ADAM ANF-10 vs. ADAM P11A? And also power amp opinions on the ANF-10's?

[edIT]

I'm looking into a paif of ANF-10's or P 11A's. The ANF-10 just blows my mind because it is a great sounding pair of monitors for under $700!?! So this is a two part question. If I do go with the ANF-10, which poweramp do you recommend. This is for my home studio, and the room is farily small. I have used powered monitors all my life (Gene 1031A's, Mackie HR824, and the list gets lower). So I really don't have any experience w/ power amps, the quality of them, which ones make a big deifference etc... I think all the Bryston stuff is out of my league. But I have heard some people say good things about the Hafler's. Any Opinions? If I do go Hafler, should I go with the 1500 or the 3000? Second part of the question: The ADAM P11A's are basically a similar sized monitor to the ANF10's but self powered and I think they have an option to fidget w/ the highs and lo's etc..... Though I haven't heard both models side to side, I have heard both and and both sound great. Why are the P11A's so much more, is it just because they are self powered and have eq finetuning options? Or are they essentially the same monitors w/ little difference that is not necessarily worth spending up the extra 500-700 for? Anyone?

[Bryce]

Originally Posted by edIT

The ADAM P11A's are basically a similar sized monitor to the ANF10's but self powered and I think they have an option to fidget w/ the highs and lo's etc..... Though I haven't heard both models side to side, I have heard both and and both sound great. Why are the P11A's so much more, is it just because they are self powered and have eq finetuning options? Or are they essentially the same monitors w/ little difference that is not necessarily worth spending up the extra 500-700 for?

• Although the tweeters are the same size, the P11A's tweeters have more magnets, and can take more SPL; plus, they have a wider sweet spot.

• The P11As use better quality woofers, and have better bass response.

• The P11As cabinets are a bit deeper.

• As you observed, the P11As have active electronics - four 100W amplifers (two per speaker) per pair as well as input gain, HF level, and hi/lo EQ controls.

Also, I don't think the ANFs are made out of the same kind of wood as the P11As (but I'd have to check on that to be sure).

Hope that helps...

dB
ADAM Audio USA

[edIT]

Thank you. extremely informative. Gonna have to do another side by side shoot out at RSPE.

[edIT]

Ok now this brings me back to the first part of my question....... If I chose the ANF-10's which poweramp do you recommend. I have a pretty small home studio. Nothing fancy size-wise.

[Bryce]

Originally Posted by edIT

Ok now this brings me back to the first part of my question....... If I chose the ANF-10's which poweramp do you recommend. I have a pretty small home studio. Nothing fancy size-wise.

No particular recommendation, brand-wise. As far as power, 75W per side should do the job.

dB
ADAM Audio USA

[j@ck]

Hi
I am also interested in the ANF10. Could someone let me know where I can hear it in NYC?
Thank you.

[Buddhaman]

I have the anf's and I rickey!!!!

I'm using a Carver PM-1.5t and they still sound great...the perect compliment to my Dynaudio M2's

Buddhaman

[Bryce]

Originally Posted by j@ck

Hi
I am also interested in the ANF10. Could someone let me know where I can hear it in NYC?

I don't have any dealers in Manhattan right now. I believe the closest dealer to you that has a pair on display is Alto Music in Middletown.

Pretty much all of the ADAM dealers in the US will let you buy a set and return them if they don't work for you, though...then you can check them out in your own space at your leisure.

dB
ADAM Audio USA

[aapee]

Hi ediT!

I have had P11A's for half a year now and I am very pleased with them. Save some more and get them!

Respect,

AaPee

[explorer]

Hi all - first post here so be kind!

I'm in a similar position to edIT and am considering getting some ANF10's quite seriously. I currently have a pair of HR824's and want to keep hold of these for the moment (I work in dance music and they're sort of a 'standard' that I'm used to). Anyway, I want to have something to compliment them and feel a smaller cone (6") would give me the mid range details I need, also the tweeter on the Adams should compliment the harsh highs on the Wackies...

Anyways, the only problem is that I don't have the budget to get a new amp for them right now - I do have an old Samson Servo 170: will that do the job for the moment? Or should I just not bother and wait until I can afford a whole new setup?

