Drum set placement help. Room pic included

Digamma · 17th March 2005, 12:07 AM

Hi,
Before trying out diferent places within the room for recording the drumset which would take a very long time i was wondering if anyone of you could point out some no brainers or tips. This is a semi-treated rehearsal room.
I'll be recording a loud drummer, rock, and quite a few mics on the set, and will be going for quite a close up sound. No room mics.

The pic is attatched below. The two grey boxes are bass traps, the roof is angled, and the front wall is angled twice. Check out the center pic for better perception.
Its about 8mx4m. The rectangle line is where the drums are now. Should I move them?

Cheers

Drumsound · 17th March 2005, 06:51 AM

You might think about moving the drums toward the center of the room and then also using some blankets on stands if you want things really dead. Getting off the wall will also help with early reflections. Just a guess though. How tall is the ceiling at is lowest and highest?

Have fun!

Digamma · 17th March 2005, 05:03 PM

Hi drumsound,

Yeah the drums are quite close to the wall at the moment. The room is about 2m at the lowest and 3m(maybe just slightly less) at the highest, so as you see it isn't great for recording. But the drums sound good in the room, and its a nice kit.
Any ideas?
Cheers

Froombosch · 17th March 2005, 05:25 PM

With this room you will get problems with its shape 8x4 = trouble at around 85 /170 Hz.

If another room is not possible, I would put the drums more central on a riser (0,2 m).

joeq · 17th March 2005, 05:35 PM

trying out different places in the room is not that hard if you narrow it down to one drum.

I usually just move about with the snare drum and the seat. Sometimes I will use the kick drum instead, depending on the focus of the song. Find the sweet spot for the snare and build the kit around it - usually works for me.

Digamma · 17th March 2005, 06:03 PM

Thanks for the info,

Yup unfortunately there is no better room available to me at the moment. The frequency problem you mention 85/170hz. What type of prblems will this cause? Only thing i can think of is the lower toms(Which is actually what i struggled to get right the last time i recordedin this room) , the kick will be close mic'd.

Im looking to get less cymbal leak., but i guess thats every1's problem. And in this small room + loud drummer, probably impossible.

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17th March 2005, 12:07 AM	#1
Digamma Gear nut Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 78	Drum set placement help. Room pic included Hi, Before trying out diferent places within the room for recording the drumset which would take a very long time i was wondering if anyone of you could point out some no brainers or tips. This is a semi-treated rehearsal room. I'll be recording a loud drummer, rock, and quite a few mics on the set, and will be going for quite a close up sound. No room mics. The pic is attatched below. The two grey boxes are bass traps, the roof is angled, and the front wall is angled twice. Check out the center pic for better perception. Its about 8mx4m. The rectangle line is where the drums are now. Should I move them? Cheers Attached Thumbnails

17th March 2005, 06:51 AM	#2
Drumsound Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bloomington Il Posts: 3,600	You might think about moving the drums toward the center of the room and then also using some blankets on stands if you want things really dead. Getting off the wall will also help with early reflections. Just a guess though. How tall is the ceiling at is lowest and highest? Have fun! __________________ Tony Oxide Lounge Recording See the Oxide Lounge! WWJMD? Come see me on the Tape Op boards! "If I have to flip flop more than three times in an A/B test to figure out what the difference is, I lose interest in that difference.'--Tchad Blake

17th March 2005, 05:25 PM	#4
Froombosch Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Froombosch Posts: 383	With this room you will get problems with its shape 8x4 = trouble at around 85 /170 Hz. If another room is not possible, I would put the drums more central on a riser (0,2 m). __________________ Harrie Munnik Studio Froombosch on My Space

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17th March 2005, 05:03 PM	#3
Digamma Gear nut Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 78	Hi drumsound, Yeah the drums are quite close to the wall at the moment. The room is about 2m at the lowest and 3m(maybe just slightly less) at the highest, so as you see it isn't great for recording. But the drums sound good in the room, and its a nice kit. Any ideas? Cheers

17th March 2005, 05:35 PM	#5
joeq Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York Posts: 3,907	trying out different places in the room is not that hard if you narrow it down to one drum. I usually just move about with the snare drum and the seat. Sometimes I will use the kick drum instead, depending on the focus of the song. Find the sweet spot for the snare and build the kit around it - usually works for me.

17th March 2005, 06:03 PM	#6
Digamma Gear nut Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 78	Thanks for the info, Yup unfortunately there is no better room available to me at the moment. The frequency problem you mention 85/170hz. What type of prblems will this cause? Only thing i can think of is the lower toms(Which is actually what i struggled to get right the last time i recordedin this room) , the kick will be close mic'd. Im looking to get less cymbal leak., but i guess thats every1's problem. And in this small room + loud drummer, probably impossible.