biggest "pet peeve" in the studio - Page 2

pootkao · 11th August 2008, 01:43 AM

a) Vocalists who sing with their hands in their pockets.

b) People talking while I'm editing/comping.

MixShmix · 11th August 2008, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by pootkao

People talking while I'm editing/comping.

And what's worse is people whispering while I'm mixing... and wearing cologne!

Ricey · 11th August 2008, 02:03 AM

- someone walking into the control room and immediately asking, "What are you doing?"

Bryan Talbot · 11th August 2008, 02:04 AM

The Grand Prize Winner

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Originally Posted by tracktension

QUIT POINTING AT THE TRANSIENTS AND TOUCHING THE MONITOR SCREENS !!!!!!

I HATE THAT !!!!

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Originally Posted by CKK

Oooohhh yes, that gets to me too. I just hate when they put their little urin-yellow fingers on my screen.

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Originally Posted by Classic

Touching my computer monitors

Not cool!!

lynyrd · 11th August 2008, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by maxpidge

why are so many guitar players to LAZY to cut the ends of there strings off!!! it's bad enough you have to remind them to change there strings...

Thats annoying but I gotta tell you I really REALLY hate it when guitarists clip their strings (ESPECIALLY the ball ends when they have Floyd Rose tremelos on their guitars) and just leave them on the floor. And they ALL do that, whats next, gonna use the drapes to wipe your a**?
Yumdrum was right, this belongs in the moan zone, I'm gettin' outta hand here...

Makinithappen · 11th August 2008, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Eganmedia

Also- the same ones who wind coiled headphone cords as tightly as possible around the headphones in an attempt to help tidy.

I think this is the only thing I've ever bitched out an intern about. God that gets on my nerves.

AllAboutTone · 11th August 2008, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bitman

Lucky I let ya drink in the tracking room anyway.

Damn i might have to close the doors if i did not let my artist drink beer and energy drinks in the tracking room and some places in the control room, but no where around gear, most of them can't play until they have had 6 or more, they suck sober, honest.

confooshus · 11th August 2008, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bitman

Here we go.

The wonder kids are just about set up. Then the drummer goes "Can I have some water or something?" and before I can answer, his bud goes "Yea me too"

What!? I'm gonna record your precious demo, take your money and you want refreshments!?

Bring your own don't ya'll think?

Lucky I let ya drink in the tracking room anyway.

It's pretty standard for a studio to at least have bottled water stocked. If I was paying to record at a commercial studio, and they didn't have bottled water, I'd actually be kind of pissed.

bitman · 11th August 2008, 03:32 AM

I've repented of my bad attitude and will begin stocking bottled water.

Now how to keep my dear wife out of the studio water. She has a real thing for it.

Makinithappen · 11th August 2008, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by confooshus

It's pretty standard for a studio to at least have bottled water stocked. If I was paying to record at a commercial studio, and they didn't have bottled water, I'd actually be kind of pissed.

Thats kinda what I thought. (actually bottled water at our place is in a vending machine for a buck) but we have honey, tons of different teas, 2 different cough drops and a water filter on the kitchen tap for free. If we gave bottled waters out for free, rappers and their posses/ band guys/ girlfriends/, would put us out of business, I'm sure.

yumdrum · 11th August 2008, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by themaidsroom

the person(s) who have nothing to do with the session who are there

YES!!!!+1

Jonboy79 · 11th August 2008, 06:00 AM

My two biggest pet peeves. Bands that bring like 5 friends over and none of them can keep their mouths shut, or they insist on putting their 2 cents into the process. The other are bands that insist on sitting in on the mixing session but then start barking out orders literally 30 seconds into the process. I've actually gotten to the point where, if a band shows up with a bunch of extra useless people I'll ask them nicely to take their friends back home and I tell every band that stays for the mixing session to not ask for anything specific until I ask them a specific question. Most bands seem to comprehend, although some just don't get it. It's not that I don't want the bands input into the process, I just hate hearing things like "hey can you make my vocals louder" or " can you turn the bass up" when I haven't even gotten the basic mix down yet, or have gotten to that part of the mix.

andychamp · 11th August 2008, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by johnbohn

(...)Should I buy the music production toolkit to make it sound better?"

Yeah, go ahead and do that.
And feel free to come back in two years, when I'll charge you triple and you'll know from experience it's OK for me to do so

SomeAudioGuy · 11th August 2008, 07:53 AM

I'll join you all on the bad studio/control room etiquette.