Thanks!

[Bryce]

Originally Posted by explorer

I do have an old Samson Servo 170: will that do the job for the moment?

That should work okay - 75W per side, right? More would be better, but that will do the job, I believe...

I have never heard one, so I can't comment on the sound.

dB
ADAM Audio USA

[Buddhaman]

NYC people can call Craig at Calistro Music---he's an adam dealer and the guy I got my ANF-10's from.

He's in CT (New Haven )

Buddhaman

[siegfried]

What about this small Adams vs. Tapco S8? Thanks.

[TOTAL]

Originally Posted by Bryce

No particular recommendation, brand-wise. As far as power, 75W per side should do the job.

dB
ADAM Audio USA

Is this because ANF-10 are so versatile, or that is it of no importance?

I'm asking because So far I have read amp should be a class higher than speakers. But if it is not necessary w/ANF10 - it'll be good to know.

[drummerboy1533]

I have the ANF-10's.They sound fine in my small BUT TREATED room.(don't skimp here!)Pretty flat response too. It's recommended to power your speakers at TWICE their RMS power rating(Amp should output twice the monitors RMS) for max headroom.Your speakers will get a nice waveform(no clipping) and your amp will run easier.Monitor at about 80 db and mabe throw a small sub with them.Bryston,Adcom,Crown amps-whatever is proven, will deliver a nice signal.

[nickolo]

Hi,i am also after a pair of monitors to compliment ns10 etc..Anyway,i have read plus heard great stuff about the anf10s but have not heard them yet.They are not as common as the A7s etc..at dealers..I am also considering trying out a pair of passive PMC TB 2s which can be had for a good price if 2nd hand etc..
On the amp front i am hoping my Arcam hi fi intergrated will be ok for some time but have been looking at second hand Quads 405 which are decent and i would think a good choice at these budgets..Anyone got any thoughts on these with the Adams.Another thing i like is a simple modification can really improve them,so i have heard!!??

[Bryce]

Originally Posted by TOTAL

Is this because ANF-10 are so versatile, or that is it of no importance?

Neither, actually...it's because I don't have much experience with ANFs and different amps, so I'm not really in a position to give any recommendation.

dB

[TOTAL]

What about such general parameters as frequency response of the amplifier?

I have just discovered in the description of an amp that its freq response is up to 20kHz.

Adam ANF-10 have it up to 35kHz.

Logically, this amp will not pass as wide spectrum as could be reproduced by the speakers. So to take advantage of ANFs, regardless of brand or power, freq response of minimum 35kHz must be taken into consideration.

Is this correct reasoning?

[TOTAL]

And some more things:

1.
Alesis RA150 has 2x90W/4Ohm

Alesis RA-300 Studio-amplifier, 2x 150 Watt/4 Ohm

the former has more than 75W stated by Bryce as minimum. Isn't this extrajuice offered by RA300 overkill?


2.
In the manual of the RA150 it says it is possible to connect headphones to the amp. But I have had a close look and see no socket. RA users, is it that headphones can be used only instead of Monitors (needs replugging)?



3.
for the future

A subwoofer - it will need a dedicated amp, won't it?


4.
cable - balanced or unbalanced? Any hints appreciated, because I am completely new to this.

I have audiophile 2496 audiocard, if it matters.

[benoïde]

Originally Posted by siegfried

What about this small Adams vs. Tapco S8? Thanks.

A couple years ago, I worked for a dance project and the choreographer had the Tapcos in his bedroom. He liked those since they made his music sound kinda punchy, but I thought they weren't accurate and the mixes didn't translate well, and the "punch" sounded like a bad compressor on the main outputs. The mixes I did on the ANF at my small studio at the time translated way better.

I wouldn't say I couldn't mix on the Tapcos if I had to (I did it at that time), but the Adams are so much easier to work with, it's really a no brainer. They don't go as low as the Tapcos but are more accurate in the bass they deliver.

[herrhafen]

Hi! I'm also interested on the ANF10 speakers. I'm thinking about the amps to use with them, and I wonder if these are good choices:
- ART Sla-1
- Samson Servo 201a

When I tried them, they were connected to a much cheaper amplifier and I liked them anyway!