still using your subkick?
Old 30th August 2008
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still using your subkick?

....or perhaps your homemade franken subkick

after all this time, does it still do it for ya?

whose thrown in the towel on speaker miking due to sample replacement?

or do ya still love it? jazz or rocker?
Old 30th August 2008
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....or perhaps your homemade franken subkick

after all this time, does it still do it for ya?

whose thrown in the towel on speaker miking due to sample replacement?

or do ya still love it? jazz or rocker?
for me, simpler is always better. less mics, less phase probs, more tone.

i personally never have trouble getting sub frequencies out of kicks, so why add another mic to complicate matters. also, i prefer the bass to sit below the kick so i don't need kicks to have much in the 20-50hz area. thats bass territory for me, personally.
Old 30th August 2008
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Hell yes. I have a home made one that gets used on probably 90% of the records I make. Anything from rock to dance to jazz.

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Old 30th August 2008
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I stopped using mine.


I use a at4047 instead or a cad m179
Old 30th August 2008
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Got the Yamaha Subkick and use it often. I might not use it in the mix but often it is definitely helpful when used in small doses.
Old 30th August 2008
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Haven't used one for a long time but I just mixed an album where they used one and I used it in a mix together with d12 (inside I assume). That worked perfectly for kind of alternative rock stuff that needed a massive kick sound.

For my tracking I tend to use FOK far enough to capture the lower octave(sometimes with added close mic for kick inside or just outside the hole) of kick and toms.. I don't really care about the spill as it mostly works as a mono 'room' mic as well.. Whatever works.

Btw what do you guys do if you need to compress the sub kick with other kick mic(s)? Do you group them together or compress individually? I tend to find big phase problems if not grouping together.. If you compress the sub kick separately what compressor do you use to control the beast?
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It depends on what mic you place inside the kick but yes, mine gets used all the time along with an r121. I normally flip the phase on the external mic so they are used to subtract rather than add. I find the subkick to be very good in this regard since it's god not leakage and its frequency response is focused where I need it to be.

bottom line, mine still rules here
Old 30th August 2008
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me likes a speaker in front of a bassdrum ... gets real looooow thumbsup
Old 30th August 2008
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i've used the woofer of an e-voice 1202 monitor wedge in front of the kick. i place the wegde sideways on a skateboard and roll back and forth for phase with the inside mic (mostly a 421 or D12).
the great advantage of that method is that the 12" woofer won't pick up high frequencies, so there's hardly any cymbal and hihat spill on that mic, even if it's half a foot in front of the drum.

but i don't feel that the speaker gives me any low end that i wouldn't get with a mic like a 47, Royer R-121 or the likes. So mostly I just pack the kick in blankets and use one of these mics on the outside.

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Old 30th August 2008
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I trigger a sinewave from the kick....sounds tight
Old 30th August 2008
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Anyone notice the subkick shell has a very subtle and strange resonance/ring to it?
An NS-10 woofer wired seems to produce a purer bass tone to me.
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Bought one, used it, then sold it.

Missed it. Bought again. Used it again.

I don't tend to monitor with it (keep it muted when tracking) but my mix engineer always uses it when push comes to shove.

I know what you mean about getting all the subs from one mic but I tend to look at like I'm getting the, for lack of better terms, click and punch from the mic and any more bloom I need from the sub-kick.

R.
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got 2
might like a third
right now
bass cabinet and piano
are used more often than anything
else
the coles 4038
is the mike i love on kick



be well


- jack
Old 30th August 2008
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Still use it. Still love it.
Old 30th August 2008
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I use it for the cool dead quality more than for the low stuff it brings. Getting low end out of a well placed outside, or just inside the hole mic is easy enough.

best DD
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Got the Yamaha Subkick and use it often. I might not use it in the mix but often it is definitely helpful when used in small doses.
Yes, I still use mine in small doses.
Especially if I'm doing an act that doesn't requrie triggering.
Still worth the money for ease of use.
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All the time, loooove it.
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I stopped using mine.


I use a at4047 instead or a cad m179
May I ask why?
Old 21st October 2009
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i hear a trend that the bassdrums getting louder and louder ... thats how i like it, bass drum up
Old 21st October 2009
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I use one on floor tom all the time. I like it!
Old 21st October 2009
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Yes, I still use mine in small doses.
Especially if I'm doing an act that doesn't requrie triggering.
Still worth the money for ease of use.
+1thumbsup
Old 22nd October 2009
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use it still... yes there can be a resonance.. often the room your listening in.... check it on good phones.....
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