is uaudio precision limiter cleaner than L1?

electric · 22nd April 2005, 08:05 PM

hi all,
got to quickly glue together a mastered vocal track w/mastered instrumental before i ship to record pressing. i had to put an L1 limiter on the master fader to tame about 1.0 db on the peaks. both tracks have already been mastered by a real mastering house and sound great. the L1 does not seem to be attenuating anything noticable as far as high/low end. however i am doing this remotely and do not have my studio references to listen on. i am doing this through sony mdr headphones and a yamaha stereo system.

is the precision limiter a little more transparent than the L1 even at very low limiting levels (1-1.5 db)? if it is i will quickly purchase and bounce to audio with the precision just for safety. my demo expired a while ago. i am not a mastering engr so i have always been fine w/ L1 but this is a special situation. (fixing a mix that had way to HOT vocals. i am regluing the instrumental w/ vocals for a more balanced mix) i dont want to pop for $200 unless its a good idea.

electric

jbuntz · 22nd April 2005, 08:53 PM

Ummm...why are you adding L1 to a master? You said this was already mastered right?

To answer your question, yes it's more transparent. At 1 dB, the difference probably isn't real big though.

electric · 22nd April 2005, 09:00 PM

when mixing acapella/instrumental to get same levels as main mix you peak a bit at time over 0. (probably due to fact that limiting in the mastering chaing was attenuating more with combination of the two) i still have most of the sonics of the chain. the L1 tames the momentary digital peaks. to be honest i cant tell the difference w/ the L1 and the original mix. however i am using very limited ref monitors.

i am just being anal. the song sounds great. probably wouldnt make a diff. (especially to anyone who is going to listen to the records). i go to the record pressing shop today. dropping our first single. wish me luck.

electric

BrianBrian · 23rd April 2005, 12:06 AM

To me the PLim sounds far superior to the L1. However, the differences really start to become more apparent at +3dB of limiting or so. It becomes most obvious in the bass region. At only 1dB of limiting, the differences are probably negligable.

sleepwalker · 23rd April 2005, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianBrian

To me the PLim sounds far superior to the L1. However, the differences really start to become more apparent at +3dB of limiting or so. It becomes most obvious in the bass region. At only 1dB of limiting, the differences are probably negligable.

I agree. I think the UA Precision Limiter is hands down better than the software L2 and L1 I've used. THat said, I doubt I'd be able to hear a difference between them with only 1db of limiting. I've been comparing the results when SMASHING the audio.

Max headroom · 23rd April 2005, 03:08 AM

I have tried most of them ....... plim is good for softer things like ballads or acoustic material ...... but NOBODY is talking about Timeworks Mastering comp .... aka limiter ...... IMHO it is by far transparent clear and veeeeryyy punchy ..... which you can not say about plim ( about punch ) .

Am I the only one that can hear that ?

Max

NathanEldred · 23rd April 2005, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max headroom

but NOBODY is talking about Timeworks Mastering comp .... aka limiter ...... IMHO it is by far transparent clear and veeeeryyy punchy ..... which you can not say about plim ( about punch ) .

Am I the only one that can hear that ?

Max

You're not the only one...it sounds far better than the L2 IMHO.

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22nd April 2005, 08:05 PM	#1
electric Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 1,008	is uaudio precision limiter cleaner than L1? hi all, got to quickly glue together a mastered vocal track w/mastered instrumental before i ship to record pressing. i had to put an L1 limiter on the master fader to tame about 1.0 db on the peaks. both tracks have already been mastered by a real mastering house and sound great. the L1 does not seem to be attenuating anything noticable as far as high/low end. however i am doing this remotely and do not have my studio references to listen on. i am doing this through sony mdr headphones and a yamaha stereo system. is the precision limiter a little more transparent than the L1 even at very low limiting levels (1-1.5 db)? if it is i will quickly purchase and bounce to audio with the precision just for safety. my demo expired a while ago. i am not a mastering engr so i have always been fine w/ L1 but this is a special situation. (fixing a mix that had way to HOT vocals. i am regluing the instrumental w/ vocals for a more balanced mix) i dont want to pop for $200 unless its a good idea. electric

23rd April 2005, 12:06 AM	#4
BrianBrian Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: CA Bay Area Posts: 200	To me the PLim sounds far superior to the L1. However, the differences really start to become more apparent at +3dB of limiting or so. It becomes most obvious in the bass region. At only 1dB of limiting, the differences are probably negligable. __________________ -Brian

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22nd April 2005, 08:53 PM	#2
jbuntz Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,650	Ummm...why are you adding L1 to a master? You said this was already mastered right? To answer your question, yes it's more transparent. At 1 dB, the difference probably isn't real big though.

22nd April 2005, 09:00 PM	#3
electric Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 1,008	when mixing acapella/instrumental to get same levels as main mix you peak a bit at time over 0. (probably due to fact that limiting in the mastering chaing was attenuating more with combination of the two) i still have most of the sonics of the chain. the L1 tames the momentary digital peaks. to be honest i cant tell the difference w/ the L1 and the original mix. however i am using very limited ref monitors. i am just being anal. the song sounds great. probably wouldnt make a diff. (especially to anyone who is going to listen to the records). i go to the record pressing shop today. dropping our first single. wish me luck. electric

23rd April 2005, 03:08 AM	#6
Max headroom Gear addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 319	I have tried most of them ....... plim is good for softer things like ballads or acoustic material ...... but NOBODY is talking about Timeworks Mastering comp .... aka limiter ...... IMHO it is by far transparent clear and veeeeryyy punchy ..... which you can not say about plim ( about punch ) . Am I the only one that can hear that ? Max