Fake bonham right?

[TYY]

Forgive me if this has been posted here:



Bonham drums

No way these are real, right?

[not_so_new]

Very interesting....

Could be a fake for sure but if it is not John Bonham man whoever is playing has Bonham's drum style down and I mean DOWN.

If it is a fake then this guy is a monster (hope I don't get sued fuuck ) but I think these could just be the real deal.

These would have came from around the same later sessions. The recording is very cool so I would think it would have had to come from a bigger studio. Analog for sure and sounds like old tape because of some of the drop outs.

I heard that in the later sessions like In Through The Out Door they used closer micing techniques (consistent with what I hear on the album) and these sound more roomy than that. On the other hand I have heard that Bonham made all kinds of sounds with his mouth when he played and these tapes have that all over them??

I have NO way of knowing first hand but if I had to put money on it I would say these are the real deal. As a life long fan of the band I always dreamed of hearing the tracks individually, this is classic.

Any idea where these came from??

[everybody's x]

that would be a pretty elaborate hoax, with the headphone bleed, the tone and performance and even the count ins. if it is fake they did a stunning job

[RoundBadge]

That bear grunting sound is very trademark bonham..could be...

[max cooper]

The second one "Carouselambra" is def. from ITTOD, but who knows how long some of those songs were in the works. Could be older.

Whether or not they're the real deal, it sure is fun to listen to soloed drum tracks.

I'd say that if it's important to ya, better download 'em now. These things have a way of disappearing. Be nice to have the pre-MP3 disc, tho.

[henryrobinett]

I'm interested in his time inconsistencies on take 1. Kind of surprising. Maybe he was high or drunk. If it's not a hoax . . .

[not_so_new]

Originally posted by henryrobinett
I'm interested in his time inconsistencies on take 1. Kind of surprising. Maybe he was high or drunk. If it's not a hoax . . .

Well I think they played "live" in the studio so he could have been compensating for a high or drunk Jimmy Page....



Still way cool. I have to think this is the real deal. Still could be a hoax but my hunch is it is not (I am a born skeptic as well for what that is worth).

[biggator6]

there's a 6-CD set of studio outtakes, bootlegs, demos, etc that's floating around - I think I have a copy.

it may be on there... I'll take a look
"-)

[not_so_new]

Originally posted by biggator6
there's a 6-CD set of studio outtakes, bootlegs, demos, etc that's floating around - I think I have a copy.

it may be on there... I'll take a look
"-)

Really?? Where can I find that??

I have never been a bootleg guy because there are always so expensive and not worth the money most times but this was interesting. If there is bootleg with individual tracks i would love to get my hands on it....

[mitgong]

That's him.

I'm in heaven/hell. Tearing up. O.

[ajcamlet]

sure sounds like bonham to me....

[warhead]

It almost sounds like a gated verb!

That's Bonham man, track 22 is the tell all for me.

As a teen I was always trying to figure out the timing count between the rhythm parts in "Black Dog" until I finally closely listened to the song and heard what was going on (very quick stick hit before each re-entry to the rhythm). That song is a beautiful example of good live playing and gelling as a band, those guys really knew each other's style.

Bonham was a master.

War

[warhead]

Originally posted by henryrobinett
I'm interested in his time inconsistencies on take 1. Kind of surprising. Maybe he was high or drunk. If it's not a hoax . . .

In 2005 a producer would probably snap Bonham and Rudd to a grid to "fix" their "inconsistencies".

War

[Drumsound]

Originally posted by warhead
In 2005 a producer would probably snap Bonham and Rudd to a grid to "fix" their "inconsistencies".

War

And should be shot for it!

The hi-hat and snare sound very authentic to me.

I'm gonna download them all before the estate of Peter Grant hunts down the server and beats it to peices with a baseball bat! I'm a real Bonham freak.

[picksail]

Originally posted by warhead
It almost sounds like a gated verb!

That's what I initially thought then I listened a bit closer and realized that it was the room mic at about 20:1....squishy, squishy!!!

I heard these tracks several months ago and just couldn't believe they were somehow available.

[mitgong]

TRACK 22!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!

