series Revolver Rack USA Distributor for Buzz Audio, Exclusive Distributor for Atlas Pro Audio Gear and OSA Atlas Recording Studios, Inc. Recording/Mixing/Mastering Services

9th March 2003, 06:14 AM	#4
Meriphew Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle USA Posts: 2,175	The Menatone line is very good - Dirty Blonde, Top Boost in a Can. ZVEX is great for extreme/unusual sounds. Crowthers Hotcake works well with Vox style amps. The MJM Blue Devil is prolly the best tube screamer type pedal in existance. __________________ www.myspace.com/meriphew

9th March 2003, 08:58 AM	#7
plexi Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 98	Boss DS-1 the 70`s standard with Marshals Boss SD-1. Sounds good with a JCM 800 for 80`s rock Ibanez TS-808: the famous Tube Screamer, SRV fav. Chandler Tube Driver, Great natural tube drive. DOD "Gonkulator" Distortion and ring modulator, crazy sounding! Fulltone 70`, great for spitty fuzz tones t.c.electronic distortion, really good , expensive. Boss Heavy Metal:, sounds smooth and rich.... There are plenty of others I have used that don`t suck, when it comes to distortion pedals, it`s a jungle of options..... Amund __________________ "This person is a guitar player. They have the intellectual capacity of freshly mown grass. Do not ALLOW them to think. That will doom the record." Slipperman

9th March 2003, 05:33 AM	#3
mdbeh Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 428	Zfex pedals are very cool. I've got one called a Super Hard On, that's supposedly a clean boost. While it works great for that, to smack an amp's pre silly, it also gives everything that passes through it a tone that makes things really stand out in the mix. It almost reminds me of the sound you get cranking the gain on an 1176 or something similar. SHO+ Little Labs PCP can be a livesaver in mixing, when a part just won't stand out the way it should.

9th March 2003, 06:24 AM	#5
faeflora Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: washington dc Posts: 2,010	I saw that mesa boogie v pedal but the asthetic yelled AUDIOPHILE GARBAGE to me. I'm wary of anything that shows off the wondermous tubes inside! I know geetar gear is different and that axefondlers like to see their toobs, but I'm still very afraid. I've heard the amp simulators but they just sound like crap to me. I want to have a huge pedalboard sitting on the floor.

9th March 2003, 06:37 AM	#6
jajjguy Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA Posts: 368	My favorite is the Centaur made by Klon. Not many of them around. I wanted a very specific thing: a pedal that could give me the sound of my amp driven a bit harder. Mostly, I wanted a lead boost that would push things just a bit into overdrive. "Just a bit" is the tricky part. Plenty of pedals have a great distorto sound, but i wanted to ride the edge when it'd break up a bit on a loud note and still be fairly clean on a softer note. Centaur was the only one i found that could do that. And it still sounds like whatever amp you're playing, only overdriven a bit. You can set the dials so that it isn't affecting the sound at all and then gradually dial it up from there. I guess it's kind of a purist pedal. I also really like the Rat, which is another pedal where you can dial in "just a bit" of the overdrive, but of course the overdrive sound of the Rat is much edgier and nastier than straight amp overdrive.

9th March 2003, 09:02 AM	#8
CrazyBeast Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 423	mxr. the old ones. __________________ http://www.crazybeast.com http://www.myspace.com/crazybeaststudio

9th March 2003, 11:43 AM	#9
peteri Gear nut Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 105	I have one of the original Marshall Guv'nors and they are very good. The thing that I'm loving at the moment is a Matchless Hotbox which I got off ebay. Meant to be the front end of a Matchless amp, looks great (all retro chrome) and sounds simply wonderful, clean or dirty. And with the Marshall in front of it - absolutely screams! Pete

9th March 2003, 12:54 PM	#10
Mats Olsson Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Eskilstuna, Sweden Posts: 170	How much is a used TC Boost/Dist pedal in good shape going for ? /Mats

9th March 2003, 12:57 PM	#11
Jules Guest Posts: n/a	Hot cake I need more! Interesting thread!

9th March 2003, 03:01 PM	#12
BattleAngel Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 930	I can't really add much else to Kent's list besides saying that my Zachary Vex Super-Two-In-One or whatever it's called is an absolutely amazing device for overdrive. Really unique sounding. I don't tend to like the Matchless pedals, but that's just me I think. Also, you owe it to yourself to check out Barber Electronics. Their Direct Drive, Tone Pump, and Burn Unit pedals are to die for. Also I'm going to say that I thought the Marshall Jackhammer was really cool for a super heavy grunge tone. Not 'pretty' or 'boutique' by any stretch of the imagination, but cool none the less. And of course, the Guv'nor is amazing.

9th March 2003, 03:03 PM	#13
alphajerk There is only one Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: asheville NC Posts: 5,291	i like the drive on the moog pedals.... i use that most of the time with whatever pedals effect bypassed [or not]

9th March 2003, 03:15 PM	#14
Midlandmorgan Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Midland TX Posts: 1,076	I prefer TS808s, Ibanez TubeKings (TK999), and other 'mild-mannered' fuzz boxes...a little distortion goes an awful long way, I think. __________________ Ken Morgan Wireline Studio Midland, TX Don't Blame Me, I Just Recorded What You Played

9th March 2003, 03:39 PM	#15
Steve Smith Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,394	A guitarist that is in here alot has a Reverend Overdrive pedal that sounds very cool. I am not a guitarist, but it works great in his rig! __________________ Steve Smith - Unorignal, yet commonplace.

