Advice on new nearfields wanted.

[tobymusic]

bump.

Anyone with a sub here?

[tINY]

You could use a stereo x-over and sum the LPF.



-tINY

[raal]

Originally Posted by tobymusic

I also thought about BM6A and maybe a BM10Sub to complement the system, but the BM10S seems to have only one input, so you have to split your stereo signal and mix it down to mono BEFORE the sub, if you want to get away with a single sub...

Sure, the BM15A might be nice, but I would welcome the smaller footprint of the BM6A and the S2A. Also I would welcome to be able to take the speakers to other studios when I´m working there, the Mackies were a bit too heavy for that.

i bought both the BM15As and 6As when i first heard 'em some years back. after using them for awhile and in different situations, i have come to prefer the 15As by far. they translate wonderfully IMO, and are easy on the ears. for carrying around from place to place the 15As are kinda big though.

I recently came across a Genelec 8040 and those were quite impressive, as well. Especially when I compared them to 1031A, even though the 1031A have a bigger woofer, the 8040 sounded more accurate to me.

recently heard 8040 (or 8050, can't remember exactly), and they did sound 'impressive' next to 1031As. after i brought my BM15As in for an A/B, IMHO the genelecs had nothing to do next to the 15As... and i mean NOTHING.

Anybody has an idea about that? Especially about the subwoofer setup. Could I get away with only one sub? How do you connect the sub?? toby

i only have one sub with the BM15As (dynaudio suggests two) - my room is smallish - one sub is plenty there. it's been awhile but as i recall both speakers feed the sub, the sub has a Xover - as i remember, two selectable freq. cutoff points -- think i have mine at 80Hz -- i'm far from the studio now so i can't say for sure, but yes, one sub works great in that room. hope this helps some.

[tobymusic]

Thanks for the comments.
Yeah, I already thought about the BM-15A, price would be about the same as a pair of BM6As and one BM10S sub...I dunno - portability and good full range sound don´t go together.

Toby

[warhead]

You can fully adjust the low and high end on those Mackies. Have you tried this?

War

[DrDeltaM]

I don't like the idea of sub + "satellites". I prefer a classic 2.0 for stereo

And while you're checking monitors, give PMC TB2S-A's a try, i love mine

[xstatic]

Another vote for the Dynaudio's here I started on BM6's and loved them. After a year I decided to move up to the BM15's due to the size of my control room. They were very similar, but the BM15's sounded a little smoother. The biggest difference is that at the back of the room (where my clients are normally sitting on the couch) the BM6's had a little more lowend and a little less top end than where I sit at the console. The Bm15's sound almost identical (with a little different imaging due to the throw) at the back of the room now as they do at the console. This way my clients can stay back there if they want and still have a good idea of how the mix is progressing.

[eligit]

Originally Posted by xstatic

Another vote for the Dynaudio's here I started on BM6's and loved them. After a year I decided to move up to the BM15's due to the size of my control room. They were very similar, but the BM15's sounded a little smoother. The biggest difference is that at the back of the room (where my clients are normally sitting on the couch) the BM6's had a little more lowend and a little less top end than where I sit at the console. The Bm15's sound almost identical (with a little different imaging due to the throw) at the back of the room now as they do at the console. This way my clients can stay back there if they want and still have a good idea of how the mix is progressing.

i know the BM6Ps are considered a little overrated around here but i really enjoy mine.

got em slightly used for a deal and the sound is clear, detailed, balanced, unhyped and all around very impressive for the size/cost.

yes, i agree w/ the above that because of the small size they have a smaller sweet/consistant spot in the room than larger speaks (bm15s and others). and for high volume/ hard rock mixing they simply may not have enough volume handling or huge low end. for the size the bass is very audible if not room shaking. add a sub or 2 and you are set. i do not use a sub.

for natural sound reproduction of jazz, classical, and less that hard/loud rock at low to moderate listening volumes/spls i really dig em and much prefer them to either of the comperable mackie speakers among others.

i have not directly compared my BM6ps to the BM6as.
thumbs up.

[bigbaby987]

i had the 824's and i know what you mean.. i picked up the genelec 1030's, and although i love them.. i'm going to pick up the new 8040's. to me they sound incredible. crisp hi's with a really nice round bass response. the 1030's drop off at 42 i think and the 8040's go to like 35 which is a huge difference. to me they are like the 824's but much, much, much, much better detail.

[Andreas G]

...if you're looking for a real precise monitorsystem... check out the ME-Geithain 904. (I never would recommend them for home HIFI...'cause it's no fun to hear every mixing-mistake when you just want to enjoy music) ...and don't forget that the most important factor is your roomacoustic!!!!!!!!! ...said that, I wanna tell you that I use a pair of RL 904 with a subwoofer in a small room ....why???? because I got a more flat bass-response, which is really hard to get in a small room! ( with a sub it was more easier and flexible than with only 2 speakers, which are most near a wall!) with a carefully sub-postioning I got a more flat freq-response with a only a -6db dip in the 80/100Hz space. without the sub the dip at 80/100Hz is -15db!! and at 60Hz and 120Hz + 6db!! so in summary: a lot of experimentations and comparisons (and measurements) should be done for a good listening situation. .....best andreas

[Brad Lunde]

Originally Posted by tobymusic

I´m in the market for a new pair of speakers. A stereo system for mixing pop music in a small/medium room.

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Toby

Toby:
The gennie 8040's are definitely a step up . The Gennie subs are nice too, just one does the trick. They use bass management, soemthing that enables you to hook up to the sub, the sub provides the crossover (and rolloff of lows) to the 8040. Not everyone believes in bass management, but most commercial speaker companies use it for it helps their smaller (woofer) speakers to play louder with the sub.

The other one to look at closely over in Europe is the ATC 20's with the ATC 1-15 sub. A step up from the Gennies, but more money. One sub is plenty. ATC does NOT use bass management, for they see rolling off information as a bad thing.

Brad