It KILLS me when I record a VO or vocalist, and we get levels set for something really quiet, then in between takes the talent feels they need to talk at us like they're trying to scream through the booth's window.

moroccog · 11th August 2008, 08:40 AM

In no particular order...

1-It bothers me when an artist starts dancing or bouncing around while recording. Usually when I point out that they shouldn't, they will insist that it inspires their performance.

2-I can't stand when a client is what I call an "effect-*****". They want "juice" on every track. Everything is more flanger, delay, chorus, reverb, etc.

3-And of course I can't stand the volume wars where every person on the track wants their part louder.

BCains · 11th August 2008, 09:07 AM

1. Clients who bring "tag alongs" - people who are not involved in the project
i.e wife & kids - in this situation it was the managers whole family!

2. Clients who don't bring all the gear required i.e pedals, guitars!
i.e a band that forgot to pick up the bassists guitar, he than had to
catch a bus back home to get it.

3. The usual "you can fix that in the mix" and the "you can copy and paste that"

Karloff70 · 11th August 2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sigma

clients picking their noses then turning the knobs

LOL....snotty Q......

Also like the 'What are you doing?' lol...pickin' my nose?

From own experience very annoying is the constant threat of the pointless 'How's it going?'. Always to be countered with 'Yeah, good, bit by bit....' Heinuosly tedious......Makes you want to go ' Yeah, F***ing great, but no, I haven't edited your mess into music quite yet...'.....and DO shut up chit-chatting while I'm doing it or get the f*** out!

**Jules** · 11th August 2008, 10:57 AM

Bands that bring along their bitter and twisted live sound engineer that has amongst the many chips on their shoulder..

1) resentment that they aren't sitting where you are, behind the console making a bands album / single / demo

2) resentment that they aren't going to be getting their hands on the studio gear that they jealously scan their eyes across - because they weren't hired as the the engineer producer..

The 'unannounced live person studio guest' event can be a real drag. Newbie bands that bring them along screw up the diplomacy and fail to warn studio staff that they are bringing someone 'extra 'with them. So it comes as a shock (and is regarded as a shabby display of no confidence from the band) Big unhappy mess. Until you have a quite word with the band and get them to not bring the live sound person with them for the rest of the session

(suggest that its best to test out the live sound person's wannabe producer studio skills on their OWN session - some other time)

In order to involve the live sound person - bands could sort out introductions prior to the sessions, meet the studio team at pre production, encourage phone calls between them before the session - all that could work out fine.... but to bring a 'tag along person' who thinks they are going to jump in cold and start directing the session.. ain't cool

rrraaalllfff · 11th August 2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricey

- someone walking into the control room and immediately asking, "What are you doing?"

Hahaha! Holy crap! I'd stand the hell up and confront them verbally with all that is wrong with that attitude and depending if he's understanding or not, i'd threaten to hurt him if that crap repeats itself. "now shut up, sit down, and listen to the damn mix... you'll love it, you insolent ape"

rrraaalllfff · 11th August 2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jules

Bands that bring along their bitter and twisted live sound engineer that has amongst the many chips on their shoulder..

1) resentment that they aren't sitting where you are, behind the console making a bands album / single / demo

2) resentment that they aren't going to be getting their hands on the studio gear that they jealously scan their eyes across - because they weren't hired as the the engineer producer..

The 'unannounced live person studio guest' event can be a real drag. Newbie bands that bring them along screw up the diplomacy and fail to warn studio staff that they are bringing someone 'extra 'with them. So it comes as a shock (and is regarded as a shabby display of no confidence from the band) Big unhappy mess. Until you have a quite word with the band and get them to not bring the live sound person with them for the rest of the session

(suggest that its best to test out the live sound person's wannabe producer studio skills on their OWN session - some other time)

In order to involve the live sound person - bands could sort out introductions prior to the sessions, meet the studio team at pre production, encourage phone calls between them before the session - all that could work out fine.... but to bring a 'tag along person' who thinks they are going to jump in cold and start directing the session.. ain't cool

Right. That ain't cool at all... the EXACT thing happened to me with the live sound guy. I was kind enough to let it slide and ignored him for the first half hour, but when he asked me about putting gates on everything drum related (while getting sounds for tracking) I called the band to the kitchen and said to them there's no record being made here today until we are alone with the band members and band members alone. They'd also brought friends and the girlfriends of those friends... "but he owns the drums" is what the drummer said about his friend. After the deserved out-cussings it worked out great in the end. They apologized for all that crap and i ended up producing their record. Lotsa headaches but we all learned what to do/allow, and what not to for later sessions.