9th March 2003, 04:13 PM	#16
vodka gimli Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 403	Pedals I Have Known These are the pedals I have the most experience with: Fulltone Fulldrive II: A broader Tube Screamer tone with defeatable comp switch. Two channels for "more and more-er" options. Vox Valvetone: Sounds like an AC-15 in a pedal. Handy when you have a studio full of Fender amps. Discontinued, I think. Ibanez Mostortion: '80's mosfet overdrive that sounds like a Tube Screamer with 3-band EQ. I got mine 'cause Lee Roy Parnell uses one. (I teched for him for a year). Discontinued. Ibanez TS-10 Tube Screamer: 80's version...different flavor of the classic TS. Discontinued. Bixonix Expandora: a dip-switch equipped OD/DIST/FUZZ pedal. Always worth a try. I have the original version, there is a new one out. Barber Burn Unit: Fat Robben Ford-esque OD. Menatone Dirty Blonde: Best I've heard in front of a Fender - sounds like whatever amp you are using turned all the way up. Pretty amazing. Boss Blues Driver: Sounds great. Boss's version of the TS with a bit more low end intact. Klon Centaur: Sounds like your amp turned up with a slight mid-boost...a boutique TS.

9th March 2003, 05:49 PM	#17
adam_w Gear maniac Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: England Posts: 249	Jekyll & Hyde - 2 tube screamer circuits in a box

9th March 2003, 06:10 PM	#18
Tim L Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Lawn Guy Land Posts: 1,350	I have an "81" MXR distortion+ that I've had for 22 years and still have lotsa' love for... Man, I've had that pedal a long time! __________________ "Play ƒuckin' Loud!!!..." - Bob Dylan, May 17 1966

9th March 2003, 11:02 PM	#20
Meriphew Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle USA Posts: 2,175	If you're specifically looking for extreme, then check out: ZVEX - Fuzz Factory ZVEX - Fuzz Probe Zvex - Machine ZVEX - Wooly Mammoth Prescription Electronics - Experience Death By Audio - Soundsaw Menatone - King of the Britains __________________ www.myspace.com/meriphew

10th March 2003, 12:13 AM	#21
infiniteposse Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 294	I'll 2nd the call for the Visual Sounds "Jekyll & Hyde" pedal. It gives me the nice low key overdrive sounds and then can go all the way to crazed in another stomp. It's also built like a small brick which is also a plus. It's a good match for my Deluxe Reverb reissue. http://www.visualsound.net/JHpage.html I also like the Tubescreamer and Guvnor combo on my Blues Junior, but not with my Deluxe for some reason... Go figure.

10th March 2003, 03:08 AM	#22
Gone Fission Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Terra Incognita Posts: 490	The Zoom Ultrafuzz is supposed to be a poor man's Fuzz Factory. A little more generic sounding in more normal operation, but capable of some serious mayhem. Tragically, none of the local shops seem to carry them. Bear __________________ Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

10th March 2003, 03:37 AM	#23
Coldsnow Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 568	My favorites are the: Tube screamer Turbo Rat Tech21 XXL (great sounding pedal and the warp function is really cool).

10th March 2003, 06:13 AM	#24
Sir Bob Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 240	You are all wrong! The classic fuzz is still and will always be the Fuzz Face. Analogman, see www. analogman.com, makes an improved version called a Sun Face. Go check out his web page. Most of the pedals mentioned are gain pedals. Gain helps a guitarist with poor technique but is not really necessary in a recording environment. Also the more gain, the less tone. See Boogie amps. Stepping on a Super Hard On, Klon or a Tubescreamer is great in a live situation but these are basically gain. The Tubesceamer sounds like a buzzsaw when you add gain.

10th March 2003, 12:25 PM	#25
ojay Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London Posts: 80	DI'd into DDA AMR with mic gain full wack!

10th March 2003, 02:41 PM	#27
j.johnston Gear interested Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 10	A Rockman sustainer will give you a very controlled, fuzzy, 80's style distortion for not to much money. It can also get a smooth, polytone like, clean sound.

10th March 2003, 02:55 PM	#28
atticus Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,515	"Expandora". Nothing else. Buy four. Or five. __________________ David Seymour Mytek Digital Analog Audio Works 330-354-1576 www.mytekdigital.com http://analogaudioworks.com/

10th March 2003, 03:02 PM	#29
thedoublelife Gear interested Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: materialworld Posts: 4	my vote goes to bixonic expandora II

10th March 2003, 03:30 PM	#30
chap Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: CT Posts: 944	pedals As a session player/producer/road dog, I've been required to have most or all of these at various times. Here's the ones I've kept: Big Muff (the original one I bought in high school) MXR Distortion plus (script) Ibenez Tube Screamer Boss Super overdrive Mesa Boogie V Twin (awesome!) Matchless Hotbox (great sound, should have a bypass) Fulltone Overdrive ( someone say '60's?) Rockman (gave it away, no gegrets) Korg mini box (specific but cool '80s) I have more in the studio but it's early. the Fulltone has the most distortion of any box I've ever heard. Richard Thompson gets a great sound with the V Twin You can always chain these up to get your own sonic mess. good luck chap

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