Shopping new LCD monitors....dual 17" or 18" and extension cables?

cajonezzz · 25th February 2003, 09:57 PM

Hey all, I just dropped the order for a new dual 867 (actually an old one that'll boot into 9) and now I'm looking for monitors.
the Apple 17" studio looks cool but I'd like to be able to have more angle adjustment....so I'm leaning towards the NEC 1850 e LCD 18".

Found those for 584.00 ea., a couple hundred less than the Apple monitors.

Any other suggestions/brands appreciated.

(if the pic quality on the Apple is that much better I'm not opposed to going that way.....opinions?)

Also ,we need to get about 15 feet from the CPU (in gear closet) to the desk.
My understanding is the pic will suffer after that point but there are boxes that will allow (Geffen, for lots o $$) long cable runs.
we could get by with 15'. Anyone using extensions on a similar rig?
thanks.

Ckevperry · 25th February 2003, 10:25 PM

The Samsung Syncmaster 191T is an amazing buy. You can get it for $799 and it is 19 inches. The picture is as good or better than the Apple LCD's. Crystal clear and so brilliant I keep the brightness less than half way up. Also, the outside ege is very thin (less than an inch) so you can squeeze dual monitors really close together for a neat effect.

Oh and they look really cool too.

cajonezzz · 25th February 2003, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ckevperry
The Samsung Syncmaster 191T is an amazing buy. You can get it for $799 and it is 19 inches. The picture is as good or better than the Apple LCD's. Crystal clear and so brilliant I keep the brightness less than half way up. Also, the outside ege is very thin (less than an inch) so you can squeeze dual monitors really close together for a neat effect.

Oh and they look really cool too.

Thanks, do you use long cables by any chance? I assume you have to convert to vga (your on a mac?)
craig

Ckevperry · 26th February 2003, 12:24 AM

No long cables....Another great feature it has VGA and DVI inputs. I have two computers connected to it and can switch between the two with the push of one button.

Rab · 26th February 2003, 12:32 AM

I've successfully run 10m VGA extensions - just make sure you use good quality video cable (VDC in the UK)... I've had trouble with cheaper "computer store" no-name stuff. Dr. Bott do a cheap DVI->VGA adaptor for the second port on your G4 (an ADC->VGA one comes with it).

If you're connecting digitally, Dr. Bott also do ADC extensions for the Apple displays. Never tried long runs with DVI. The obvious general rule is to keep the cables as short as possible. I'm guessing you'll also need extensions for your keyboard & mouse - just use active USB extenders (again, fine upto around 10m) or string a powered hub between two passive cables.

ghoost · 26th February 2003, 04:11 AM

cajonezzz ...

Just went through this .. upgrade and monitor. Decided to get the Viewsonic VX900, also $799. Spending as many hours as I do in front of the damn thing I was sold by the 500:1 contrast ratio

Apple's is 350:1 and about the max on any other screen. I figured any thing I could do to avoid the eyeburn basketball effect was worth a shot. While not quite as sleek as the Samsung (which is pretty cool), it's got speakers that are always good for that crappy little sound. A & D of coarse .. tight like drum .. and it's got a tv tuner option that I might get .. so I can spend ALL my waking hours in front of it .. grggt

check it out ...
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/lcd_vx900.htm

pounce · 26th February 2003, 05:06 AM

i just got two hp 18.1 inch lcd displays. they look great, have every kind of input, and here is the main rub...they have the smallest bezel of any monitors i shopped. i use two of them pushed together...the usual mix window and arrange window config. anyhow, the two bezels together are about the size of any one regular bezel, so it really helps ensure that the picture between the two has the least interruption. as close to one big ass lcd as you can get. around 600 each.

BrianT · 26th February 2003, 06:53 AM

I run 4 of the NEC 18". Most of the very newest generation look very good. The main thing, IMO, is to make sure that you get both VGA and DVI inputs for the flexibility. DVI looks slightly cleaner ,but VGA can run 50'+ with good cables and still lok great.

Regards,
Brian T

cajonezzz · 26th February 2003, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pounce
i just got two hp 18.1 inch lcd displays. they look great, have every kind of input, and here is the main rub...they have the smallest bezel of any monitors i shopped. i use two of them pushed together...the usual mix window and arrange window config. anyhow, the two bezels together are about the size of any one regular bezel, so it really helps ensure that the picture between the two has the least interruption. as close to one big ass lcd as you can get. around 600 each.