Also, I don't let the band be present at mixes anymore. Too much time wasted with useless questions that have no bearing on the mix at hand. Telling them to "please shut up while I mix your record" yielded mixed results, so, having them absent was the solution. It's been working.

otobianki74 · 11th August 2008, 07:44 PM

clients who take off their shoes...

oto

illiummusic · 11th August 2008, 07:55 PM

The worst for me is the drinks on gear. Man I f*****g hate that.
I always have signs up for that. Even in my rehearsal space but
no one ever seems to pay attention. Sure enough I go to my rehearsal
space after my drummer has rehearsed with another band he is in
and low & behold there's a water ring on my amp! Make me want
to punch someone in their damn head for being so disrespectful.

msquared · 11th August 2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jules

Bands that bring along their bitter and twisted live sound engineer that has amongst the many chips on their shoulder..

1) resentment that they aren't sitting where you are, behind the console making a bands album / single / demo

2) resentment that they aren't going to be getting their hands on the studio gear that they jealously scan their eyes across - because they weren't hired as the the engineer producer..

This one wins it for me. I can deal with the other stuff to a degree but the bitter live sound engineer thing is just outrageous.

neilio · 11th August 2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by yumdrum

Why do I get the feeling that this thread belongs in the "Moan Zone"?

But now that I chimed in, because we work in close quarters here in my cave, I would have to say that bad breath makes for a long night.

yeah, body odors are the first thing that came to mind...and i smoke, so i have little room to talk...

other than that really is hangers on and entourages and the flotsam and jetsom that hangs out and jokes, and laughs or talks on the phone in the control room, or eats off the food budget(session personnel only)....that shit kills me...

similarly, sessions that walk into the wrong rooms, ie; studio a clients cruise around and walk into studio c sessions...

AllAboutTone · 11th August 2008, 10:47 PM

I forgot one, most artist like a ruff draft to take home to listen to until their mix date comes up which is no big deal. So they want the draft in a hurry so they do not waste more $$$ and they are ready to go eat etc.... So i give them a real ruff mix and they know it, BUT when they return for the mix they start saying things like, uh i would like the bass louder, i like more mids in the guitar !!!! I say, damn it was a ruff mix like i told you, no where near in the ball park, all of our ears were fried. This has happen 100s of times. Then i have bands that say..... hey " MIX IT" we are leaving and will be back later, those are the ones that trust me and i normally do my best by myself or just one guy there...

Zionpro · 11th August 2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutTone

I forgot one, most artist like a ruff draft to take home to listen to until their mix date comes up which is no big deal. So they want the draft in a hurry so they do not waste more $$$ and they are ready to go eat etc.... So i give them a real ruff mix and they know it, BUT when they return for the mix they start saying things like, uh i would like the bass louder, i like more mids in the guitar !!!! I say, damn it was a ruff mix like i told you, no where near in the ball park, all of our ears were fried. This has happen 100s of times. Then i have bands that say..... hey " MIX IT" we are leaving and will be back later, those are the ones that trust me and i normally do my best by myself or just one guy there...

As a semipro, this is by far my biggest gripe...AFter a day of tracking, ears and perspective are gone. I tell them it is a VERY rough mix and stress the "very rough" part. Still they return with critiques on the mix...I get so annoyed reexplaining that it was only for the purposes of allowing them to listen to the performance...some people are ridiculous...

spigot · 12th August 2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Classic

Touching my computer monitors

Not cool!!

oh and having their hand in the way so you can't even see what their pointing at!! hate that!!!

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11th August 2008, 02:03 AM	#33
Ricey Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: São Paulo/NYC Posts: 710	- someone walking into the control room and immediately asking, "What are you doing?" __________________ http://www.myspace.com/victorrice http://ultrabland.com/site/bios/index.php?id=4 YMMV - Your Money May Vanish

11th August 2008, 07:53 AM	#44
SomeAudioGuy Gear interested Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: LA Posts: 13	I'll join you all on the bad studio/control room etiquette. It KILLS me when I record a VO or vocalist, and we get levels set for something really quiet, then in between takes the talent feels they need to talk at us like they're trying to scream through the booth's window. __________________ Hey! Whaddaya hear? http://someaudioguy.blogspot.com

11th August 2008, 09:07 AM	#46
BCains Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 292	1. Clients who bring "tag alongs" - people who are not involved in the project i.e wife & kids - in this situation it was the managers whole family! 2. Clients who don't bring all the gear required i.e pedals, guitars! i.e a band that forgot to pick up the bassists guitar, he than had to catch a bus back home to get it. 3. The usual "you can fix that in the mix" and the "you can copy and paste that" __________________ "The only thing I like more than the sound of my own voice is seeing you listening to me."

