Drum room

seb37000 · 31st January 2005

Which do you prefer, a live drum room or a dead drum room?
How about a mix of the two...

NathanEldred · 31st January 2005

Moderately live. If the reverb time is too long is sounds washy to my ears. Too dead and it takes the life and depth out of it.

Jules · 31st January 2005

The best IMHO is one where the close mic's seem dry as a bone, with little or no room sound on them (even when heavily compressed) yet mic's in the corner pick up a 'huge' distant sound.

I have heard this a few times, the best was in a barn.

Close mic's sounded like they were done in an Eagles style 70's dead room but when you pushed up the room mic's - it sounded like John Bonham down the bottome of a castle stairwell, picked up by a mic a few floors up.

Stanbridge farm studio, UK

drundall · 31st January 2005

I agree with Jules.
Also, if you need a tight dead sounds you can baffle off a live room, but it's harder to liven up a dead room.

aapee · 1st February 2005

Have you ever tried to make those dead space drums lively with convolution reverb or with EMT 140? How well you have managed?

Respect,

AaPee

juniorhifikit · 1st February 2005

Bruce Fairbairn (RIP) used to like to track drums in his booth, which was dead sounding, and open the sliding glass doors into the live room to control the "separate" room sound. He spoke about the same desire to have control and chaos on different channels (not his words).

Slider · 1st February 2005

Quote:

Originally posted by Jules
The best IMHO is one where the close mic's seem dry as a bone, with little or no room sound on them (even when heavily compressed) yet mic's in the corner pick up a 'huge' distant sound.

I have heard this a few times, the best was in a barn.

Close mic's sounded like they were done in an Eagles style 70's dead room but when you pushed up the room mic's - it sounded like John Bonham down the bottome of a castle stairwell, picked up by a mic a few floors up.

Stanbridge farm studio, UK

That's wat I like to do. Drums in the dead room facing out into the live space with room mics.

LittleDogAudio · 1st February 2005

Live or dead?

Totally depends on what that particular song needs.

That's what being a competent engineer is all about: discussing the sound of the song before you place a single mic. I never start tracking a song until the band and I have reverse-engineered the song and figured out the best way to track it.

This is not a huge effort by any means. It's just simple communication about how the sounds are going to jive together in the song.

Chris

31st January 2005	#1
seb37000 Gear addict Joined: Jan 2005 Location: france Posts: 443 Thread Starter	Drum room Which do you prefer, a live drum room or a dead drum room? How about a mix of the two...

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NathanEldred Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: West Coast Central Florida Posts: 7,242	Moderately live. If the reverb time is too long is sounds washy to my ears. Too dead and it takes the life and depth out of it. __________________ Nathan Eldred Visit Atlas Pro Audio

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Jules Gearslutz.com admin Joined: Apr 2002 Location: A Yank in London, UK Posts: 17,808 1 Review written	The best IMHO is one where the close mic's seem dry as a bone, with little or no room sound on them (even when heavily compressed) yet mic's in the corner pick up a 'huge' distant sound. I have heard this a few times, the best was in a barn. Close mic's sounded like they were done in an Eagles style 70's dead room but when you pushed up the room mic's - it sounded like John Bonham down the bottome of a castle stairwell, picked up by a mic a few floors up. Stanbridge farm studio, UK __________________ Jules Add your reviews to the new reviews area! Gearslutz on Facebook Follow my GS picks on Twitter

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drundall Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 885	I agree with Jules. Also, if you need a tight dead sounds you can baffle off a live room, but it's harder to liven up a dead room. __________________ "I know of several comparisons [right here on this board] where no one could tell the difference between a Martech pre-amp and a Behringer." - Fletcher Darian Rundall

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aapee Gear maniac Joined: Jan 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 188	Have you ever tried to make those dead space drums lively with convolution reverb or with EMT 140? How well you have managed? Respect, AaPee __________________ APart-Studio "The Sound meets the Art" ******************************

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juniorhifikit Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Paris/SanFrancisco Posts: 1,274	Bruce Fairbairn (RIP) used to like to track drums in his booth, which was dead sounding, and open the sliding glass doors into the live room to control the "separate" room sound. He spoke about the same desire to have control and chaos on different channels (not his words).

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LittleDogAudio Gear nut Joined: Nov 2004 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 109	Live or dead? Totally depends on what that particular song needs. That's what being a competent engineer is all about: discussing the sound of the song before you place a single mic. I never start tracking a song until the band and I have reverse-engineered the song and figured out the best way to track it. This is not a huge effort by any means. It's just simple communication about how the sounds are going to jive together in the song. Chris __________________ Little Dog Audio *Gear You'd Trade Your Wife For!* www.littledogaudio.com

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