Thanks for the info. do you have a model number? remember what you payed?

cajonezzz · 26th February 2003, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrianT
I run 4 of the NEC 18". Most of the very newest generation look very good. The main thing, IMO, is to make sure that you get both VGA and DVI inputs for the flexibility. DVI looks slightly cleaner ,but VGA can run 50'+ with good cables and still lok great.

Regards,
Brian T

Brian, are your monitors the 1850 e's? Are you using the DVI ins or converting to vga?

clipgod · 26th February 2003, 05:03 PM

I am using a Dr.Bott ADC extender and it works fine.

Check http://www.drbott.com/

buickwilson · 26th February 2003, 11:10 PM

Craig,

I have a NEC 1850e (black) and a svga 10' or 12' extension cable unused. I live in escondido if you're interested email me

nwilson@hns.com

Tubelover · 26th February 2003, 11:17 PM

I'm delighted with my new Apple 20" cinema display at 1680 X 1050.

jeronimo · 27th February 2003, 01:33 PM

Can you have mix & edit windows opened on the Apple 20"?

cajonezzz · 8th March 2003, 04:11 AM

does anyone know if the Apple monitors are VESA compliant.....for mounting on arms. 4 hole pattern on back? I haven't been able to find any ino on the apple site. Maybe someone could look a the back of theirs?

I'm still undecided as to what to buy ..the Nec seems to be the value at 529.oo a piece for the 1855nx black. But not having seen them in person.
Can someone please push me over the edge on this?
thanks

efex · 12th March 2003, 03:09 AM

I have a new pair of acer 722's..with rebate they were like $540.00 Canadian! IE about $350.00 each. I was using a pair of apple 15's. The acers are just fine, i am very pleased; i would have liked a fancier pair but I got both of these for less than the price of any single monitor mentioned about. Hard to argu with that for me!

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25th February 2003, 09:57 PM	#1
cajonezzz Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Carlsbad Ca. Posts: 1,723	Shopping new LCD monitors....dual 17" or 18" and extension cables? Hey all, I just dropped the order for a new dual 867 (actually an old one that'll boot into 9) and now I'm looking for monitors. the Apple 17" studio looks cool but I'd like to be able to have more angle adjustment....so I'm leaning towards the NEC 1850 e LCD 18". Found those for 584.00 ea., a couple hundred less than the Apple monitors. Any other suggestions/brands appreciated. (if the pic quality on the Apple is that much better I'm not opposed to going that way.....opinions?) Also ,we need to get about 15 feet from the CPU (in gear closet) to the desk. My understanding is the pic will suffer after that point but there are boxes that will allow (Geffen, for lots o $$) long cable runs. we could get by with 15'. Anyone using extensions on a similar rig? thanks. __________________ Craig Zarkos http://www.myspace.com/cajonezzz http://tybridroom.com/ z-orama TourstopLIVE! Calavera Proving Grounds (record & ride!) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Watch your thoughts, for they become words. Watch your words, for they become actions. Watch your actions, for they become habits. Watch your habits, for they become character. Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny.

25th February 2003, 10:25 PM	#2
Ckevperry Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Nashville Posts: 402	The Samsung Syncmaster 191T is an amazing buy. You can get it for $799 and it is 19 inches. The picture is as good or better than the Apple LCD's. Crystal clear and so brilliant I keep the brightness less than half way up. Also, the outside ege is very thin (less than an inch) so you can squeeze dual monitors really close together for a neat effect. Oh and they look really cool too. __________________ Kevin Perry Nashville, TN

26th February 2003, 12:24 AM	#4
Ckevperry Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Nashville Posts: 402	No long cables....Another great feature it has VGA and DVI inputs. I have two computers connected to it and can switch between the two with the push of one button. __________________ Kevin Perry Nashville, TN

26th February 2003, 12:32 AM	#5
Rab Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London Posts: 537	I've successfully run 10m VGA extensions - just make sure you use good quality video cable (VDC in the UK)... I've had trouble with cheaper "computer store" no-name stuff. Dr. Bott do a cheap DVI->VGA adaptor for the second port on your G4 (an ADC->VGA one comes with it). If you're connecting digitally, Dr. Bott also do ADC extensions for the Apple displays. Never tried long runs with DVI. The obvious general rule is to keep the cables as short as possible. I'm guessing you'll also need extensions for your keyboard & mouse - just use active USB extenders (again, fine upto around 10m) or string a powered hub between two passive cables. __________________ I don't live for gear.