11th August 2008, 10:57 AM	#48
Jules Gearslutz.com admin Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 11,814	Bands that bring along their bitter and twisted live sound engineer that has amongst the many chips on their shoulder.. 1) resentment that they aren't sitting where you are, behind the console making a bands album / single / demo 2) resentment that they aren't going to be getting their hands on the studio gear that they jealously scan their eyes across - because they weren't hired as the the engineer producer.. The 'unannounced live person studio guest' event can be a real drag. Newbie bands that bring them along screw up the diplomacy and fail to warn studio staff that they are bringing someone 'extra 'with them. So it comes as a shock (and is regarded as a shabby display of no confidence from the band) Big unhappy mess. Until you have a quite word with the band and get them to not bring the live sound person with them for the rest of the session (suggest that its best to test out the live sound person's wannabe producer studio skills on their OWN session - some other time) In order to involve the live sound person - bands could sort out introductions prior to the sessions, meet the studio team at pre production, encourage phone calls between them before the session - all that could work out fine.... but to bring a 'tag along person' who thinks they are going to jump in cold and start directing the session.. ain't cool __________________ Jules "...there are some amazing deals to be had in this right now. it brings battleship mixing closer to the jilted generation" - reptil

11th August 2008, 01:43 AM	#31
pootkao Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 540	a) Vocalists who sing with their hands in their pockets. b) People talking while I'm editing/comping.

11th August 2008, 03:32 AM	#39
bitman Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Keystone, CO Posts: 649	I've repented of my bad attitude and will begin stocking bottled water. Now how to keep my dear wife out of the studio water. She has a real thing for it.

11th August 2008, 06:00 AM	#42
Jonboy79 Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 2,202	My two biggest pet peeves. Bands that bring like 5 friends over and none of them can keep their mouths shut, or they insist on putting their 2 cents into the process. The other are bands that insist on sitting in on the mixing session but then start barking out orders literally 30 seconds into the process. I've actually gotten to the point where, if a band shows up with a bunch of extra useless people I'll ask them nicely to take their friends back home and I tell every band that stays for the mixing session to not ask for anything specific until I ask them a specific question. Most bands seem to comprehend, although some just don't get it. It's not that I don't want the bands input into the process, I just hate hearing things like "hey can you make my vocals louder" or " can you turn the bass up" when I haven't even gotten the basic mix down yet, or have gotten to that part of the mix.

11th August 2008, 08:40 AM	#45
moroccog Gear interested Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15	In no particular order... 1-It bothers me when an artist starts dancing or bouncing around while recording. Usually when I point out that they shouldn't, they will insist that it inspires their performance. 2-I can't stand when a client is what I call an "effect-*****". They want "juice" on every track. Everything is more flanger, delay, chorus, reverb, etc. 3-And of course I can't stand the volume wars where every person on the track wants their part louder.

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otobianki74 Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 309	clients who take off their shoes... oto __________________ http://www.myspace.com/astronaut

11th August 2008, 07:55 PM	#52
illiummusic Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: burbank ca Posts: 240	The worst for me is the drinks on gear. Man I f*****g hate that. I always have signs up for that. Even in my rehearsal space but no one ever seems to pay attention. Sure enough I go to my rehearsal space after my drummer has rehearsed with another band he is in and low & behold there's a water ring on my amp! Make me want to punch someone in their damn head for being so disrespectful.

11th August 2008, 10:47 PM	#55
AllAboutTone 3 + infractions, membership under review with GS admin Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: US DEFCON 5 Posts: 3,514	I forgot one, most artist like a ruff draft to take home to listen to until their mix date comes up which is no big deal. So they want the draft in a hurry so they do not waste more $$$ and they are ready to go eat etc.... So i give them a real ruff mix and they know it, BUT when they return for the mix they start saying things like, uh i would like the bass louder, i like more mids in the guitar !!!! I say, damn it was a ruff mix like i told you, no where near in the ball park, all of our ears were fried. This has happen 100s of times. Then i have bands that say..... hey " MIX IT" we are leaving and will be back later, those are the ones that trust me and i normally do my best by myself or just one guy there... __________________ [B][SIZE="4"]Using 500 Series is like trading baseball cards[/SIZE][/B]. kfhkhdiddlydoojummpp [B][COLOR="Blue"]Buzzaudio[/COLOR][/B] kfhkh [B]Don't Fu*k with my Tone !!! or me either[/B].