I've dreamed of this moment for years. Bonham was a ****ing LION!!

God bless you TYY.

[Drumsound]

Originally posted by warhead


That's Bonham man, track 22 is the tell all for me.

As a teen I was always trying to figure out the timing count between the rhythm parts in "Black Dog" until I finally closely listened to the song and heard what was going on (very quick stick hit before each re-entry to the rhythm). That song is a beautiful example of good live playing and gelling as a band, those guys really knew each other's style.

Bonham was a master.

War

Track 22 "Fool in the Rain." I did that tune on my senior recital in college. That's Bonzo for sure.

[chadly]

Fake or not, it's pretty cool! Awesome post!

[everybody's x]

anybody got acces to the actual waves?

[Sofa King]

Originally posted by biggator6
there's a 6-CD set of studio outtakes, bootlegs, demos, etc that's floating around - I think I have a copy.

it may be on there... I'll take a look
"-)

Ya, I got those a few years ago.
very cool stuff, like them working through several arrangements of "Stairway".
The last one ending with some one saying something to the effect " I think weve got something here"


best

Sean

[w2w]

These have been around for a while.Its the real deal.(whether you want to believe it or not).Anyone familiar with his sound can tell.Get a duplicate of his set.You wont sound like this.

[TYY]

Well, the fact that the sound is so consistent over tracks that weren't from the same sessions made me a bit skeptical.

Also it really fukking does sound like a gated reverb! Are they gating room mics squashed to shite? And how do they get that smashed sound without ruining the attack of the snare/toms and ending up with nothing but cymbal wash? Expert use of parallel compression/limiting?

I concur that fool in the rain is some wicked playing. No one could deny Bonzo's chops on drums after hearing that track. The guy is a machine...

[brendondp]

I have no idea of whether they're really John Bonham outtakes or not, but, whatever they are, speaking purely for myself, they sure make a drummer who's become a little jaded with hearing quanticized, looped, sampled, "time-alligned" drum tracks smile.

And sigh...

Thanks, TYY. I am now the proud (and illegal?) owner of some wonderful mp3.s burned to disc.

By the way, for those of you who may be new to drum tracking, this is what a drum kit - in a real acoustical space, played by someone who can play, with feel and groove, with overtones, sympathetic resonances, and bleed - sounds like. I love it.

Cheers,

bdp

[spacewars]

Originally posted by TYY
Forgive me if this has been posted here:



Bonham drums

No way these are real, right?

Yes they definitely are real.

[max cooper]

It almost sounds like a gated verb!

That was my first impression, but when I listened closer, I decided, like Picksail, that it's compression.

So how did this stuff get out? Anyone know?

[Ruphus]

At the end of take 22 the piano plays Guantanamera.

I suppose that´s the typical reaction when you have just played something with high concentration and right after the end jump away with any familiar tune.

Oh, and viva la Bohème err Bonham!!

Ruphus

PS: I find the noises that Bonham makes very interesting and sympathic. He breathes the music. ... Could be the magic behind his lively style.
On some of the outtakes I think to recognize how they were yet getting to what you find in their well known genial pieces.
Also on a couple of the clips I think you can hear Page´s siren in the background.

[ToddF]

Sounds real to me. I will have to look up what studio they recorded drums on In Through The Out Door. Nice room.

Todd F.

[Shan]

Originally posted by Sofa King
Ya, I got those a few years ago.
very cool stuff, like them working through several arrangements of "Stairway".
The last one ending with some one saying something to the effect " I think weve got something here"


best

Sean

Well, where can we buy this 6 CD set of outakes? Was it something that was released in stores or underground bootleg stuff?

Shane

[neve1073]

Awesome link!!!!!!

[Blast9]

What gives it away for me is the squeeky kick drum pedal.

That's Bonham for sure... Just go back and listen to "The Ocean"... Identical squeek... And the hats are pure Bonham... That soft refined HiFi sound is a trademark.

Personally, I think it has been enhanced with stereo reverb, but what the hell!

This must be late 70's ('79?)... track 14 - 16 are "All Of My Love" off In through the Out Door.

Awesome playing!