26th February 2003, 04:11 AM	#6
ghoost Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Phila Posts: 286	cajonezzz ... Just went through this .. upgrade and monitor. Decided to get the Viewsonic VX900, also $799. Spending as many hours as I do in front of the damn thing I was sold by the 500:1 contrast ratio Apple's is 350:1 and about the max on any other screen. I figured any thing I could do to avoid the eyeburn basketball effect was worth a shot. While not quite as sleek as the Samsung (which is pretty cool), it's got speakers that are always good for that crappy little sound. A & D of coarse .. tight like drum .. and it's got a tv tuner option that I might get .. so I can spend ALL my waking hours in front of it .. grggt check it out ... http://www.viewsonic.com/products/lcd_vx900.htm __________________ Kyle Ober ------------------------------------------------------- If You Can't Hear It ... Don't Go Near It ...

26th February 2003, 05:06 AM	#7
pounce Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: columbus, ohio Posts: 804	i just got two hp 18.1 inch lcd displays. they look great, have every kind of input, and here is the main rub...they have the smallest bezel of any monitors i shopped. i use two of them pushed together...the usual mix window and arrange window config. anyhow, the two bezels together are about the size of any one regular bezel, so it really helps ensure that the picture between the two has the least interruption. as close to one big ass lcd as you can get. around 600 each. __________________ cheers paul paper street audio company www.paperstreetaudio.com

26th February 2003, 06:53 AM	#8
BrianT Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nashville Posts: 1,666	I run 4 of the NEC 18". Most of the very newest generation look very good. The main thing, IMO, is to make sure that you get both VGA and DVI inputs for the flexibility. DVI looks slightly cleaner ,but VGA can run 50'+ with good cables and still lok great. Regards, Brian T

26th February 2003, 05:03 PM	#11
clipgod Gear nut Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cologne Posts: 111	I am using a Dr.Bott ADC extender and it works fine. Check http://www.drbott.com/

26th February 2003, 11:10 PM	#12
buickwilson Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 88	Craig, I have a NEC 1850e (black) and a svga 10' or 12' extension cable unused. I live in escondido if you're interested email me nwilson@hns.com

26th February 2003, 11:17 PM	#13
Tubelover Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: So Cal Posts: 169	I'm delighted with my new Apple 20" cinema display at 1680 X 1050.

27th February 2003, 01:33 PM	#14
jeronimo Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salvador, BA - Brazil Posts: 2,536	Can you have mix & edit windows opened on the Apple 20"? __________________ Think Diferente! www.verticeestudio.com http://www.myspace.com/jelmet

8th March 2003, 04:11 AM	#15
cajonezzz Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Carlsbad Ca. Posts: 1,723	does anyone know if the Apple monitors are VESA compliant.....for mounting on arms. 4 hole pattern on back? I haven't been able to find any ino on the apple site. Maybe someone could look a the back of theirs? I'm still undecided as to what to buy ..the Nec seems to be the value at 529.oo a piece for the 1855nx black. But not having seen them in person. Can someone please push me over the edge on this? thanks __________________ Craig Zarkos http://www.myspace.com/cajonezzz http://tybridroom.com/ z-orama TourstopLIVE! Calavera Proving Grounds (record & ride!) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Watch your thoughts, for they become words. Watch your words, for they become actions. Watch your actions, for they become habits. Watch your habits, for they become character. Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny.

12th March 2003, 03:09 AM	#16
efex Gear interested Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 19	I have a new pair of acer 722's..with rebate they were like $540.00 Canadian! IE about $350.00 each. I was using a pair of apple 15's. The acers are just fine, i am very pleased; i would have liked a fancier pair but I got both of these for less than the price of any single monitor mentioned about. Hard to argu with that for me! __________________ Doug B

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