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GUITAR recordings -- HELP!

Hi! my band is recording these days.

For the guitars we are using:
MESA DUAL RECTIFIER
MARSHALL cabinet 1960
SM57 and/or SM 58
the guitar is a ESP LTD
pro-tools

we are searching a heavy-sharp guitar sound (in the style of SINERGY's last album guitars or something similar)...but we are having great problems.

Even if the sound is near what we'd like..it is DIRTY and quite crunchy...


Could someone give us some good advice? What are we missing?? What mic whould we use (57 or 58?) and how should we position it??

THANKS!!!!
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i've found that ESP's (ltd?) with EMG pickups just suck for recording.
Dont ask me WHY...but they do.
i've found Les Pauls and other guitars like SG's to sound MUCH better. Atleast something without EMG pickups..SEYMOUR DUNCAN's sound great.
with a dual rec...you HAVE to get the gain down at the highest a 5-7. with the dial at the 1 or 2 o clock positions. Rectifiers have that "fizz" , "fuzz" whatever you wanna call it that you gotta tame. And the presence seems to just mess up the whole thing. turn it down some...to suit your taste
its gonna sound like ass to your ears....but it translates well into the mic.
definitely get the cabinet OFF THE GROUND.
a chair. a sofa if you dont have anything else...
and a nice preamps helps...to get a bigger sound.
even a low-end STUDIO PROJECTS VTB-1's if anything.
try low gain...double tracked?
just suggestions...everyone has a different approach.
back to bed for me ;(
peace
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I gotta ask, is the sound coming from the cab and in the room what you desire?

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Could someone give us some good advice? What are we missing?? What mic whould we use (57 or 58?) and how should we position it??

THANKS!!!!
David
Get someone who knows his stuff into your place and let him show you.

And if its your first recording, don't expect it to sound stellar.

Greetings,
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good point....there really is no "best way" and the room definitely counts.
a great room or with the cab out in a parking lot. whatever sound you want.
to be honest...i'm nobody accredited to be giving advice.
there...i said it....i've been fakin' this whole time!!
D'oh!
back to you guys...
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pre-amp matters alot, what are you using?
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Warhead said it!


Sounding like ass before you record is not really something I practice.


You have to make sure that the sound emiting from the cab is what YOU WANT. Then play around with different mics/position. An SM57 should be plenty to get what you're looking for provided you're rig is sounding killer.


Of course the pre-amp should be decent quality but I'm not leaning towards it being the #1 key to your great sounding heavy guitar.

#1 source... player, equipment, performance, rig setup.
#2 room... so, how is it sounding in your recording room.
#3 recording... mics, positioning, phase, gear, engineer.

Hope this helps and maybe you have the first two elements...

Good luck!

Jason
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